[01:49:04] PROBLEM - Blazegraph Port for wdqs-categories on wdqs1009 is CRITICAL: connect to address 127.0.0.1 and port 9990: Connection refused [01:49:14] PROBLEM - Blazegraph process -wdqs-categories- on wdqs1009 is CRITICAL: PROCS CRITICAL: 0 processes with UID = 499 (blazegraph), regex args ^java .* --port 9990 .* blazegraph-service-.*war [01:49:16] PROBLEM - Check systemd state on wdqs1009 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - degraded: The system is operational but one or more units failed. [01:59:56] RECOVERY - Blazegraph Port for wdqs-categories on wdqs1009 is OK: TCP OK - 0.000 second response time on 127.0.0.1 port 9990 [02:00:10] RECOVERY - Blazegraph process -wdqs-categories- on wdqs1009 is OK: PROCS OK: 1 process with UID = 499 (blazegraph), regex args ^java .* --port 9990 .* blazegraph-service-.*war [02:00:10] RECOVERY - Check systemd state on wdqs1009 is OK: OK - running: The system is fully operational [02:33:48] PROBLEM - WDQS HTTP Port on wdqs1009 is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error - 410 bytes in 0.001 second response time [02:39:54] RECOVERY - WDQS HTTP Port on wdqs1009 is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 448 bytes in 0.018 second response time [04:13:54] PROBLEM - Check systemd state on wdqs1007 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - degraded: The system is operational but one or more units failed. [04:14:00] PROBLEM - Blazegraph process -wdqs-categories- on wdqs1007 is CRITICAL: PROCS CRITICAL: 0 processes with UID = 499 (blazegraph), regex args ^java .* --port 9990 .* blazegraph-service-.*war [04:15:08] RECOVERY - Check systemd state on wdqs1007 is OK: OK - running: The system is fully operational [04:15:14] RECOVERY - Blazegraph process -wdqs-categories- on wdqs1007 is OK: PROCS OK: 1 process with UID = 499 (blazegraph), regex args ^java .* --port 9990 .* blazegraph-service-.*war [16:49:28] Hmm [16:49:29] http://tinyurl.com/y6ufm44g [16:50:10] Isn't it wrong to have a type of instrument linked as instance of musical instrument? [16:51:00] I mean, I'd expect to see that used only for, say, one specific Stradivarius violin, but not for "violin" [16:51:35] yes. i was indeed confused [16:52:29] nikki: opinion? :) [16:54:11] Seems wrong, yeah [16:54:36] I mean, there's so many in there that it might be intentional, but [16:55:05] All wrong }:) [16:55:10] Oh, but a lot are actual organs :) [16:55:12] So that's neat [16:55:19] Right [16:55:50] Something similar happens with computers [16:56:06] So I guess only the ones that are clearly a kind of instrument need to be changed. That's easier [16:56:17] (also wow, we have a lot of French organs) [17:57:31] PROBLEM - Check systemd state on wdqs1006 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - degraded: The system is operational but one or more units failed. [17:58:11] PROBLEM - Check systemd state on wdqs1010 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - degraded: The system is operational but one or more units failed. [18:00:03] PROBLEM - Check systemd state on wdqs1003 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - degraded: The system is operational but one or more units failed. [18:08:29] RECOVERY - Check systemd state on wdqs1006 is OK: OK - running: The system is fully operational [18:08:33] RECOVERY - Check systemd state on wdqs1003 is OK: OK - running: The system is fully operational [18:09:09] RECOVERY - Check systemd state on wdqs1010 is OK: OK - running: The system is fully operational [20:32:29] PROBLEM - Check systemd state on wdqs1010 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - degraded: The system is operational but one or more units failed. [20:37:25] PROBLEM - Check systemd state on wdqs1004 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - degraded: The system is operational but one or more units failed. [20:38:21] RECOVERY - Check systemd state on wdqs1010 is OK: OK - running: The system is fully operational [20:40:27] PROBLEM - Check systemd state on wdqs2005 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - degraded: The system is operational but one or more units failed. [20:41:13] reosarevok: yeah, instance of is ok if it's an actual instance [20:41:37] nikki: but not if it's, say, a model of guitar, right? [20:41:55] Looking at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5559370 for one [20:43:19] I made https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Nikki/Instruments/Individual_instruments a very long time ago, haven't really looked at it [20:44:24] Well there's a lot of organs and whatnot (French heritage stuff mostly, it seems) [20:44:31] And a lot of Stradivarius violins [20:44:41] But also "bagpipes" was set as an instance of instrument [20:47:33] for models, those should be subclasses too, although they could be an instance of "model of guitar" or something [20:47:46] like we have "car model" as well as "car" [20:50:47] RECOVERY - Check systemd state on wdqs1004 is OK: OK - running: The system is fully operational [20:52:37] RECOVERY - Check systemd state on wdqs2005 is OK: OK - running: The system is fully operational [21:04:34] hmm can someone explain "topic's main category" aka P910 to me? :D [21:06:33] like I'm looking