[06:53:53] <Rodejong>	 There seems to be a problem with {{#Property:P1559}}. 
[06:53:53] <Rodejong>	 I try to add P1559 to a biography, but it keeps turning. I don't have that with other propperties
[06:53:58] <Rodejong>	 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WUPDxYyh/
[06:54:08] <Rodejong>	 (I write in Danish)
[06:56:24] <Rodejong>	 hmmm P25 has the same problem :/
[06:58:05] <Rodejong>	 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CHe6g5y7/
[06:58:38] <Rodejong>	 I was able to add P26 but P26 isn't linked
[06:58:53] <Rodejong>	 Are there problems ?
[07:01:01] <Rodejong>	 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mnyf3ezJ/
[07:01:23] <Rodejong>	 added a language, but doesn't show. It is editable.
[07:02:01] <Rodejong>	 !admin Are there multiple issues?
[07:02:14] <Dereckson>	 Rodejong: yes, there are currently issues 
[07:02:21] <Rodejong>	 Ah okay
[07:02:27] <Dereckson>	 it's not only related to Wikidata, but to the whole cluster
[07:02:41] <Rodejong>	 Hmmm :/
[07:02:55] <Rodejong>	 Okay, I'll be patient then
[08:18:42] <Auregann_WMDE>	 Rodejong: Hello, I tried to reproduce the problems you mentioned, but  nothing special occurs. Do you still encounter these troubles?
[08:20:08] <Rodejong>	 No, sorry. There were problems on all wiki's - #Wikimedia-tech have resolved these problems already. So no more problems
[08:20:20] <Rodejong>	 Sorry for not reporting back
[08:21:06] <Rodejong>	 Auregann_WMDE: Hope it didn't cost too much of your time?
[08:22:22] <Alphos>	 far too much. do you have any idea how slow Auregann_WMDE types ? she started typing that sentence when you first mentionned having an issue 90 minutes ago ! :p
[08:22:27] <Auregann_WMDE>	 Rodejong: no, don't worry :) thanks
[08:22:29] * Alphos ducks and covers :p
[08:22:54] <Rodejong>	 LOL - whahaha
[08:23:01] <Alphos>	 by the way Auregann_WMDE : pwet :)
[08:23:03] * Rodejong ducks too
[08:27:10] * Auregann_WMDE pwet Alphos
[08:28:58] <Alphos>	 i'm hesitating : should i wake up first, or try and implement a wikidata script to push french cantons to P3179 instead of P131 ?
[08:37:06] <Alphos>	 oh for chrissakes, russian wikipedians are hounding me over replacing missing P131:french département they removed from communes…
[09:26:36] <Rodejong>	 Those Russians ey? :D
[09:47:37] <Alphos>	 tell me about it >_>
[09:48:29] <Alphos>	 battling on two fronts, saying the same thing more than once, and no time to actually research/write the script to make the necessary changes to french administrative subdivisions' ontology -_-"
[09:49:10] <Alphos>	 two fronts : russian village pump on wikidata, wikidata village pump on ruwiki. because of course -_-"
[09:51:52] <Auregann_WMDE>	 Hello there :) Do you know which users are involved in including Wikidata data on Wikipedia? (such as: creating infoboxes or other templates)
[09:52:44] <Rodejong>	 I do
[09:53:23] <Rodejong>	 On Danish Wikipedia we have lots of infoboxes completely dependent on Wikipedia
[09:54:44] <Rodejong>	 Auregann_WMDE: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skabelon:Infoboks_Wikidata_person/test
[09:55:06] <Auregann_WMDE>	 Rodejong: cool :)
[09:55:21] <Auregann_WMDE>	 We will work on this topic during the documentation sprint of the hackathon
[09:55:45] <Auregann_WMDE>	 especially creating a tutorial "how to create my first infobox (using Wikidata) on Wikipedia" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164464
[09:55:46] <Rodejong>	 Okay. We're still debating the Social Mediabuttons though.
