[03:27:17] !admin https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dateroomy lta (see Angela Criss) [03:27:18] Please visit https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:AN [08:48:45] Hi there! [08:49:34] What's the proper method of changing author string into author property of a scientific article ? [09:34:11] OK Never mind. See you later [10:59:00] * nikki sighs at yet more mass-adding of bad descriptions [12:12:16] !admin https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q45185239 [12:12:17] Please visit https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:AN [12:12:35] Any admin around? [14:34:44] Hi, any SPARQL expert here? [14:37:10] I need to create query that repurns all Qnnnn _elements_ that have specified element as a value for _any_ property. [14:38:11] something like https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fs%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%3Fs%20%3Fp%20wd%3AQ36%20.%0A%3Fs%20wdt%3AP31%20%3Fx%20.%0A%7D but do not require that the element has P31 property [14:39:10] https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fs%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%3Fs%20%3Fp%20wd%3AQ36%20.%0A%7D is to wide as it returns also data not being wikidata Qnnn elements [14:39:28] any hints? [14:43:16] ankry: that would be something like this: https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fentity%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fentity%20%3Fwdt%20wd%3AQ36.%0A%20%20%3Fproperty%20wikibase%3AdirectClaim%20%3Fwdt.%0A%7D [14:43:34] note that this may include other entity types as well, not just items (e. g. properties, lexemes) [14:43:44] filtering for items is unfortunately not simple :/ [14:46:04] Lucas_WMDE: thanks, that is what I was looking for [15:01:01] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @Thiemo_WMDE & @chiborg - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [15:50:58] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @Thiemo_WMDE & @chiborg - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [17:08:10] Anyone know the equivalent P number for “friend of” [17:08:39] Also, since I’m still pretty new to the Wikidata project, how do you search Properties on wikidata.org? [17:08:53] you search for “p:” https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=p%3Afriend [17:09:19] (the search box in the upper right corner works differently, but you can press Enter there and it should take you to the full search page) [17:19:25] Oh thanks, Lucas_WMDE! [17:21:01] Am I right in that there currently isn’t a “friend of” or “aquiantence of” Property? I see “student of” https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1066, but I’m wondering whether anyone within the Wikidata community has tried to building out that graph. [17:22:32] as far as I can tell there’s no “friend of”, no [17:29:50] it seems like something that would be difficult to define [17:30:13] has anyone thought much about an anti vandal bot for wikidata? [17:30:15] ;) [17:30:18] Interesting… I know the rel vocab (http://vocab.org/relationship/) has attempted to tackle this and I’ve seen projects like linkedjazz.org use it to model relationships within the jazz community [17:31:03] addshore: what sort of bot do you have in mind? one that reverts edits? [17:31:10] yup [17:31:21] didn't Amir1 have something like that? [17:32:57] nikki: I have some bots to revert, what do you want to revert? [17:33:57] nothing in particular :) addshore was just asking whether anyone had thought about anti-vandal bots [17:43:41] nikki: when it comes to definitions, FOAF has been running with Knows for a long time: http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_knows [17:44:27] I think there would be great value in modelling the social networks of historical/contemporary people within Wikidata [17:45:02] for context, see: https://twitter.com/sanseveria/status/1072844186846748672 [17:45:18] That thread got me thinking 🤷‍♂️ [17:47:26] that sounds a bit better defined, at least [17:51:23] I’m just imagining this statement on a “friend of” property… “expected completeness: lol” [17:52:01] haha [18:04:49] too true! [18:05:10] But the same could be said of all Wikimedia projects 😜 [18:09:18] there are some properties which are complete [18:10:13] IDs generally, you can't just invent new IDs once you've added all the existing ones :P [18:12:11] which IDs? [18:21:05] haha... the example I know of (because I added them all) appears to have been updated since I added them and has a few new ids I need to go add :P [18:21:49] oh no :D [18:22:30] well… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-world_assumption [18:23:25] to be fair, it was "expected completeness: is complete, but new values may exist in the future" [18:23:35] but I didn't expect them to update it right after I finished [18:24:12] todrobbins: https://query.wikidata.org/embed.html#SELECT%20%3Fproperty%20%3FpropertyLabel%20%3FexpectedCompletenessLabel%20%3FpropertyType%20WHERE%20{%0A%20%20VALUES%20%3FexpectedCompleteness%20{%20wd%3AQ21874050%20wd%3AQ47169297%20}%0A%20%20%3Fproperty%20a%20wikibase%3AProperty%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wikibase%3ApropertyType%20%3FpropertyType%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wdt%3AP2429%20%3FexpectedCompletene [18:24:14] ss.%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20{%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22[AUTO_LANGUAGE]%2Cen%22.%20}%0A}%0AORDER%20BY%20%3FexpectedCompletenessLabel [18:24:44] hah, I like that “property proposal discussion” has “is complete”, and not “…but new values may exist in the future” [18:24:53] does that mean we’ll never create new properties? :D [18:25:00] LOL [18:25:11] Thank you for the vivacious discussion! [18:25:23] (also, did someone really go back and add the link to all the properties discussed before the introduction of that property?) [18:25:56] the links were in a template on the talk page originally [18:25:58] and migrated by bot [18:26:04] okay, nice [18:26:16] very early properties even have “no value” instead of just no statement [19:12:40] nikki: Mine used to use ORES but I had to stop it due to high false positive ratio [19:13:00] ah :/ [19:48:20] Amir1: labeling also takes some time it seems. I could do some more, but don't want it to end up something memorizing my bias. [21:20:41] sjoerddebruin: it would be great if we can finish the campaign and load it up into ores, because it's a all or none situation. See stats https://labels.wmflabs.org/stats/wikidatawiki/