[11:20:50] <Freenoodle>	 Hi, can anyone tell me, can the Wikidata software, not the data, also be set up on one's own LAMP server, does it make sense at all to do so? I am thinking about what would be a good platform for a database of human rights related cases, how to ensure that it remains reusable, extensible and maximally language-neutral. I wonder if Wikidata would be something to look into.
[11:22:49] <Lucas_WMDE>	 that’s absolutely possible, yes (the software is called Wikibase)
[11:23:34] <Lucas_WMDE>	 there’s some information at http://wikiba.se and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase
[11:25:11] <Freenoodle>	 Lucas_WMDE, thanks! Would you say it makes sense? Are there use case documented somewere? 
[11:26:08] <Lucas_WMDE>	 yes, there are some existing use-cases
[11:26:12] <Lucas_WMDE>	 I just don’t know where they are
[11:26:41] <Lucas_WMDE>	 AFAIK Jens Ohlig would be the best person to talk to about this, but he doesn’t seem to be online right now
[11:28:26] <Freenoodle>	 Lucas_WMDE, thanks, I tried to call the WMDE office, but the number in the contacts seems to be out of service.
[11:31:26] <Freenoodle>	 Lucas_WMDE, sent him a friends request on Facebook...
[11:55:12] <OnkelTem>	 Hi folks
[11:55:17] <OnkelTem>	 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52497634/how-to-filter-objects-by-property-on-wikidata-using-sparql
[11:55:25] <OnkelTem>	 I've just asked this question
[11:55:40] <OnkelTem>	 Couldn't find soluction for 2 hours
[11:55:45] <OnkelTem>	 solution*
[11:56:17] <OnkelTem>	 What was really odd is that here I found nothing too: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/queries/examples#Most_beautiful_villages_of_France
[11:56:28] <OnkelTem>	 pp[s
[11:56:43] <OnkelTem>	 oops I meant this: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/queries/examples
[12:09:33] <nikki>	 OnkelTem: change "Canada" to "Canada"@en
[12:10:21] <nikki>	 P1448 is a monolingual text property (where the value consists of a text string and a language) and those are always language-tagged strings in sparql
[12:12:31] <nikki>	 it's also possible to do ?country wdt:P1448 ?official_name filter (str(?official_name) = "Canada" if you don't know the language, but that is slower
[12:14:24] <OnkelTem>	 I see...
[12:14:35] <OnkelTem>	 Incredible
[13:49:23] <OnkelTem>	 nikki: if you're still here... Why does it return two rows:
[13:49:25] <OnkelTem>	 https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fcountry%20%3Fofficial_name%20WHERE%20%7B%0ASERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%20%20%3Fcountry%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ6256.%0A%20%20%3Fcountry%20wdt%3AP1448%20%3Fofficial_name.%0A%20%20%3Fcountry%20wdt%3AP1448%20%22Canada%22%40en.%0A%7D%0ALIMIT%20100 ?
[13:49:31] <OnkelTem>	 Oh sorry. I should have used some shortener
[13:49:45] <OnkelTem>	 https://goo.gl/DoWHm8
[13:57:14] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 OnkelTem: I can't tell you *exactly* why, but it's somehow because you have two lines starting with `?country wdt:P1448`
[13:57:41] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 OnkelTem: instead of ?country wdt:P1448 "Canada"@en, try VALUES( ?official_name ) { ( "Canada"@en ) }.
[13:58:18] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 OnkelTem: that provides a (singleton) set of values to use for ?official_name
[14:00:14] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 to get multiple countries, try VALUES( ?official_name ) { ( "Canada"@en ) ( "Stato italiano"@it ) }.
[14:00:19] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 etc
[14:01:25] <nikki>	 you can use less punctuation too: values ?official_name { "Canada"@en "Stato italiano"@it }
[14:02:14] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 ah, much nicer. i'm still learning sparql myself. 
[14:02:52] <nikki>	 it seems like any other language, no matter how good you get, there's always more to learn :D
[14:03:52] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 and there's pitfalls that bite you even after years... yea
[14:12:49] <OnkelTem>	 Great! Thanks folks
[14:13:13] <OnkelTem>	 I'm so excited to discover this wikidata. Didn't know about it before
[15:56:40] <Auregann_WMDE>	 IRC office hour is taking place in 6 minutes on wikimedia-office :)
[15:57:23] <Lucas_WMDE>	 \o/
[15:57:27] <Lucas_WMDE>	 #wikimedia-office
[15:57:32] <Lucas_WMDE>	 oops, forgot the /join :D
[16:30:26] <Kommerz>	 hello there! are there some wikidata admins?