[09:56:03] <Rodejong>	 Some are against it
[09:56:11] <Auregann_WMDE>	 Rodejong: Oh, I imagine that
[09:56:26] <Rodejong>	 But it has been there for a month or two
[09:56:56] <Rodejong>	 The main thing is that users want to keep the control on Wikipedia
[09:57:14] <Rodejong>	 So they want to decide if Wikidata kan be shown on each article
[09:57:44] <Rodejong>	 So we had to build in a switch, where each parameter can be put in if it is not wanted to be shown
[09:58:15] <Auregann_WMDE>	 Rodejong: I see
[09:58:53] <sjoerddebruin>	 Not only the documentation itself can use improvement btw, finding it is also important. ;)
[09:59:06] <Rodejong>	 Yeah
[09:59:31] <Rodejong>	 https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skabelon:Infoboks_Wikidata_person
[09:59:44] <Rodejong>	 I build this infobox for general biographies
[10:00:28] <Rodejong>	 Look then at https://da.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Gates&action=edit
[10:02:17] <Rodejong>	 {{infoboks Wikidata person|wikidata=alle|ingen_wikidata=religion
[10:02:17] <Rodejong>	 "wikidata=alle" (all parameters can be pulled from Wikidata)
[10:02:17] <Rodejong>	 "ingen_wikidata=religion" (the info from parameter "religion" is not pulled)
[10:03:20] <Rodejong>	 I have worked on this since september, with loads of debates (still ongoing) 
[10:05:29] <Rodejong>	 We have a simple enough Module, and some templates to make the editing easier (like https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skabelon:Wikidata-streng }}
[10:11:57] <Rodejong>	 Auregann_WMDE: You could ask Dipsacus Fullonum for 
[10:11:57] <Rodejong>	 LUA and templates as he wrote these. I use his templates. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Dipsacus_fullonum 
[10:14:00] <Auregann_WMDE>	 Rodejong: thanks for these informations!
[10:14:13] <Rodejong>	 You're welcome
[11:19:49] <planemad>	 would be great to get the help of more language translators to review these translations https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Planemad_mapbox/World_places_translation_project
[11:21:09] <Rodejong>	 Question: 
[11:21:09] <Rodejong>	 We have projects on the Danish language Wikipedia. Normaly we have the templates on the discussion page (like on ENWP). 
[11:21:09] <Rodejong>	 There has been a vote to remove them from the discussionpages, and we're looking for a way to use alternatives. 
[11:21:09] <Rodejong>	 Q:
[11:21:09] <Rodejong>	 The question is: Is it possible to connect pages in a database on Wikidata. For example: Project-properties "P" with the articles as "Q" and qualifiers (like Stub, start, good, promising and excelent) 
[11:21:09] <Rodejong>	 Why?
[11:21:09] <Rodejong>	 Se for example https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:London which has 5 templates that say that the article is a "Good Article". But it falls under 5 projects. It should be possible for Wikidata to host the status of each article of a project on the various Wiki's. 
[11:21:10] <Rodejong>	 For example: 
[11:21:10] <Rodejong>	 London falls under the scope of several projects. So The Wikidata article of London should get a property: Project - The Qualifier should then be Olympic Games, London, Cycling, Hanse, etc. The Danish Wikipedia would then place that article under a Qualifier like Status: "Good Article". 
[11:21:11] <Rodejong>	 Could this be achieved? I know that each wiki has it's own projects, but it would be beneficial for each wiki to compare.
[11:21:11] <Rodejong>	 I hope to receive some positive thoughts. 
[12:05:31] <Alphos>	 i could use a little input on my query : http://tinyurl.com/mzkqeut this should get all P131 statements from a french commune to a french canton, and if qualifiers are present on those statements, it should get those qualifiers as well, right ?
[12:07:23] <Alphos>	 where's WikidataFacts when you need 'em ? :D
[12:25:33] <Auregann_WMDE>	 Alphos: here -> Lucas_WMDE  ;)
[12:26:17] <Alphos>	 i had no idea they were one and the same :o
[12:27:00] <Alphos>	 Lucas_WMDE : would you mind having a look ? i could use a little input on my query : http://tinyurl.com/mzkqeut this should get all P131 statements from a french commune to a french canton, and if qualifiers are present on those statements, it should get all those qualifiers as well and nothing else, right ?
[12:27:29] <Alphos>	 i really gotta scoot before my brain overheats, but i should be back within 1 or 2 hours
[12:44:04] <Rodejong>	 Question: 
[12:44:04] <Rodejong>	 We have projects on the Danish language Wikipedia. Normaly we have the templates on the discussion page (like on ENWP). 
