[00:00:50] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/php-fig/Z1dds-mBRrE "Proposal for RDF interfaces " [00:22:45] We have our own even… [00:28:33] yeah, Purtle is missing from that list [10:01:37] multichill: quick property constraint question. I added the last one to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P3659 but aren't the two before that one equivalent? [10:41:01] Sort of yes, but doesn't really hurt [10:48:06] Ok then [10:55:01] * reosarevok submits a proposal for teams too to complement that one [10:58:28] Lydia_WMDE: Do we keep track somewhere of problems like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings/Label_collisions ? [12:23:00] Will qualifiers on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18625066 always sort by the time they were added? it looks a bit silly to have start time after end time, but it also feels silly to remove and readd end time just for that [12:35:11] reosarevok: yes they will stay like that unless you change it manually as described [12:45:44] Sigh. Oh well [13:38:33] multichill: can you shine your light on this discussion as well https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#von_Surname_and_van_Surname [14:39:19] Heh. Someone else is also working on the Estonian municipalities. Never sure whether that's a work saver or extra work to make sure our work fits... [16:47:33] sjoerddebruin: would you use end time on the p31 or end time as its own property for municipalities? [16:47:37] (or both) [16:57:58] I guess since the items are only for the municipality now, just end time: 2017 would work [17:01:48] As it own, cause we do the same for people [17:02:20] Ok! [17:02:31] That simplifies the query too :) [17:21:41] sjoerddebruin: I would see it as different names. Say "Molen" or "Van der Molen", those are different names [17:22:23] We hit software limitations then, because you can't have two times with one "Van der Molen" and one "van der Molen" [17:22:48] That's why I suggested a separate property, that will also improve sorting. [17:25:08] Fun modelling problem. Why are we modelling names again? ;-) [17:25:40] I've had a thought that we should use Cognate for disambiguation pages. Less discussion. :P [17:25:45] Two families could have picked "Molenaar" and turn out to be completely unrelated [17:26:16] Family names don't mean that much no. [17:26:22] Maybe that's a good angle to try to sort this out: Go back to why we're doing this again [18:11:50] sjoerddebruin: your name reminds me of the .no word "sjokoladebrun" (chocolate brown) [18:12:18] .. :O wait, is it dutch? [18:12:48] lol [18:12:48] It is Dutch. [18:12:57] knew it :D [18:13:18] what does "sjoerdde" mean? [18:13:32] It's Sjoerd de Bruin [18:13:34] Just my full name. [18:13:39] ooohhh [18:14:13] it's a nice name [18:14:20] * CatQuest gos back to lurking [18:14:28] Okay haha [18:35:46] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2044&diff=601154592&oldid=583665401 seems to be a mistake. can someone undo it if so please? [18:36:42] gone [18:37:09] thanks [18:52:03] Jonas_WMDE: hi! how can I generate a `Change-Id` for a commit? [18:55:46] maxlath[m]: in Gerrit, or what kind of "commit"? [18:56:29] should be covered on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial [18:57:20] andre__: in the wikidata-query-gui git project, but nevermind, there seems to be a git hook that tagged my commit with that `Change-Id` [18:58:44] yeah, there is [19:51:49] 40 million items soon. [20:13:14] \o/ [21:37:32] sjoerddebruin: We could probably do a query to find cases like https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P1186&curid=17446934&diff=602780441&oldid=592128835 .... [21:37:59] Sure.