[16:31:20] <Stryn>	 yes
[16:31:39] <Kommerz>	 Hi! Thank you for answering me!
[16:31:44] <Stryn>	 yw
[16:33:12] <Kommerz>	 I would like to ask something in regard deleting items: I have created some items for testing, but i would like to upload many more with the quickstatements tool. And some of them (like 10 items) would be double if i do so.
[16:33:45] <Kommerz>	 I thought it would be better to delete the old ones
[16:33:45] <Stryn>	 you should not create items for testing, there is test wikidata for that purpose
[16:34:06] <Kommerz>	 It was some time ago
[16:51:13] <Kommerz>	 Ok, so I will update them by hand. They are not badly created (not rubish just for "testing"), I just created them some time ago. "testing" was just said too fast. By!
[17:09:38] <aharoni>	 Hi Lucas_WMDE ,  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/462153/ can probably be merged :)
[17:10:11] <Lucas_WMDE>	 ok :)
[17:13:12] <aharoni>	 Lucas_WMDE: thanks :)
[17:40:48] <sjoerddebruin>	 woo-hoo! :P
[17:54:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 hoo: when are we getting fresh suggestions again?
[17:56:22] <hoo>	 Hopefully later this week
[17:56:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 Great
[18:09:24] <aharoni>	 mmm... why can't https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/462153/ be merged?
[18:15:27] <hoo>	 no idea… let's try again…
[19:27:55] <OnkelTem>	 Folks, where can I get a clear reference of functions that I can use in SPARQL queries?
[19:28:17] <OnkelTem>	 I mean some simple reference
[19:32:53] <aharoni>	 OnkelTem: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Ijon/Queries is a great guide for SPARQL beginners
[19:35:42] <OnkelTem>	 aharoni: thank you!
[19:36:16] <OnkelTem>	 aharoni: I cannot figure out how to limit results for a give language. I thought I already did with bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en"
[19:36:27] <OnkelTem>	 oh, sorry, the question was for all
[19:39:00] <OnkelTem>	 For example, if I need to get the link to a country Wikipedia page, I do: http://tinyurl.com/yb9wf49r
[19:39:53] <nikki>	 you can select a particular wiki using ?sitelink schema:isPartOf <https://en.wikipedia.org/> .
[19:40:01] <nikki>	 (for enwiki, change the url for others)
[19:41:48] <nikki>	 and you probably want ?sitelink schema:about ?country . rather than ?sitelink schema:about wd:Q52 .
[19:45:53] <OnkelTem>	 nikki: yes thank you :)
[20:02:58] <OnkelTem>	 Guys, how to get all properties of an object? For example, this is a page for Nothern Ireland: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q26
[20:03:10] <OnkelTem>	 I would like to see all the properties that I can query
[20:03:26] <OnkelTem>	 But there is no even "official name"
[20:24:51] <Reedy>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListProperties
[20:26:41] <OnkelTem>	 Reedy: so if I see a page I need to determine its type first? Say this one is of which type: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q26 ?
[20:27:05] <Reedy>	 It's type?
[20:27:37] <OnkelTem>	 Reedy: well you linked this https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListProperties And I asked how can I get a list of properties of country? Of the country
[20:27:57] <OnkelTem>	 So I thought that if the country is an entity of some type then... well, I can get all the properties or fields and that entity
[20:28:12] <OnkelTem>	 of that entity*
[20:31:31] <Reedy>	 That's a list of all properties that you can potentially query for any and all items
[20:31:43] <Reedy>	 "instance of" would presuambly be the type
[21:09:09] <yurik>	 hi, several users of OSM Wiki has complained after installing Wikibase that the autocomplete searchbox now only shows wikibase items, not the titles of the regular pages.  Is that a setting somewhere?
[21:44:44] <nikki>	 yurik: you might need to ask again during european daytime, I don't think anyone's around right now :/
[21:45:02] <yurik>	 thx nikki