[08:52:59] Hiya. I have lists of different kinds of services accessable on the Internet and I want to record the information into Wikibase rather. But I would like to maintain compatibility with Wikidata's system as that would seem prudent when expecting the future [08:53:54] Is there certain set of properties I should import from Wikidata? how much is it if I import all properties if cannot easily determine which ones should get [08:54:34] Item import not make sense.. There would have to be a proper cache with proper cache invalidation .. like there will be one day [08:54:57] Or does Item import make sense. [09:07:17] The lists are of importance .. and I could pass a lot of time by entering these services into a public knowledgebase [09:07:28] but I can't get started [09:08:02] because I don't know what to do about the "import parts of wikidata/don't import parts of wikidata"-question [09:08:50] and Consumerium.org development wiki also has a bunch (67k machine created accounts) [09:09:57] Wikibase federation would be so great [09:10:52] with caching and cache invalidation [09:12:26] but someone is hopefully going to write great code which will enable this [09:13:06] So I should probably just plunge ahead with creating a database of http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/Lists_of_alternative_financial_services and http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/Lists_of_price_comparison_services etc. [09:14:27] and build collaboration with WMF when the possibilities to do so are in place [09:17:45] I don't want to fork from Wikidata. I want Wikidata to open up so I can contribute it [09:18:29] These data are relevant to not redudantly replicate https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Organization [09:27:53] Wikidata is deterring potential contributors with it's "for our wikis only" stance. No-one has designed and coded the Wikibase federation but if the non-WMF wikis could have access to the Wikidata there would be incentive to grow the Wikidata because it benefits the non-WMF wikis and also WMF wikis [09:28:43] I don't have much money to bounty but if there is going to be a crowdfunder to bounty the task I'm in with some money [09:45:31] later y'all [10:51:41] PROBLEM - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1961 bytes in 0.080 second response time [10:52:52] arghghg [10:53:21] QuickStatementsBot [10:54:32] has stopped on its own, so we should be fine in a second [11:10:32] recovery in 3 … 2 … 1 … [11:11:38] RECOVERY - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1969 bytes in 0.091 second response time [11:16:46] hoo|away: just 1m6 out ;) [13:04:01] Wikidata contains a lot of information that is very relevant to Consumerium.org but there is no straightforward and unclunky way to access it at the moment. Where can I learn about importing items and properties data from Wikidata? [13:05:45] it is sad that to use the Wikidata's knowledge in a non-WMF wiki requires in a way forking from it [13:26:22] Hello everyone [13:50:05] hi pandaconstantin [14:30:17] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 30 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @amir1 & @Pablo_WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [14:51:05] hoo: did you contact Magnus yet? [14:57:30] Lydia_WMDE wanted to… not sure she did yet? [14:58:01] Twitter is mostly the fastest way, not seeing stuff there. [15:03:42] PROBLEM - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1976 bytes in 0.099 second response time [15:07:43] Artix Kreiger again. [15:28:38] yikes :( [15:33:37] RECOVERY - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1950 bytes in 0.094 second response time [16:25:41] PROBLEM - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1971 bytes in 0.113 second response time [16:30:00] :| [16:56:19] Had to block yet another bot [16:56:57] dispatching is slowly catching up [17:22:15] Random discovery of the day: Label editing doesn't seem to debounce the keypress event handler, maybe it should [17:22:36] My laptop is pretty slow but there were multiple seconds between render updates [17:24:24] hm, there seems to be a difference between the label in the user interface language (which also updates the label in the heading and the HTML ) and editing the label in another language [17:31:42] <eurodyne> can an op in #wikidata-admin unban me? [17:50:41] <icinga-wm> RECOVERY - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1955 bytes in 0.090 second response time [19:07:36] <icinga-wm> PROBLEM - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1953 bytes in 0.089 second response time [19:27:37] <icinga-wm> RECOVERY - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1971 bytes in 0.116 second response time [19:34:37] <icinga-wm> PROBLEM - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1973 bytes in 0.108 second response time [19:49:37] <icinga-wm> RECOVERY - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1970 bytes in 0.104 second response time [19:51:26] <sjoerddebruin> Never noticed how many blocks we actually do. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_thanks_log=1&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_tag_log=1 [20:31:37] <icinga-wm> PROBLEM - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1966 bytes in 0.076 second response time [20:32:06] <hoo> Again -.- [20:33:22] <hoo> Maybe the actual problem is research bot [20:33:28] <hoo> it's posting very large revisions [21:06:56] <sjoerddebruin> hoo: like I said, the weird thing is that there were no problems for weeks will the amount of edits was even pretty high in january [21:11:37] <icinga-wm> RECOVERY - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on www.wikidata.org is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1943 bytes in 0.082 second response time [22:07:03] <voice_> Hi there, I was encouraged to make a wikipedia page. I believe I have the credentials, I am not very good at this stuff. May I reach out here for assistance? [22:08:41] <voice_> I am the assistant to the person I want to create the page for [22:09:07] <voice_> OK, clearly I have the wrong room. [22:10:07] <voice_> Basile? [22:49:07] <reosarevok> Is there no defaultView for a pie chart in the query service? :(