[13:06:13] <yurik_>	 DanielK_WMDE_, if my patch is a noop, and it consolidates item ID parsing and generation, could you +2 it as an interim step to migrating the database structure?  It would solve our problem, without changing anything for Wikidata, and making it simpler to migrate db later. I'm not sure of Thiemo's IRC nick
[13:16:26] <yurik_>	 cc: Lydia_WMDE https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/455480/
[13:31:58] <Chrissymad>	 question: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q56257588 it seems like a waste to send that to rfd, is there another option for stuff that outright doesn't belong?
[13:32:24] <sjoerddebruin>	 *deleted*
[13:32:31] <Chrissymad>	 lol
[13:32:36] <Chrissymad>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q56257233
[13:32:45] <Chrissymad>	 maybe wikidata should go the way of actrial too lol
[13:33:11] <Chrissymad>	 though wikidata is agreat way to catch xwiki socks 
[13:34:35] <Chrissymad>	 is the n policy on wikidata basically if it doesn't exist in a project or isn't likely to = not notable?
[13:34:42] <Chrissymad>	 i mean obviously these are cases of self promo-ing spas 
[13:35:38] <sjoerddebruin>	 [[Wikidata:Notability]]
[13:35:39] <AsimovBot>	 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability
[13:37:25] <Chrissymad>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/HanburyBrown so thats an interesting account
[13:37:39] <sjoerddebruin>	 oh dear
[13:37:44] <Chrissymad>	 so far as i can tell none of those creations are on any project
[13:37:48] <Chrissymad>	 seems a way to force it?
[13:37:58] <Chrissymad>	 (i'm just learning wd lately)
[13:39:09] <Chrissymad>	 interesting
[13:39:16] <Chrissymad>	 they never edited en but all the companies they listed are together in one article
[13:42:05] <Chrissymad>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q56254022 spam
[13:42:22] <sjoerddebruin>	 ;)
[13:43:21] <Chrissymad>	 i'm just gonna make a big userpage of all the speedy-able crap
[13:43:27] <Chrissymad>	 and then ask for it so its not one by one lol
[13:44:04] <sjoerddebruin>	 Or just request rights at some point...
[13:45:25] <Chrissymad>	 "hi yes i'd like sysop to just delete stupid crap" ~~~~ :P 
[13:45:49] <Chrissymad>	 honestly probably one of the better reasons on any project lol
[13:48:23] <Chrissymad>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q56253933 for misspellings, do you delete or is there a way to like merge it with the correct one?
[13:53:34] <Chrissymad>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:EduardoGKBot looks like ya got a new bot 
[14:37:08] <yurik_>	 DanielK_WMDE_, i already abandoned that patch in favor of another approach
[14:40:42] <yurik_>	 Aleksey_WMDE, thanks for your comment. If possible, we can discuss the approach here
[14:42:26] <Aleksey_WMDE>	 yurik_: I have no clue for now. And as you can see, no everyone is OK with the ticket itself.
[14:43:44] <yurik_>	 Aleksey_WMDE, sure, but hopefully we can iron out the concerns. Hopefully my new patch is more palatable because it does not introduce any new functionality - it simply consolidates internal code, making it possible for us to work with the existing api
[14:44:17] <yurik_>	 Do you know if Thiemo is on IRC?
[14:46:23] <Aleksey_WMDE>	 yurik_: I have another things on my plate now, so cannot spend much time on it and it needs quiet some attention because it "plays" with something what was considered final for a long time.
[14:46:34] <Aleksey_WMDE>	 Seems like Thiemo is not here.
[14:51:02] <yurik_>	 @Aleksey_WMDE, sure, let me know if you have any questions with the patch.  BTW, note that the Phab ticket is slightly different from the patch.   Ticket is about creating new functionality, whereas the 2nd patch simply refactors internals a bit to make it possible to customize using hooks
[14:53:22] <Aleksey_WMDE>	 yurik_: No promises, but I'll try to have a look once I have free time
[14:53:31] <yurik_>	 thx!
[15:06:45] <Chrissymad>	 sjoerddebruin: lol https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q56221341 "user of Wikipedia"