[10:15:40] Amir1: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/348701 [10:16:12] Thiemo_WMDE: [10:16:13] nice, I +2 it right now (waiting for jenkins) [10:16:15] Thanks [10:19:16] +2'd [10:30:34] Thiemo_WMDE: https://packagist.org/packages/data-values/value-view says it's 0.19.0 how it gets updated? [10:42:56] Found it, nvm [12:17:07] Hi all, somebody is reverting many connections I made between Commons categories and articles. Is this standard policy? [12:17:13] This is an example https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q27556622&action=history [12:19:46] ellywa: I have just prodded the bear on that edit, let us see what happens [12:20:40] Oké, thanks. I will wait and see what happens. sDrewthedoff [12:21:50] ellywa: a gallery will always take precedence over a category [12:22:10] though as per my comment, there is no likelihoo of a gallery [12:22:19] and to me galleries at Commons are crap [12:22:23] thats oké. But this adds a link to al wikipedia pages... [12:22:29] and I am an admin at Commons! [12:22:42] sure, I know exactly what it does [12:22:42] I agree they are crap (most of the time). Too much handwork... [12:23:08] also note that a category link can be removed if there is a Category: item to where it will be moved [12:24:02] nice to meet you.. I work a lot of commons, but do not know all admins, sorry [12:24:32] meh, not to worry, I keep out of that limelight [12:25:07] <- plugs away in lots of places [12:29:36] who can help here with Petscan as I seem completely devoid of the capability to add items through its capability [12:29:53] https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=885707&al_commands=%22p734%3AQ29470680%22 [12:30:29] I run the query, have it "process" the claims and it ticks through them, BUT nothing is added to the items in WD [12:58:51] sDrewthedoff: can you please look again, the user on Commons points to an old discussion about these links? [13:15:25] ellywa: I will keep whacking until they listen [13:15:36] I dislike parrot squawing [13:15:55] :-) [13:16:24] there are many many many uncountable of these links I assume... sDrewthedoff [13:17:43] ellywa: For Wikisources it is the primary linking that we do [13:18:04] we don't create stinking galleries for works of authors, or for illustrators [13:18:34] p;us when we extract the images of a work, they just categorised, we don't want a gallery, come and look at them in the book!!!! [13:18:37] plus [13:19:12] the book at WS is a far better contextual gallery then some artificial time consuming manual construction [13:22:58] Cathegories are indeed far more efficient and versitalie than galleries or lists. [14:07:14] o dear sDrewthedoff, we scared the squirrel so much, he left (again) [14:07:58] so now I will redo the links... thanks for your help. Although it is a pity that he feels its a mess. [14:12:06] ellywa: we are all entitled to an opinion, and in the end we go with community consensus, and which is why I just keep pushing a discussion in project chat, in the end that is what will reflect current consensus [14:12:25] :-) [14:12:53] I appreciate your calmness and persistence! [14:13:07] if I "lose" a discussion there, so be it, I have had an opportunity to express my point of view [14:13:17] calm? I was getting grumpy :-/ [15:28:51] Lydia_WMDE: can you test with me then? The question is also if the item is still editable after adding the link. [15:29:09] sjoerddebruin: meep [15:29:10] yes [15:29:15] here and ready :D [15:29:29] Well, I can't save either. [15:29:43] whut? [15:29:54] Amir1 said stewards should be able to bypass the blacklist [15:30:09] hmmmm [15:30:18] Let me check the permissions. [15:32:31] Declined https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T36928 [15:34:44] sjoerddebruin: meh. i can't see why it was declined and by whom [15:35:59] Yeah. :( [15:38:40] * Lydia_WMDE waits for Amir1 to come back [15:38:45] sjoerddebruin: thanks for checking [15:39:21] But still, an exception for sysops or stewards won't work as people always save the whole page (on Wikipedia and Wikidata), aka making the page un-editable for most people. [18:05:17] From the search window can you still search by prepending a namespace, such as: P: subproperty of ? [18:09:33] I think so yeahn [19:55:58] Hello [19:56:06] I need help with deleting entries [20:19:10] hi multichill [20:48:47] Hello [21:38:43] Lydia_WMDE et al, I recently started work on T51315 (originally as a task connected the Collaboration team's Edit Review Improvements work, before seeing it was a duplicate). I'm planning to implement it consistent with the tentative spec, there, but let me know if you think this needs to be revisited or want to discuss now. [21:38:44] T51315: [Story] record wikibase recent change entries attributed as non-anon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51315 [21:38:50] Otherwise, I'll continue and add Wikibase people for review when it's ready. [22:16:24] What's the cause of the change propagation lag locally?: [22:16:25] 22:15:26 Posted 3 changes to enwiki, up to ID 9, timestamp 20170418220928. Lag is 358 seconds. Next ID is 11. [22:16:29] Anything I can do to reduce that? [23:19:16] BTW, someone might want to point out to whoever is doing the weekly news that the way the formatting was changed breaks the TOC on talk pages... [23:20:31] a la https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Revent [23:21:06] I probably won’t archive correctly, either. [23:21:08] *It.