[12:44:04] <Rodejong>	 There has been a vote to remove them from the discussionpages, and we're looking for a way to use alternatives. 
[12:44:04] <Rodejong>	 Q:
[12:44:04] <Rodejong>	 The question is: Is it possible to connect pages in a database on Wikidata. For example: Project-properties "P" with the articles as "Q" and qualifiers (like Stub, start, good, promising and excelent) 
[12:44:13] <Rodejong>	 Why?
[12:44:13] <Rodejong>	 Se for example https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:London which has 5 templates that say that the article is a "Good Article". But it falls under 5 projects. It should be possible for Wikidata to host the status of each article of a project on the various Wiki's. 
[12:44:21] <Rodejong>	 For example: 
[12:44:21] <Rodejong>	 London falls under the scope of several projects. So The Wikidata article of London should get a property: Project - The Qualifier should then be Olympic Games, London, Cycling, Hanse, etc. The Danish Wikipedia would then place that article under a Qualifier like Status: "Good Article". 
[12:44:25] <Rodejong>	 Could this be achieved? I know that each wiki has it's own projects, but it would be beneficial for each wiki to compare.
[12:44:25] <Rodejong>	 I hope to receive some positive thoughts. 
[12:45:12] <Auregann_WMDE>	 Rodejong: for such a question, I would suggest to ask on the Project Chat :)
[12:45:25] <Rodejong>	 Do you have a link for me?
[12:45:31] <Auregann_WMDE>	 You'll get more input and this place is more appropriate for discussion
[12:45:39] <Auregann_WMDE>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat
[12:45:47] <Rodejong>	 thanks. 
[12:45:51] <Rodejong>	 I'll do that then
[12:50:39] <Lucas_WMDE>	 Alphos: sorry, I was busy – yes, that query looks correct to me according to your description
[12:51:43] <Lucas_WMDE>	 provided you know that ?cantonType will always be one of those two VALUES, and never anything else (e. g. a subclass)
[12:52:25] <Lucas_WMDE>	 okay, small change – use p:P31/ps:P31/wdt:P279* instead of wdt:P31/wdt:P279* in line 2, then you get 12 more results apparently
[12:52:41] <Lucas_WMDE>	 presumably ones that have something like “instance of: big city” with preferred rank and “instance of: commune of france” with normal rank
[14:18:50] <Alphos>	 Lucas_WMDE thanks :)
[14:22:26] <Lucas_WMDE>	 Alphos: you’re welcome :)
[14:23:25] <Alphos>	 working on communes with a preferred rank, actually mostly recently created "communes nouvelles" (a status in a by itself)
[21:14:07] <multichill>	 Amir1: No performance issues, right? Bot purged about 1 million items now
[21:14:27] <Amir1>	 let me check
[21:15:12] <Amir1>	 multichill: looks just fine
[21:17:38] <multichill>	 Amir1: Got quite a few hick ups while purging to lower Qid's, now none at all
[21:20:16] <Amir1>	 it was probably because of the datacenter switchover
[21:20:31] <Amir1>	 now we are on good ol' eqiad with great database
[21:47:43] <Alphos>	 WikidataFacts i ended up with that : http://tinyurl.com/n3hnpfl ^_^
[21:49:53] <WikidataFacts>	 Alphos: cool!
[21:50:31] <WikidataFacts>	 what’s the GROUP BY for if you’re not selecting any non-grouped expressions?
[21:50:40] <Alphos>	 DISTINCT
[21:50:52] <WikidataFacts>	 DISTINCT doesn’t require GROUP BY
[21:50:55] <Alphos>	 oh ?
[21:51:07] <WikidataFacts>	 isn’t it the other way around? GROUP BY all variables is the same as DISTINCT, I think
[21:51:15] <Alphos>	 true
[21:51:28] <Alphos>	 (true about not requiring it)
[21:51:58] <Alphos>	 as for the rest, i finished it about 4 hours ago, brain has been shutting down since XD
[21:52:58] <Alphos>	 next step : publish on github and request a bot flag for a (almost) single-purpose bot, then transfer all the P131:canton to P3179 :)
[21:53:48] <Alphos>	 (only way to get consistency while retaining correctness for those relations - it's what P3179 was created for, even though i would have preferred a specific property)
[21:56:28] <Alphos>	 the bot will have other purposes of course, mostly the same kind, related to wikiproject france ^^