[07:41:41] <pintoch>	 oh no
[07:41:49] <pintoch>	 ok we really need to do something about this then
[07:42:13] <pintoch>	 I'll see if I can file a bot request to cleanup the most widespread ones
[10:29:37] <nikki>	 pintoch: there are millions, it's gonna take a while :/
[10:36:14] <nikki>	 I think the whole thing is being done back to front, if we think the property should be restricted, we should fix the data first
[10:37:26] <nikki>	 I would normally remove constraints which have too many violations, deliberately *adding* them is absurd
[10:37:40] <pintoch>	 nikki: then just remove the constraint…
[10:38:30] <pintoch>	 I don't think it was absurd to remove it given that it was already widely agreed that this property should be only used that way
[10:38:34] <nikki>	 I'm tempted to. I left a comment a couple of days ago on the talk page first
[10:38:53] <nikki>	 was it? we've been approving bots to add it ever since it was created, right up to last month
[10:39:38] <pintoch>	 I think I "learned" it at some point from ArthurPSmith
[10:40:05] <pintoch>	 but I did use it myself for non-wikimedia sources
[10:43:59] <pintoch>	 done
[10:44:02] <nikki>	 I also wasn't aware that it was widely agreed not to use it for non-wikimedia sources, I only knew that stated in was preferred over imported from and found it annoyingly inconsistent that we allow both
[10:44:15] <nikki>	 (so I do agree with the overall goal, just not the way it's being done)
[10:46:55] <nikki>	 oh, you mean you removed the constraint, thanks!
[10:47:12] <nikki>	 wasn't sure whether you meant you created a bot request
[10:48:18] <nikki>	 btw, can openrefine add qualifiers to existing statements?
[10:56:19] <pintoch>	 no, but you can use it to generate QuickStatements instructions that will do that: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tools/OpenRefine/Editing/Uploading#Merging%20strategy%20for%20statements
[10:57:47] <nikki>	 huh, quickstatements can add qualifiers to existing statements? I knew it could add references but assumed it would make a new statement for qualifiers
[11:05:55] <pintoch>	 yes it can
[11:07:05] <nikki>	 I clearly should have just tried it XD
[12:37:48] <abian>	 Does anyone know how many source lines of code (SLOC) MediaWiki and Wikibase have?
[12:42:15] <Reedy>	 abian: Lots
[12:42:47] <Reedy>	 Wikibase gets more complex when you start including the many dependancies and libraries
[12:43:40] <abian>	 xD
[12:44:06] <abian>	 And the minimum necessary to work? Do we have an estimation? A range?
[13:25:46] <Nudin_WMDE>	 Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 90 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @@Pablo_WMDE & @CFisch_WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
[14:38:20] * nikki wonders what on earth happened with the dispatch lag
[14:53:14] <yannf>	 there is an issue with pings
[14:53:18] <yannf>	 on WD
[14:53:28] <yannf>	 I pinged 3 projects on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/copyright_status
[14:53:44] <yannf>	 and nobody received them
[14:54:01] <yannf>	 Hsarrazin did it again, same
[15:00:32] <nikki>	 I seem to recall something about a limit of 50, maybe that's why
[15:01:10] <nikki>	 ah, yes https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Novel_or_book
[16:56:10] <Wirjadisastra>	 T
[16:57:00] <Wirjadisastra>	 I just translated the Wikidata interface to Javanese, but when I clicked the Mainpage menu on the left ('Tepas' in Javanese), the page shows an empty page. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Tepas
[16:57:22] <Wirjadisastra>	 Can somebody help please?
[16:58:22] <abian>	 Hi, Wirjadisastra
[16:58:26] <abian>	 Do you mean this? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page?uselang=jv
[16:58:30] <nikki>	 where should it point ?
[17:00:25] <Wirjadisastra>	 Hi Abian, yes. The page should show https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page?uselang=jv, but if you see the menu on the left, the "Tepas" (mainpage) shows an empty page)
[17:00:38] <abian>	 Wirjadisastra: I think you just shouldn't translate the string "Wikidata:Main Page"
[17:02:49] <nikki>	 does it work now?
[17:03:52] <Wirjadisastra>	 Thank you. It works now. Could you show me where the problem is? I'd like to know
[17:04:09] <nikki>	 I had to create https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mainpage/jv
[17:04:59] <nikki>	 wikidata's main page isn't in the main namespace, so the default doesn't work for any language :(
[17:05:22] <Wirjadisastra>	 Ah! Thank you so much Nikki!
[17:05:29] <nikki>	 no problem :)
[17:07:12] <abian>	 :D
[20:01:19] <halfak>	 o/ raz_WMDE 
[20:01:32] <halfak>	 Just saw you moved out meeting right as I was about to join it ^_^
[20:04:10] <raz_WMDE>	 Oh sorry
[20:04:36] <raz_WMDE>	 I messed up! I'm stuck on a train back home
[20:04:50] <raz_WMDE>	 Mismanaged my time
[20:05:31] <raz_WMDE>	 @halfak: ^^^
[20:06:44] <halfak>	 I see.  Looks like the new time doesn't work for me. 
[20:07:07] <halfak>	 I just shared my calendar so you can try to find a better slot :) 
[20:07:39] <raz_WMDE>	 Ok will do
[20:07:43] <raz_WMDE>	 Thanks and sorry again
[20:08:40] <halfak>	 no worries!