[09:47:47] <Rudolphous>	 can somebody enlight this for me?
[09:47:59] <Rudolphous>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=xml&prop=revisions%7Cpageprops&rvlimit=1&rvprop=content%7Ccomment%7Ctimestamp%7Cuser%7Cids%7Cflags&rvdir=older&titles=Category%3AZurich%2C+Ontario
[09:48:05] <Rudolphous>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=xml&prop=revisions%7Cpageprops&rvlimit=1&rvprop=content%7Ccomment%7Ctimestamp%7Cuser%7Cids%7Cflags&rvdir=older&titles=Category%3AFrance
[09:48:16] <Rudolphous>	 the first gives back no wikidata entry but the second does
[09:48:29] <Rudolphous>	 why?
[09:48:53] <Rudolphous>	 See "<pageprops wikibase_item="Q8249"/>"
[10:50:07] <Albert221>	 Hey Jonas_WMDE!
[11:13:20] <reosarevok>	 Rudolphous: I'm guessing it is connected somehow with one being a Commons category while the other isn't? 
[11:13:46] <reosarevok>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zurich,_Ontario links to a WD item, but it's the item for Zurich, Ontario, not a category page
[11:13:59] <reosarevok>	 (category item, whatevs) like the Category:France one
[12:25:13] <Albert221>	 Jonas_WMDE, hey, you there? :)
[15:28:54] * reosarevok sighs
[15:29:04] <reosarevok>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q12361770&action=history - any way to undo that merge?
[15:31:35] <reosarevok>	 (one is the specific Estonian concept, the other seems to be completely generic, but I don't speak German)
[15:36:54] <reosarevok>	 Maybe the Estonian one could be a subclass of the other but I don't think they should be the same item, anyway
[15:47:28] <Albert221>	 Jonas_WMDE, hello! :)
[15:49:01] <RexxS>	 He's still marked as away, Albert
[15:57:09] <sjoerddebruin>	 Maybe stop spamming him.
[15:58:17] <RexxS>	 will that help?
[16:45:57] <nikki>	 reosarevok: have you tried restoring an older version of both items from before the merge? (the target of the merge would need to be done first)
[17:47:05] <reosarevok>	 nikki: I have not, but can try :)
[17:47:20] <reosarevok>	 Didn't want to try anything and mess it more
[17:49:38] <reosarevok>	 nikki: "[WlEMJApAMFEAAH0@ec8AAAAS] 2018-01-06 17:49:24: Fatal exception of type "Diff\Patcher\PatcherException"" on the source (after doing the target)
[17:50:23] <reosarevok>	 (or sjoerddebruin maybe ^? )
[17:51:32] * nikki doesn't know why that's happening :(
[17:53:51] <reosarevok>	 Do I need to undo the redirect bits first and then the merge?
[17:54:01] <reosarevok>	 (so, the PLBot bits in https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q12361770&action=history)
[17:56:29] <sjoerddebruin>	 I don't know the full problem.
[17:58:11] <reosarevok>	 sjoerddebruin: I'm trying to undo a merge (of the specific Estonian official category into a more generic item)
[17:58:32] <reosarevok>	 I undid the destination fine, but I wanted to undo the source now (remove the redirect etc)
[17:59:18] <sjoerddebruin>	 done
[18:01:26] <reosarevok>	 Thanks!
[18:01:39] <reosarevok>	 Now I will move the et sitelink, which probably did need to move :)
[18:04:29] <reosarevok>	 Or well, maybe one of the WMDE people can tell me if https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q811165 is supposed to be specifically about Germany, as claimed by the Spanish description, or not. Lydia_WMDE or any other German speaker around? :) 
[18:06:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 reosarevok: the german description and article don't seem to be specific to germany
[18:06:17] <Lydia_WMDE>	 but about the general concept
[18:06:19] <reosarevok>	 Thanks :) 
[18:06:27] <reosarevok>	 Then I guess the etwiki link can stay
[18:17:09] <rick_>	 hello
[18:20:03] <sjoerddebruin>	 hey
[18:21:02] <rick_>	 How to start contributing to wikidata
[18:21:14] <rick_>	 I've setup vagrant on my machine
[18:38:44] <Guest64675>	 hi
[18:39:28] <Guest64675>	 love
[19:27:13] <rick_>	 hi
[19:28:51] <rick_>	 I have setup vagrant
[19:29:31] <rick_>	 I want to contribute to wikidata. What repos are needed for that
[20:55:26] <sjoerddebruin>	 this looks like a mess https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3182820
[21:06:14] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 hi!
[21:06:32] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 is there a SPARQL-ninja who could help me?
[21:07:56] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 http://tinyurl.com/y8dw6y56 why can't I see the backlinks?
[21:08:06] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 it's probably something stupid, I'm tired
[21:08:21] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 sjoerddebruin: ?
[21:08:30] <sjoerddebruin>	 Do I look like a SPARQL expert lol
[21:08:49] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 … yeah, maybe not :p
[21:09:24] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 pretty sure it's something obvious, but I have written so many queries in the last hour that I don't see straight
[21:14:00] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 ahhhh
[21:14:08] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 I think I found the error
[21:14:53] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 YES!
[21:14:59] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 thank you everyone :p
[21:15:14] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 seems like i just needed to ask for help to find it^^
[21:53:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 Let's make a mess. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q44050&action=history
[23:45:16] <Albert221>	 hello Jonas_WMDE!
[23:51:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 It's almost 1 am...
[23:53:35] <Albert221>	 I got an email with his update not so long ago