[04:59:34] hi [05:01:02] is there a way to show Wikidata Item page's each property in other language to anonymous user ? [05:01:28] how can i introduce Wikidata with local language? [05:06:48] :| [09:23:11] SMalyshev: Is it possible to get the full http request, which the query from (22:33) produces? [09:27:23] I'm trying to batch-add some 600 statements/qualifiers to existing items using QuickStatements, but the rate limiting is making this a lot less fun than it could be. Is there anything I can do to speed it up? [09:41:11] how slow is it? [09:41:47] or is it preventing the edits from being made? [09:45:00] Not sure what exactly what the rate limit is, couldn't find any documentation but I'm sure it's *somewhere*. I'd guess about 10 edits per minute? [09:47:41] So for 600 edits that's 60 minutes, which would actually be fine. Unfortunately QuickStatements doesn't have a throttle option. [09:48:28] I might be able to hack around that, but I was wondering if there's an easier way. [09:50:54] I don't know if the new version (http://tools.wmflabs.org/quickstatements/) has added a limit but that's slower than what I'm used to with the original version (https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/quick_statements.php) [09:51:28] so if you're using the newer one, you could try the older one, if both are slow, it might be somehow linked to the account [09:52:19] I don't know that much about how it all works, but I appear to be the only person around right now :P [09:53:07] Cheers, I hadn't seen the new version, I'll play around with that. [09:53:38] If that doesn't work, I'll try working around it. [09:59:10] Yup, the new version seems to be doing the trick. It's slow, but it works. Thanks! [10:18:49] oh, good :) [14:05:30] sjoerddebruin: is it a known problem that "category combines topics" isn't suggested for categories, even though that property is used well over 200,000 times? [14:06:07] I only get two suggestions, "category's main topic" and "commons category" [14:06:09] nikki: well, there are 2910777 category items... [14:06:44] P301 has 480k... [14:06:53] I think we are close to the treshold. [14:09:09] what is the threshold? [14:11:57] if it's going to take hundreds of thousands of statements to get it to work, I'll probably just give up on adding them, it'll take far too long and I wear my keyboard out enough repeatedly typing the same strings all the time as it is :/ [14:14:22] yet again I wish I had a gadget that would make specific properties always be shown in the suggester >_< [14:21:23] nikki: ehm, let me find [14:24:32] $wgPropertySuggesterMinProbability = 0.069; [15:44:23] nikki: Would it be nice to be able to also manually configure suggestions somewhere? [15:44:54] Shouldn't be too hard to add that to the extension [15:45:43] Maybe not as cool as the automatic learning, but it would serve a purpose [15:45:48] you mean in a way that affects everyone ratehr than an individual user? [15:48:41] also, I had some ideas about the years thing [15:49:04] Manual additions/override for the suggestion table [15:52:13] I was thinking it would make sense to blacklist any languages which have inconsistent labels (e.g. http://tinyurl.com/ybqjfwtr finds all the languages which have year labels that aren't just the numeric value of the year) [15:52:17] nikki: Take https://pastebin.com/eVDGNm1g . Would be nice if you could insert something there [15:53:27] I did fix lots things already, so the ones which are left are mostly ones which don't just use the numeric value, or ones which are inconsistent and need a speaker of that language to look at it [15:54:59] brb [15:55:03] and I was also thinking that it would make sense to compare the description you want to use with the corresponding label on the year item [15:57:30] http://tinyurl.com/yccnzu9n like that... there's a bunch where the capitalisation is different, but some where the text is actually different. russian in particular looks like it says 21st century, so it wouldn't be appropriate to use that for all items [15:58:14] I also checked all the capitalised labels on the year item too, I don't know how correct the labels are, but they should at least be correctly capitalised now :P [16:00:14] going back to property suggestions: there are some cases where we say that if an item has one property, it should have another, so that seems like a good case for being able to manually alter it [16:26:17] Might just do it in two steps [16:26:22] multichill: there is some work going on for a parameter to set the probability on 0. [16:26:48] And we are already tuning the suggestion database a bit, some properties that are being used in different scopes are excluded to improve the suggestions. [16:27:29] Still, things like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12071872 are hard for the existing suggester. [19:26:53] andi_m: yes, possible, though I'd need to remember what exactly flags to give to network tracer to produce it