[02:02:36] <danilo>	 Lucas_WMDE: please fix your connection, you are flooding the channels with join and quit
[13:44:33] <Auregann_WMDE>	 abian: it seems that I can't answer your message in private :/
[14:17:50] <abian>	 Ouch :/
[14:18:07] <abian>	 I think that's because you're not identified with an account, Auregann_WMDE
[14:18:39] <abian>	 But no problem, I'm going to try changing my user modes
[16:22:58] <nikkio>	 hij!
[16:23:30] <nikkio>	 where can I inform myself about things happening around wikidata lately?
[16:31:55] <Lucas_WMDE>	 nikkio: the status updates are probably a good start :) the latest edition is here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/2018_02_05
[16:49:51] <nikkio>	 Lucas_WMDE: thx
[16:49:52] <nikkio>	 ^^
[18:27:56] <reosarevok>	 Is "time of discovery" really supposed to also cover invention? The label looks kinda silly on something like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1543978
[18:29:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 There are no constraints for it.
[18:30:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 And there is some alias.
[18:30:17] <sjoerddebruin>	 See also https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P61
[18:45:06] <Sigfrido>	 hello. what method do you suggest for exporting a set of classes and properties so they can be easily imported in a separate wikibase? or better, is there any way from an external wikibase to exploit existing classes and propertis from wikidata?
[18:50:23] <reosarevok>	 sjoerddebruin: sure, maybe it should be "time of discovery or invention" then? Right now "time of discovery" for a man-invented thing is just... odd
[18:50:39] <sjoerddebruin>	 Sounds good to me.
[18:51:12] <reosarevok>	 I suspect I need more than the sjoerddebruin seal of approval to rename a property though?
[18:51:29] <reosarevok>	 Or is that also a be bold kind of thing :p
[18:51:48] <sjoerddebruin>	 Just do it, but move the old name as alias of course.
[18:51:57] <reosarevok>	 Ok!
[18:52:52] <reosarevok>	 Done. Is there any way I'm missing for me to leave a note on https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P575&action=history like I would make a change note on enwiki?
[18:53:07] <reosarevok>	 (I'd like to mention "doing this because of this" sometimes but I haven't figured out how)
[18:53:07] <sjoerddebruin>	 No. :(
[18:53:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 Also, there is already some talk https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P575
[18:54:16] <reosarevok>	 Oh. Yay, I enacted the will of the people. Or something
[19:09:55] <deror>	 There is a prepery "P138" = "Named after", for example the Eiffel Tower is named after Gustave Eiffel ; but is there a property for the reverse "items named after" which will be a property of "Gustave Eiffel"?
[19:11:04] <sjoerddebruin>	 That kind of information can be received with the query service.
[19:11:47] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3FGustave_Eiffel%20%3FGustave_EiffelLabel%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%20%20%3FGustave_Eiffel%20wdt%3AP138%20wd%3AQ20882.%0A%7D
[19:12:25] <sjoerddebruin>	 Inverse properties are not useful for this.
[19:14:16] <reosarevok>	 Yeah, it would be overkill, since this is also used for say streets, and there's probably an insanely long list of streets named after famous politicians or writers or the like :)
[19:16:16] <sjoerddebruin>	 Like https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fnamedafter%20%3FnamedafterLabel%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%20%20%3Fnamedafter%20wdt%3AP138%20wd%3AQ57304.%0A%7D ? :)