[00:08:42] nikki, hey, you're an admin right? [00:09:11] ah, sorry, didn't see you went to sleep [00:09:13] nvw [00:09:17] *nvm [00:09:19] i should do the same [07:28:38] Jhs: yes, if you still need something :) [07:28:47] nikki, yay [07:29:02] perform my edit request here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Jitrixis/nameGuzzler.js [07:29:07] Jitrixis hasn't edited since February [07:29:36] (that sounded like an order... I meant "could you please" before "perform my") [07:32:56] nikki, (oh, and by my edit request I mean the last section, the first two can be ignored) [07:33:24] * nikki is looking at it [07:33:45] it's not so easy to see the changes in a single line >_< [07:38:35] is there a reason you added bbc and not bbc-latn? [07:38:45] nikki, then you should enable line wrapping, it's the fifth button from the left right above the edit window [07:39:26] basically just replace line 138 in the script with the one I posted [07:39:54] probably just an oversight @ bbc-latn [07:40:08] line wrapping wouldn't help, I wanted to check what was being added :) I just replaced the colons with line breaks in a local file so I could make a usable diff that way [07:40:24] ah. diff view then ;) [07:40:55] or that method yeah, i use that a lot too [07:47:46] done [07:48:46] nikki, awesome, thank you very much! :) [07:50:33] you're welcome :) [07:52:02] by the way, I noticed some of the translations you wanted adding on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-autoEdit.js#Some_translations haven't been added as labels on the corresponding items, would be good if you could add them [07:52:15] like sje/sma/smj don't have a label on the item for year [07:56:35] nikki, ooh, good idea! [07:57:33] thx [07:57:37] {{done}} [07:57:37] How cool, Jhs! [07:57:49] what a polite bot! [07:58:07] ^^ [08:01:12] nikki, i want to bother you some more. i need some help with a query. i have this query: http://tinyurl.com/ybkk8hxj , which works like i want. but i want to sort the results by number of sitelinks, and am trying this, but it's not working: http://tinyurl.com/ydgmy5dp and for the life of me i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong [08:01:26] the stuff i added in that second query is the same as in example queries which are working fine :s [08:03:05] Jhs: bad groupby [08:03:05] http://tinyurl.com/ycbl5ydx runs, at least [08:03:42] aaah, so i need to include everything in the group by [08:03:48] you need to list everything in "group by" that you want to select, other than things that apply to the whole set of results like count [08:03:49] yeah [08:03:55] Jhs: yup [08:04:15] perfecto, thank you very much again :) :) [08:06:52] hmm. people are adding wiktionary main namespace pages as sitelinks now :/ [08:07:28] urkkk no! [08:07:44] maybe we can do an Abusefilter? [08:07:52] so it *can't* be done? [08:10:09] usually we just disable namespaces we don't want to be linked [08:14:02] yah, that could work [08:14:31] and quite a few of the links are new items, probably because of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30408952 :/ [08:18:41] urgh [08:23:30] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Asinis632 feel free to copy that message if there are more users doing that [08:24:20] i second the AbuseFilter idea though [08:25:04] all pages in the main namespace that need to be linked have already been added: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5296 :D [09:52:13] hi, how can I create items WITH labels? [09:52:32] PetScan somehow doesn't fill labels [09:55:22] QuickStatements [09:56:30] or manually with the "createNewitem" link, of course [09:56:39] but for creating multiple entries, QS [09:56:45] of course, not manually, I mean thousands [09:56:57] oh, again new version... where's help for QS... [09:57:18] and how to create a job for some category? [09:57:32] what do you mean by "how to create a job" ? [09:57:57] batch. QS now works only with batches [09:58:25] do your SPARQL query and/or Petscan, download it in a .csv [09:58:32] work your .csv [09:58:47] then convert your .csv to QS with CSV2QS [09:58:59] then paste your batch in QS [09:59:13] infovarius: what are you creating? [09:59:24] ok, thank you, I'll try. It was much easier with Creator... [09:59:36] Wiktionary items [10:00:02] nikki: ^ [10:00:09] yes? [10:00:21] * Ash_Crow really needs to update csv2qs. [10:00:23] infovarius want to create Wiktionary item [10:00:35] nikki: I let you explain :p [10:00:40] * Harmonia_Boulot back to work [10:00:56] of course, I mean not main NS [10:02:20] infovarius: then a query to download your list, then a .csv, etc. [10:04:42] by the way infovarius I splitted all possible writings for "Roerich"/"Röhrich"/etc. [10:04:51] infovarius: should be clean now [10:05:52] oh no :) [10:06:31] such a stress all those names-surnames... [10:06:45] and I'm still cleaning several hundreds of wrong merges of Russian surnames to disambiguation pages [10:06:58] (yay Sporti) [10:07:00] why to "clean" them... [10:07:23] it's better to clean "__DISAMBIG__" out of Russian surnames... [10:07:45] well, Wikidata doesn't decide for the Russian WP [10:07:59] if they want to have it as disambiguation pages, that's their choice [10:08:08] interwiki-linking with (sur)name items is now very arbitrary and not sufficient and getting worse with each splitting... [10:08:45] but I meant cleaning slovene articles about Russian surnames wrongly merge, actually [10:08:54] merged* [10:09:03] no Russian sitelinks involved [10:09:06] quick example please? [10:09:22] urgh [10:11:18] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q12797435&redirect=no https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q445241 [10:11:34] the first is a surname, the other is categorized in all languages as disambiguation [10:14:00] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Homonymie_de_patronyme, ha [10:14:33] but yes, probably separated better than merged in such a way [10:14:58] infovarius: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q12797435 ;) [10:15:55] ok, looks good [10:17:06] soon we will think how to connect this with wikt:Невский and wikt:Nevsky [10:17:49] yes! [10:17:52] well [10:18:11] when the development team tell us how to do that [10:18:24] but yes, I'm so impatient for WD to deal with lemme [10:18:35] huge step, yes [10:18:50] hopely it helps with (sur)names too [10:19:14] it will help, that's sure [10:21:24] aude: DanielK_WMDE: Lydia_WMDE: Reedy: was there a reason why all the entities on https://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org were deleted? [10:21:50] I've just restored a few of them since some of our browsertests (unfortunately) rely on them. [10:34:24] Harmonia_Boulot: should https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q26030288 be merged into https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21042800? [10:35:33] nikki: yes [10:35:46] thanks [11:48:04] infovarius: why have you created https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30430398 instead of using https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4960490? [11:48:40] you added "said to be the same as" but who says they're not the same? if they're not the same why do they have the same main topic statement? [12:10:33] nikki, there do seem to be some nuances in the categories that might warrant different items [12:11:20] dutch category is "words by language" [12:11:27] same with Limburgs category [12:11:57] Aragonese is just "reference" [12:17:37] plenty of them are just "category:languages" though. if it's not acceptable to put them all on the existing item, then they need splitting up, not all putting on a new item [13:37:40] Harmonia, so what should we do with [[Q42711]]? [13:37:41] 10[2] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42711 [13:38:11] Either change to "Николай", or move ~6000 statements? [13:41:16] infovarius: I would keep Q42771 as Nicholas, Q5486169 as Николай [13:41:21] infovarius: less to move [13:41:36] but yes, there will be thousands of statements to move [13:42:25] we should start by moving all "Nikolai" statements from Q5486169 (Николай) to a new Nikolai item [13:42:40] and then move all Николай to Q5486169 [13:43:50] will start cleaning now [13:49:41] infovarius: clean descriptions: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5486169# [13:51:14] I'll move Latin-script names to new Q30442370, [13:51:19] then we can move the cyrillic [13:51:58] wwait [13:52:41] I would keep Q42771 as Николай, changed Q5486169 to Nicholas - less to move [13:53:18] too late [13:53:18] and frankly, to much hassle [13:53:49] there are like less than a dozen of not-Николай linked to Q5486169 [13:53:50] and it's the P1705 since months [13:54:05] Q5486169 never was about Nicholas [13:54:10] that would be weird [13:54:35] may be yes about Q5486169, but many thousands Николай are already at Q42771 [13:54:54] and not so many not-Николай at Q42771 [13:55:02] so it's easier to move all of them to Q42771 [13:55:16] no [13:55:27] because Q42771 link many forms [13:55:41] and Q5486169 link only "Николай" now [13:55:47] did you look at my figures at talk page? ~6000 Николай and <1500 not-Николай at Q42771 [13:56:10] Q5486169 has only 848 items! [13:56:26] yes, but we will have to move that 1500 practically manually [13:56:36] meanwhile we can move these 6000 automatically [13:56:46] so less work [13:56:51] I'm all for less work [13:57:09] less work for human :) but much more edits :) [13:57:31] who care? [13:57:44] it looks like non-deliberate and not-conscious editing [13:58:07] uh no [13:58:18] Q42771 right now is about a *dozen* of names [13:58:31] we will move each variant to its own item [13:58:46] semi-automatically [13:58:56] and we already have a clean item for Николай [13:59:03] hm, ok... I'll move Николай's [13:59:51] infovarius: i'm doing it [14:00:00] well, I'm preparing the script [14:00:11] but it will be done in the next few hours [14:04:23] hmm, where is ru:Александр?.. [14:04:44] it's so difficult to find a particular name now... [14:06:17] ah, [[Q17501806]]... [14:06:18] 10[3] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17501806 [14:27:47] weird, Q42771 had some "Сергей" listed [14:27:49] like, how did that happen?! [14:28:41] can't see [14:29:38] well, it's corrected now but it was weird [14:31:59] oh, it was me, strange... [14:33:12] i need to go, 'will continue in an hour approximatively [14:33:23] should be done by tonight [14:47:31] how long does it take for special:unconnectedpages to update? [14:50:38] nikki: i mostly just null edit pages [14:50:44] doesn't help :( [14:50:49] Weird. [14:54:07] oh, there's still a delay after the null edit it seems [14:54:36] but still, how do I get it to update without null editing *everything*? :/ [14:54:49] Wait. [14:54:53] how long? [14:56:29] it's been three hours for some of them, I don't know whether I need to wait hours, days, weeks or what [14:56:32] You actually need to perform a "forcelinkupdate" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55562 [14:56:50] what's that? [14:57:47] parameter for the purge command https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Purge [14:58:17] Still, idk how often that happens automaticly [15:21:16] well I managed to get rid of 20 pages with that, but then I apparently hit some rate limit [15:21:46] it's like it really doesn't want to be correct :P