[14:51:22] <nameless>	 hi! is a Wikibase client useless without a Wikibase repository?
[15:04:51] <Reedy>	 Depends
[15:04:55] <Reedy>	 Needs a repo *somewhere*
[15:07:16] <nameless>	 is the repo a mirror of wikidata.org?
[15:11:52] <Reedy>	 It can be completely your own repository
[15:13:54] <nameless>	 yes, but how much disk space does it take?
[15:15:19] <Reedy>	 For what?
[15:15:38] <nameless>	 for the repo
[15:17:11] <Reedy>	 Depends what you put in it
[15:25:35] <nameless>	 let's say i want same infoboxes in my wiki as in Wikipedia
[19:19:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 "The database has been automatically locked while the replica database servers catch up to the master."
[19:19:34] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, there we g.
[19:47:12] <icinga-wm>	 PROBLEM - High lag on wdqs1003 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: 31.03% of data above the critical threshold [1800.0] https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-query-service?orgId=1panelId=8fullscreen
[19:48:18] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yikes
[19:48:33] <sjoerddebruin>	 Seems a hiccup
[20:52:10] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: I hope so, just fired up an import and would like it to run without crashing tonight ;-)
[20:52:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 Haha, good. :D
[20:52:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 I just have the feeling that I'm fixing others mess all the time, not really rewarding. :(
[20:54:13] <multichill>	 I'm doing another import of the Amsterdam Museum. Was one of my earlier collections so quite a few new statements to add and missing items
[20:54:38] <multichill>	 ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings/Collection/Amsterdam_Museum )
[20:55:32] <icinga-wm>	 RECOVERY - High lag on wdqs1003 is OK: OK: Less than 30.00% above the threshold [600.0] https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-query-service?orgId=1panelId=8fullscreen
[21:29:15] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: The paintings I'm uploading do include a lot of politicians. How is that project going?
[21:29:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 Still fixing municipalities.
[22:06:01] <reosarevok>	 That reminds me, sjoerddebruin: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q24545692 still has all those "Wikimedia list" descriptions, so it seems no bot has removed them automatically - how do I do that? Is there some gadget? :)
[22:08:25] <sjoerddebruin>	 There is some bot active for that afaik
[22:08:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 Also a script/gadget, but you need to be rollbacker afaik
[22:18:10] * reosarevok shrugs - can wait longer I guess :)
[22:24:37] <reosarevok>	 sjoerddebruin: for the mayor position of a merged municipality, what would you suggest doing? end time and start time for P1001? I guess *technically* they could be different positions, but it's just weird IMO to have "mayor of X" and "mayor of X", where X is the same, only with more territory...
[22:25:04] <sjoerddebruin>	 Depends if they merged into an existing municipality or a complete new one
[22:25:45] <reosarevok>	 Well, the municipality has the same name, but a different WD item
[22:26:10] <sjoerddebruin>	 My municipality is going to merge as well soon, but because one doesn't want to work together they had to go for the more expensive option. So now all personel and the mayor gets fired and rehired.
[22:26:39] <reosarevok>	 Heh
[22:27:11] <reosarevok>	 "In Tartu City are the city-inside-a-city Tartu, the villages X and Y, the hamlets Z..." 
[22:27:25] <reosarevok>	 Thanks, Estonian government, that doesn't sound ridiculous at all
[22:27:59] <reosarevok>	 So technically the mayor used to be mayor of Tartu city, and is now mayor of Tartu city, which includes Tartu city (and more stuff)
[22:28:00] * reosarevok sighs
[22:31:56] <reosarevok>	 I guess the cleanest option is to have different positions for now, and they can be merged somehow later on if wanted. I just wonder if it's not confusing if someone wants a list of "mayors of Tartu" that they have to go over all the different ways it's been governed in the past, but I guess it makes some sense
[22:33:04] <sjoerddebruin>	 I have the same case for professorship at Belgian universities.
[22:33:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 There were language-combined in the beginning and were seperated later. So I've got someone that got an position one year before they got seperated...
[22:35:33] <reosarevok>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6627739 is this use of "of" here legit?
[22:35:44] <reosarevok>	 It seems like it duplicates "applies to jurisdiction"
[22:36:25] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, not needed.
[22:47:43] <reosarevok>	 Are you doing all the municipality stuff by hand or do you have some bot to create the different actual positions once you have the municipalities themselves?
[22:49:18] <sjoerddebruin>	 Probably. That's why I want to fix the municipalities first.
[22:49:25] <sjoerddebruin>	 And start with the ones that still exist.
[22:51:00] <reosarevok>	 And the merged municipalities were being marked with what P? Replaced by? (I know I've asked but I forgot)
[22:51:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 Probably.
[22:55:46] <reosarevok>	 Can I get qualifiers with a listeria list?
[22:56:03] <reosarevok>	 (looking for a clear overview of start and end dates of "instance of: municipality")
[22:56:55] <WikidataFacts>	 should be possible with the right query
[23:21:12] <reosarevok>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User%3AReosarevok%2FEstonian_politics%2FVallad whoo
[23:21:16] <reosarevok>	 ... so much to do
[23:21:21] <reosarevok>	 But whoo
[23:25:03] <reosarevok>	 sjoerddebruin: are you adding instance of Q19953632 to stuff? 
[23:25:10] <reosarevok>	 {{Q19953632}}
[23:25:11] <AsimovBot>	 10[5] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Q19953632
[23:25:20] <reosarevok>	 eh. meh. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19953632 dammit :D
[23:25:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 I'm still in doubt of that.
[23:25:41] <sjoerddebruin>	 If you set it to prefered, it would make queries simpler.
[23:26:54] <reosarevok>	 I sense a but coming
[23:27:51] <reosarevok>	 Heh. Setting a replaced by to a city doesn't make sense, so yeah, one point for "city and actual territorial thingy should be separate items"
[23:30:39] * reosarevok creates one of those