[07:04:14] <pintoch>	 is there a way to disable URL escaping in formatter URLs? We have a problem with this at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P5098
[07:04:28] <pintoch>	 (maybe it should have been created as URL datatype…)
[10:04:34] <icinga-wm>	 PROBLEM - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1969 bytes in 0.094 second response time
[10:06:05] <hoo>	 hm :/
[10:06:14] <hoo>	 Not an atypically high number of edits right
[10:06:15] <hoo>	 now
[10:08:32] <hoo>	 (it is high, but not this high)
[10:09:34] <icinga-wm>	 RECOVERY - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1970 bytes in 0.087 second response time
[10:11:56] <abian>	 Perhaps related to the attacks, which are slowing down the servers? https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/authentication-metrics
[10:21:54] <icinga-wm>	 PROBLEM - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1970 bytes in 0.126 second response time
[10:26:54] <icinga-wm>	 RECOVERY - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1947 bytes in 0.114 second response time
[10:39:15] <icinga-wm>	 PROBLEM - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1962 bytes in 0.107 second response time
[10:54:34] <icinga-wm>	 RECOVERY - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1970 bytes in 0.115 second response time
[13:33:23] <icinga-wm>	 PROBLEM - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1963 bytes in 0.083 second response time
[13:33:46] <hoo|away>	  /nick hoo
[13:38:24] <icinga-wm>	 RECOVERY - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1956 bytes in 0.107 second response time
[14:42:41] <sjoerddebruin>	 Amir1: sorry for bothering, any suggester update... update?
[15:13:00] <Amir1>	 sjoerddebruin: hey, unfortunately not. We are working to completely dismantle the update, it's a very bad practice 
[15:13:23] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hmmm ok, so no update in the meanwhile?
[15:14:04] <Amir1>	 not for a while, shifting our focus to build something feasible 
[15:21:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 I was so curious hehe
[16:05:50] <Ash_Crow>	 !seen Auregann
[20:41:43] <abian>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1328199, an item for the showcase xD
[20:42:53] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh yeah?
[20:43:05] <sjoerddebruin>	 the constraint violations are quite intene
[20:43:08] <sjoerddebruin>	 intense*
[20:43:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 (excuse me, bottle of wine)
[20:43:23] <abian>	 Nah, I was joking :)
[20:44:55] <abian>	 (My English is poor with water too)
[20:45:06] <sjoerddebruin>	 :')
[20:47:11] <bitbit>	 Hey, this is cool. I didn't know of wikidata until now
[20:48:49] <abian>	 Ouch, sorry for the improper welcome, bitbit :)
[20:49:23] <abian>	 Let's fix this...
[20:49:28] <abian>	 Welcome, bitbit! :)
[20:49:38] * sjoerddebruin shoots some confetti cannon.
[20:49:46] <abian>	 \o/
[20:50:01] <sjoerddebruin>	 Thank god I haven't have to clean this place up...
[20:50:05] <sjoerddebruin>	 Or do i?
[20:50:54] <abian>	 Let the bots do it 😎
[20:53:07] <abian>	 Where did you read about Wikidata, bitbit?
[20:58:34] <bitbit>	 \o/ glad to be here
[20:59:00] <bitbit>	 abian: I just searched for /list *data* and stumbled onto this channel
[20:59:25] <bitbit>	 was looking for like a data science channel
[21:03:16] <abian>	 Great :)
[21:03:28] <bitbit>	 I've been a long time fan of wikimedia tho ofc
[21:04:02] <abian>	 This isn't a data science channel... but the channel about the largest, free, collaborative knowledge base in the Web :)
[21:04:32] <bitbit>	 yes. It's really cool. I can certainly use such a thing /for/ data science
[21:04:32] <abian>	 So a good candidate to analyze data
[21:04:39] <abian>	 Yeah :)
[21:06:11] <bitbit>	 are there any handy tools that let you query in natural language build around this? I see there's a sql-like query language, but wondering about something that lets you explore more easily... like a VR or something in 3D?
[21:06:42] <bitbit>	 that build on this*
[21:08:38] <abian>	 Not sure if you mean something like https://causegraph.github.io/causalaxies/#/galaxy/wikidata?l=1
[21:09:55] <abian>	 Perhaps https://askplatyp.us/ concerning the "natural language build" point, but it should be improved
[21:10:55] <bitbit>	 holy shit :) nice galaxy there
[21:11:31] <abian>	 Yes, it is :)
[21:11:40] <abian>	 Entities are, more or less, sorted by time
[21:12:08] <bitbit>	 look at the "Catholic Church" -- it's like a gaint death star
[21:12:18] <abian>	 xD
[21:13:19] <bitbit>	 this is awesome. I've been picturing things as a strucuture trying to visualize it in my head for a very long time. this is like a dream to finally see some of it expressed visually
[21:14:24] <nikki>	 there's also https://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/
[21:14:35] <nikki>	 it doesn't do queries but maybe it's still interesting
[21:14:52] <nikki>	 at least, from what I remember... my internet connection won't let me load it >_<
[21:17:24] <bitbit>	 have there been any studies to import semantic data from wikipedia into this project?
[21:17:42] <abian>	 Wikipedia imports data from Wikidata :D
[21:17:50] <bitbit>	 nikki: the explorer is pretty useful too
[21:17:56] <bitbit>	 oh haha
[21:18:54] <abian>	 They're sister projects
[21:19:07] <bitbit>	 yes
[21:19:53] <nikki>	 people have imported quite a lot of data from templates
[21:20:02] <bitbit>	 what kind of data does it import? maybe for the Infobox template?
[21:20:16] <abian>	 That's it, mainly, yes :)
[21:21:06] <nikki>	 for wikidata data being used in wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole_Telescope is the main example I know, the whole infobox comes from wikidata
[21:22:50] <bitbit>	 I ment more like what's known as "Semantic Folding", where a company (cortical.io) used the frequency words are said in association in wikipedia as a guide to the relation between them
[21:23:06] <bitbit>	 in association to each other*
[21:24:34] <abian>	 Not sure what you mean :/
[21:25:46] <bitbit>	 idk if it helps but heres a demo http://www.cortical.io/extract-keywords.html
[21:26:25] <abian>	 Okay, I suppose that's oriented to natural language
[21:26:32] <abian>	 However, Wikidata is a graph
[21:26:46] <bitbit>	 i love graphs
[21:27:13] <abian>	 It only has words in their labels, descriptions and aliases, and they're for humans
[21:27:55] <abian>	 All other data are tons of links between millions of entities
[21:28:07] <bitbit>	 are there similar strucutures for control of the quality of content like in wikipedia?
[21:28:34] <abian>	 Well, not really, there are also integers, short strings, etc., but... :)
[21:28:39] <abian>	 We're controlling quality in Wikidata
[21:29:23] <bitbit>	 I know in Wikipedia you have the talk page, votes, moderators
[21:32:27] <abian>	 There are several ways, but this is one of them, constraints on properties... https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P214#constraints
[21:32:58] <abian>	 (Are you a researcher? Student? Curious?) :)
[21:49:07] <bitbit>	 abian: I'm somewhere in between. Always learning and researching, hopefully one day someone will pay me to do just this :)
[21:52:41] <abian>	 I hope so :)
[21:53:08] <abian>	 But, if not, you can freely contribute to Wikidata :P
[21:53:17] <bitbit>	 haha
[21:53:20] <bitbit>	 absolutely