[12:33:22] <nikki>	 Lucas_WMDE: do you have any idea how to make a working query which searches for items with one property which are missing another property, where both properties are used a lot?
[12:34:11] <Lucas_WMDE>	 nothing right now, but can you ping me again in ~30 minutes? am a bit busy at the moment
[12:34:46] <nikki>	 https://tinyurl.com/y8plm6zn is the query I have right now, I've tried minus, filter not exists and optional/!bound, I've tried turning the optimiser off, and I'm coming to the conclusion that the query service just can't do it
[12:34:47] <nikki>	 sure
[12:35:14] <nikki>	 (well, it can do *that* query, because I limited it to 250, but that doesn't help me find all of the results)
[12:38:10] <nikki>	 I also tried querying for constraint violations, but that was completely useless since it doesn't know about most of them
[12:57:47] <nikki>	 is anyone around who's familiar with the tours? a couple of people have said on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Talk:Q16943273 that they're not working
[12:58:20] <nikki>	 I see a popup when I try, so maybe it's specific to certain browsers
[13:19:04] <Lucas_WMDE>	 nikki: no ideas for the query, sorry :/
[13:19:16] <Lucas_WMDE>	 and the tour is working for me (Firefox on Ubuntu)
[13:19:26] <nikki>	 ah :/
[13:28:41] <Platonides>	 it shows for me, too
[13:31:17] <Nemo_bis>	 nikki: what's wrong with a simpler structure? http://tinyurl.com/ydhw2hmk
[13:31:55] <nikki>	 that doesn't exclude items with P17 <novalue>
[13:35:15] <nikki>	 (and still fails if you try to find all of the results)
[14:42:27] <Lucas_WMDE>	 tour also working here in Chromium
[16:16:47] <reosarevok>	 Oooh. This would be neat to have in Estonian.
[16:16:50] <reosarevok>	 Tours that is
[16:16:59] <reosarevok>	 Maybe I can make someone translate it :D
[18:22:21] <addshore>	 the new live recent changes feed is actually pretty nice to monitor wikidata vandalism from
[18:22:29] <addshore>	 with ores filters
[18:22:33] <addshore>	 woo
[18:22:34] * addshore runs away
[18:23:53] <Lucas_WMDE>	 \o/
[19:24:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 addshore: maybe we can create some proper cvn channel on iRC now?
[19:27:56] <addshore>	 whats the best tool or gadget or whatever for warning users now?
[19:28:02] <addshore>	 i gave huggle a go, but it seemed to die on me
[19:28:11] <addshore>	 sjoerddebruin: could be worth it
[19:28:40] <sjoerddebruin>	 I use User:Bene*/userwarn.js, but that one kinda sucks as well.
[19:29:10] <addshore>	 yup, thats what i have too apparently
[19:29:26] <sjoerddebruin>	 Too much whitespace added! :P
[19:29:50] <addshore>	 we need some tool or something that just collects all of the highly suspect revs and lets use review them before they fall of the end of live RC
[19:31:14] <addshore>	 and then remove things from that list if they are patrolled, or revetered / undone
[19:31:42] <addshore>	 would be cool to record how many times people click on diffs in RC, and then you can exclude diffs that have been checked lots too
[19:31:45] <addshore>	 *continues dreaming*
[19:56:47] <addshore>	 sjoerddebruin: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q59386608 is totally spammy ?
[19:56:59] <sjoerddebruin>	 yes