at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q230262 which has https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9104866 whih is a wikidata item... [21:07:08] but some hover info says "wikimedia category page" so.. how is that different form commons category? [21:07:23] which is just above it and is https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Plucked%20string%20instruments [21:09:09] this (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9104866 ) also seems to have the same "commons category" as the same.. [21:09:13] what am i not getting here [21:09:15] nikki? [21:10:23] why is Q9104866 needed when https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q230262 can link directly to commons with commons category? [21:11:20] Q9104866 has lots of sitelinks [21:11:29] conversly https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Veenas has no wikidata item [21:11:40] so https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q959769 will not have "topic's main entry" [21:12:00] sitelinks in this case is wikipedia in diff languages? [21:12:10] or identifiers [21:12:26] nop sorry, i was looknig at a worng page [21:12:32] yes wikipedias in diff langs [21:12:37] yes [21:12:41] or other wikimedia projects [21:12:48] not necessarily wikipedia [21:12:52] like wikibooks [21:13:10] or wiktionary [21:13:19] yea well "wikkies" [21:13:21] :D [21:13:32] is that the reason? [21:13:55] should https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Veenas have a separate wikidata item? [21:14:37] typ things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritantri_vina does not have a wiki(pedia) category [21:14:48] should it? [21:15:41] the first one is linked to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q56063219 and it should probably be moved to Q959769 [21:15:58] aah! I get it, that (Q9104866) is the wikidata item for the *category* of plucked instrument. (Q230262) is the wikidata time for *plucked instruments* [21:16:05] and whether other projects want to create categories for things is up to them [21:16:54] first one? [21:17:33] category:veenas [21:17:44] commons? [21:18:01] ja visst, i see it [21:18:06] it actulaly has two english links [21:18:09] hmm..... [21:18:16] how to edit langs on commons :D [21:19:14] is it becasue https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q56063219 has "commons category" ? [21:19:23] I'll remove that anyway sicne it is erronous [21:20:05] no idea [21:21:04] actually.. something I wanted to know. especially for instruments: when it comes to statements: subclasses: what to pick, the coseste thing or a general thing? like d owe add both "zither and plucked string instrument" and also *string instrument from country* and also "instruments invented by so and such" [21:21:27] or only "box zither" [21:21:37] and if no such exist. is it ok to make it [21:22:18] ok maybe a better example: all the veenas, are subclass of veena, but osme are lutes and some are zither [21:22:39] do I add "subclass of veena" and "subclass of lute" if both are apliable? [21:22:41] is that ok? [21:23:55] currently veena is a subclass of bar zither, so that probably needs changing [21:24:14] oh yes [21:24:20] veen itself ismore a generic thing [21:24:35] it should be.. let's see subclass of indian sintruments and subclass of plucked string i say [21:24:44] and it's ok to have more than one subclass, if it's a subclass of both (and one subclass isn't already a subclass of the other) [21:24:58] aha so multible subclasses but no nesting [21:24:58] I wouldn't add subclasses which just duplicate other statements though [21:25:06] right [21:25:43] like I would add a statement saying who invented it, rather than adding it as a subclass of "instruments invented by whoever" [21:25:59] yes true that was a bad example i made up [21:26:45] I've seen subclasses like "instruments from [country] or [country]/i/an [type] instruments though [21:27:28] but it seems rather random [21:27:44] I think those items are usually there because there's a wikipedia page [21:27:44] there is no "indian string instruments" [21:27:49] or "indian plucked string instruments" [21:27:53] yes [21:28:03] should those not be used [21:28:18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Indian_musical_instruments [21:28:19] hm [21:29:01] ok so there is a "list of indian musicla instruments" item but that seems like a rather bad "subclass of" thing [23:31:49] PROBLEM - Check systemd state on wdqs2004 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - degraded: The system is operational but one or more units failed. [23:32:23] PROBLEM - High lag on wdqs2004 is CRITICAL: 1.43e+04 ge 3600 https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-query-service?orgId=1&panelId=8&fullscreen [23:33:05] RECOVERY - Check systemd state on wdqs2004 is OK: OK - running: The system is fully operational [23:35:28] ACKNOWLEDGEMENT - High lag on wdqs2004 is CRITICAL: 1.442e+04 ge 3600 Stas Malychev Reloading data, will catch up soon https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-query-service?orgId=1&panelId=8&fullscreen [23:44:35] PROBLEM - High lag on wdqs2005 is CRITICAL: 1.441e+04 ge 3600 https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-query-service?orgId=1&panelId=8&fullscreen