[07:31:44] hello [07:32:10] is any admin of wikidata here? I'm confused about someone [07:32:24] thus would like to ask for help [08:31:39] someone? [09:49:51] if anyone can answer this, I'm interested in the answer too: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46507037/how-to-get-all-allowed-languages-for-wikidata [09:54:19] pintoch: https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=paraminfo&modules=wbsetlabel modules[0].parameters[8].type [09:54:19] El búfer 8 está vacío. [09:54:37] I don't have a stackoverflow account, so can't comment there [09:55:08] hoo: awesome, thanks a lot! [09:55:26] I can post it there and credit you :) [11:31:20] Hmmm https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-datamodel-statements?refresh=30m&panelId=6&fullscreen&orgId=1 [14:32:41] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 30 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @addshore & @Andrew-WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [15:00:31] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting now in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @addshore & @Andrew-WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [15:00:57] Hm, no statements for https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3428776 [15:01:23] huh [15:01:37] I would also say that Datenbanksprache ≠ query (-sprache = language, not individual query) [15:01:43] I agree. [15:07:04] Moved that one. [15:10:47] Seems like the Germans only seperate query language and database language [15:11:11] :+1: for the move, thanks [15:11:39] oof, the dewiki article then goes on to point out that Abfragesprache ≠ Datenbanksprache [15:11:51] let’s see if we have a query language item too… [15:11:58] We do. [15:12:07] okay, subclass of database language [15:12:38] Yeah, that sounded logical to me. [15:13:23] But you might query in non-databases? :P [15:14:05] yeah, dewiki article says so :/ [15:14:26] Well, adjusted then. [15:15:21] so should there be a new item for their intersection? database query langugae? [15:15:23] *language [15:16:28] I just wanted to fill "query". :P [15:17:51] Is it a subclass of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23312670? [20:10:05] Any thoughts on start and end dates for … "semi-inherent characteristics"? [20:12:16] Not that this is a relevant statement in wikidata but for the sake of example, a human has two legs for pretty much their whole life, barring an accident; is it appropriate to say that the number of legs is "2" with a start and end date? [20:12:27] (for a particular person) [20:13:35] or I guess an actual better example might be the sex/gender of a person: barring a change during their life it's pretty inherent; someone doesn't stop being a man/woman when they die, right? [20:15:02] hm, that kinda reminds me of nationality statements of East German citizens [20:15:14] which often start with their date of birth and end on October 2nd 1990 [20:15:32] even though the person themselves didn’t do anything on that day affecting their nationality [20:17:41] Nod [20:21:39] I'm working with locomotives but I think the principle is the same: it feels very odd to say that everything about it just stops when the item stops. [20:22:11] or “spouse” statements that end with the death [20:22:29] then again, I suppose that *is* appropriate on the statement of the spouse that didn’t die [20:22:31] hrm [20:22:33] Right. :-) [20:22:54] Some of the legalistic things make some sense, such as citizenship or marital status. [20:23:26] (Though I would suppose the state in question probably still says "that is legally the corpse of an XYZ citizen") [20:23:58] even though John Doe is technically no longer recognized as being a citizen of XYZ due to death, maybe? [20:25:21] I’d bet countries have differing opinions on that, actually [22:24:11] ugh, the interface changed, and it's ruining my flow :/ [22:24:54] what i'm talking about: when you type a property, the cursor no longer automatically moves to the next form field [22:25:09] not even when you use the arrow key to specifically choose which property to add [22:25:15] meaning you have to press Tab [22:26:19] also, when you tab from the statement field to "Add qualifier" and press Enter, it saves the statement instead of adding a qualifier