[00:01:20] <Platonides>	 audiodude: where's that query?
[00:02:28] <audiodude>	 I'm not sure how to get a permalink to the example query
[00:02:40] <audiodude>	 https://query.wikidata.org/#%23Famous%20people%20in%20categorised%20into%20eye%20and%20hair%20color%0A%23defaultView%3ATreeMap%0ASELECT%20%3Feyes%20%3FhairColorLabel%20%28COUNT%28%3Fperson%29%20as%20%3Fcount%29%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%09%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP1340%20%3FeyeColor.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP1884%20%3FhairColor.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP2048%20%3Fheight.%0A%20%20%20%20%3FeyeColor%20rdfs%3Alabel%20
[00:02:40] <audiodude>	 %3F_eyeColorLabel.%0A%20%20%20%20FILTER%28%28LANG%28%3F_eyeColorLabel%29%29%20%3D%20%22en%22%29%0A%20%20%20%20BIND%28CONCAT%28%3F_eyeColorLabel%2C%20%22%20eyes%22%29%20AS%20%3Feyes%29%0A%20%20%20%0A%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Feyes%20%3FhairColorLabel
[00:02:42] <audiodude>	 Here we go
[00:02:55] <audiodude>	 oh god that was awful sorry
[00:03:30] <audiodude>	 https://pastebin.com/Um9qXPxf
[00:03:50] <Platonides>	 heh, wikidata queries are like that ;)
[00:05:01] <Platonides>	 it indeed seems "implicit"
[00:05:46] <audiodude>	 boooo
[00:05:49] <Platonides>	 Maybe a better name would be "Eye and hair color of people (for those which we have such data)"
[00:05:52] <audiodude>	 okay thanks for checking
[00:06:16] <Platonides>	 not that I am even a decent SPARQL speaker
[00:06:28] <Platonides>	 but I don't see where it could lie there
[00:06:30] <audiodude>	 follow up question, do you know of any predicate that could be used for "famousness" or as a proxy for the same?
[00:06:42] <Platonides>	 hmm
[00:06:53] <Platonides>	 it will probably depend on the field
[00:07:29] <Platonides>	 you could filter that they received a nobel prize or an Academy Award…
[00:07:42] <audiodude>	 that's a good start
[00:07:53] <audiodude>	 sounds like it's going to be some multifaceted heuristic
[00:07:59] <audiodude>	 if I go down that road
[00:08:03] <Platonides>	 another option could be checking the number of Wikipedias where there is an article for this person
[00:08:18] <Platonides>	 if it is a famous and relevant one
[00:08:29] <audiodude>	 that could work
[00:08:32] <Platonides>	 given wikipedia inclusion criteria
[00:08:44] <Platonides>	 there *should* be present on many 
[00:08:50] <audiodude>	 en has a lot of people I've seriously never heard of
[00:09:38] <audiodude>	 but I bet that some state senator wouldn't also be on pt or whatever
[00:11:30] <Platonides>	 you would be surprised
[00:11:55] <Platonides>	 maybe a random pt user decided to create article about US Senators
[00:12:50] <Platonides>	 depending how you measure being famous, another thing you may want to filter on is the date of birth/death
[00:13:48] <Platonides>	 would you consider Anterus (s III Pope) famous?
[00:13:59] <Platonides>	 sure he was at his time, but probably not so much today
[00:16:05] <audiodude>	 I'm definitely only looking for current fame
[00:16:30] <audiodude>	 curious you bring up date of death, because this is for a computer game of "dead or alive"
[00:17:04] <Platonides>	 oh
[00:19:22] <audiodude>	 I'll probably just seed with, say, Academy Award winners and US presidents and hand curate from there
[00:19:24] <audiodude>	 or something like that
[00:21:01] <Platonides>	 seems a good point
[00:21:21] <Platonides>	 you could have several sets the user can enable and disable, too
[00:21:48] <Platonides>	 maybe someone has zero knowledge about US presidents, but enjoys football players
[00:21:54] <audiodude>	 good idea!
[00:22:01] <audiodude>	 actually as soon as you said "the user"
[00:22:07] <audiodude>	 I thought, why don't I just mturk this
[00:22:20] <audiodude>	 ask actual people "Rank these 5 names in order from least to most famous"
[00:22:23] <Platonides>	 mturk?
[00:22:25] <Platonides>	 oh
[00:22:28] <audiodude>	 amazon mechanical turk
[00:22:30] <Platonides>	 I see
[00:22:46] <Platonides>	 I understood it when you mentioned the question
[00:33:18] <audiodude>	 well anyways thanks Platonides for your help! I'll figure something out
[14:27:57] <sec^nd>	 How do I query qualifiers in Wikidata?
[15:40:50] <sjoerddebruin>	 sec^nd: http://en.swpat.org/wiki/MPEG_LA#cite_note-11
[15:40:53] <sjoerddebruin>	 ehm wait
[15:40:56] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/SPARQL/WIKIDATA_Qualifiers,_References_and_Ranks
[15:40:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 That one
[15:44:40] <sec^nd>	 Thanks sjoerddebruin
[15:48:53] <Lucas_WMDE>	 w00t there’s a SPARQL Wikibook?
[15:49:18] <Lucas_WMDE>	 that’s awesome! :D
[15:50:00] <Lucas_WMDE>	 hehe, and https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/SPARQL/Sentences looks familiar :)
[16:07:30] <Nemo_bis>	 Yes it reorganises a significant chunk of material found elsewhere, I use it every now and then
[18:29:48] <sjoerddebruin>	 Recoin seems to be live updated now :O
[18:39:42] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh wow, someone using the Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/Wikidata/comments/7rj56o/how_to_get_associated_english_wikipedia_page_from/