[10:34:05] <Capone>	 Utf string 16
[14:34:08] <katpatuka>	 hi - how does the sync of a nn.wiki with wikidata work?
[14:34:24] <katpatuka>	 example: a town in China (湾碧傣族傈僳族乡) has moved to a new location with new coordinates because the old location is under reservoir water
[14:35:11] <katpatuka>	 should I edit both zh.wiki AND wikidata or is there some kind of automatic synchronization?
[14:35:33] <katpatuka>	 ... to set the ne coordinates
[14:35:38] <katpatuka>	 ~new
[15:19:18] <hoo>	 katpatuka: There's no synchronization of data from Wikipedia to Wikidata
[15:19:47] <hoo>	 Only if Wikidata-data is used on Wikipedia, a single edit on Wikidata is enough
[16:08:32] <katpatuka>	 hoo: is there a way do use coordinates in wikidata-data in wikipedia (via template or whatever) ?
[16:10:17] <katpatuka>	 or does one have to edit all single wikipedias to reflect the coord-change? if yes then what's wikidata for?
[16:10:35] <hoo>	 katpatuka: No, you can pull in Wikidata data
[16:10:56] <katpatuka>	 hoo: how?
[16:10:59] <sjoerddebruin>	 The French template supports Wikidata already, I think: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Coordinates
[16:11:18] <sjoerddebruin>	 Lua provides the magic. :)
[16:11:19] <hoo>	 katpatuka: There's an interface for use in Lua modules: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Client/Lua
[16:11:32] <hoo>	 It can also be done via the {{#statements:…}} parser function
[16:12:01] <katpatuka>	 doesn't sound too simple!?! ;)
[16:12:15] <AdityaAS_>	 hey
[16:12:49] <hoo>	 Shouldn't be much harder than writing ordinary templates/ modules
[16:13:35] <AdityaAS_>	 Hi, I've been working with wikidata for sometime now and I would like to know how new facts and entities are inserted into the wikidata KB.
[16:15:30] <hoo>	 AdityaAS_: Well, the Wikidata community is responsible for the content… they import and curate all of it :)
[18:18:57] <AdityaAS_>	 hoo: Hey, maybe I was not clear in my question. I know that. It's just that how is the validation done. How does one start contributing to the community. When someone contributes a fact do they have to show a source as a form of proof. Who does the validation? 
[18:19:02] <AdityaAS_>	 I have these questions...
[18:19:34] <AdityaAS_>	 Perhaps it'll be a good exercise if I get started with wikidata and contribute to it. Can anyone guide me in that direction?
[18:22:10] <reosarevok>	 AdityaAS_: you :)
[18:22:15] <reosarevok>	 (do the validation)
[18:22:39] <reosarevok>	 So, basically, when someone contributes a fact they may or may not contribute sources, but ideally they will
[18:23:10] <reosarevok>	 If they don't, one way of contributing is trying to find some sources and adding them as references
[18:23:37] <reosarevok>	 IIRC there's also some sort of "find-a-source" script that should help with that. abartov showed it to us at some point in Estonia, but I forget the name
[18:24:37] <reosarevok>	 AdityaAS_: what's your "local" wikipedia?
[18:25:04] <reosarevok>	 Another relatively easy way in is to look at items with pages in your local wikipedia that have no statements
[18:25:12] <reosarevok>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/without_claims_by_site/etwiki for example is the list for the Estonian wiki
[18:25:55] <reosarevok>	 If there's a similar list for your local wiki, you can use that as a list of things that can use contributions 
[18:26:43] <reosarevok>	 Another option (what I'm mostly doing right now) is finding a decent external data source and importing data from there (but that's better done with a bot of some sort rather than by hand, or it'll get annoying)
[18:27:16] <reosarevok>	 Yet another is to do some mix-n-matching: https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/
[18:27:38] <reosarevok>	 (trying to match Wikidata items to external catalogs, which then allows for example to import more data from them with bots)
[18:29:26] <reosarevok>	 Not sure if any of that helps, but :D
[18:38:29] <WikidataFacts>	 reosarevok: are you thinking of “citoid”? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Aude/citoid.js
[18:38:38] <WikidataFacts>	 (I haven’t tried it myself yet, but I heard good things about it)
[18:38:49] <reosarevok>	 Might be!
[18:45:02] * reosarevok wonders if there's a point to "imported from xxwiki" references when there's other references there
[18:45:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 Nope.
[18:45:45] <reosarevok>	 Is there a bot to get rid=
[18:45:47] <reosarevok>	 *?
[18:46:06] <sjoerddebruin>	 Not really, some human checking if the other reference is actually better is also good. :P
[18:47:12] <reosarevok>	 Is there a WikidataGame for reference checking?
[18:47:16] <reosarevok>	 That'd be kinda useful maybe
[18:48:02] <reosarevok>	 Oh
[18:48:03] <reosarevok>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-game/distributed/#game=14&opt=%7B%22mode%22%3A%22any%22%7D :)
[18:48:19] <reosarevok>	 (sigh, "This game has produced an error. Maybe talk to Magnus Manske about that?", ok)
[18:49:09] <sjoerddebruin>	 We need the Wikidata Game 3 badly :P