[08:07:45] <Auregann_WMDE>	 Hello! And thanks to everyone who submitted a talk regarding Wikidata for Wikimania :)
[12:20:38] <hasharLunch>	 jakob_WMDE: Guten Tag. I have no idea how you managed to find the Qunit failure for WikibaseLexeme :-}
[12:27:34] <jakob_WMDE>	 hashar: hello! the fact that I wrote the test that broke it may have helped a little :)
[12:31:13] <hashar>	 jakob_WMDE: most probably yeah ;;-}
[12:31:32] <hashar>	 I guess the QUnit framework should save/restore variables between tests
[12:32:53] <jakob_WMDE>	 that would be nice indeed
[17:45:33] <SMalyshev>	 I see that https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_deployment is pretty much  dead. Is there an up-to-date version somewhere?
[17:47:35] <andre__>	 ...might just be https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.29/Roadmap in these days?
[17:47:47] <andre__>	 (if so that page should say so, indeed)
[18:00:21] <SMalyshev>	 andre__: that is mediawiki one, wikidata used to have its own one
[20:01:43] <multichill>	 SMalyshev: Did you notice https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2017-April/010501.html the other day?
[20:02:35] <SMalyshev>	 multichill: nope. Good pointers, will read
[20:02:58] <SMalyshev>	 if Wikimedia generally frowns upon NC/ND clauses, then we should not include them too I guess. 
[20:03:19] <multichill>	 SMalyshev: I'll say it stronger, you're violating the terms of use
[20:03:38] <SMalyshev>	 though data is a bit trickier...
[20:03:40] <multichill>	 (if you include NC/ND)
[20:03:46] <SMalyshev>	 multichill: why? I don't think we'd violate NC
[20:04:15] <SMalyshev>	 ND is kinda iffy since querying is not exactly creating a new DB
[20:05:06] <multichill>	 It's the other way around, we say to our re-users: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use#7._Licensing_of_Content
[20:05:25] <multichill>	 That's not true any more if you start including non-free content
[20:06:51] <SMalyshev>	 multichill: that section has a lot of refs to original license, basically placing the compliance on the re-user
[20:09:25] <multichill>	 Hey, don't say I didn't warn you. If you mess up with the licenses, you'll get burned. Have seen that happen to good faith people several times and it isn't fun. Wikimedians are allergic to non-free content
[20:10:28] <SMalyshev>	 multichill: but what we're working with is federation, so it's trickier since we are not hosting that content, only enabling to access it via query...
[20:10:41] <SMalyshev>	 I have no idea frankly what happens in this case
[20:10:55] <SMalyshev>	 I'm fine with just not dealing with NC/ND for now.
[20:11:23] <multichill>	 Just put the legal deparment to work so you're sure you got it covered
[20:12:21] <SMalyshev>	 multichill: yeah I asked legal but it takes time... so I'll just say non NC/ND for now
[20:12:59] <multichill>	 Legal is actually run by slugs, never been to their office? ;-)
[20:13:12] <SMalyshev>	 heh :)
[20:31:57] <Envlh>	 SMalyshev: thanks a lot for the new endpoints in federation :)
[20:39:03] <SMalyshev>	 Envlh: you are welcome :)
[21:46:06] <EvoMRI>	 Hi - anyone here? 
[21:46:32] <EvoMRI>	 I'm trying to help a Wikidata hackathon get over what we think might be an IP ban.
[21:47:01] <EvoMRI>	 what I know about this is at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Can_anyone_here_help_sort_out_presumed_IP_ban_for_ongoing_Wikidata_hackathon_in_Suriname.3F
[21:47:01] <quiddity>	 cf. https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2017-April/010580.html
[21:47:45] <JD|cloud>	 EvoMRI: go to #wikimedia-tech
[21:47:49] <quiddity>	 ah, Jasper has replied, asking he ping in IRC. I don't know who specifically though...
[21:47:53] <Reedy>	 It's not an IP ban
[21:47:56] <JD|cloud>	 ^
[21:48:01] <JD|cloud>	 it's the usual throttle
[21:48:10] <EvoMRI>	 what is it then, and how to move things forward?
[21:48:24] <EvoMRI>	 not sure what the usual throttle is
[21:48:27] <JD|cloud>	 anonymous users are by default limited to 6 accounts per day per IP
[21:48:38] <JD|cloud>	 so you have to ask for it to be raised temporarily
[21:48:48] <EvoMRI>	 where to ask?
[21:54:27] <EvoMRI>	 I have asked over at https://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?url=irc%3A%2F%2Firc.freenode.net%2Fwikimedia-stewards but got no response so far.
[21:54:34] <EvoMRI>	 Who else should I contact?
[21:58:02] <EvoMRI>	 I pinged wikimedia-tech as well (both via mailing list and IRC)
[22:23:20] <EvoMRI>	 I have now also asked on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162751
[22:35:24] <andre__>	 EvoMRI: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation#Requesting_temporary_lift_of_IP_cap
[22:36:14] <EvoMRI>	 @andre__ yes, but this points here
[22:36:29] <andre__>	 EvoMRI: where?
[22:36:48] <andre__>	 EvoMRI: what points to the #wikidata channel exactly?
[22:37:01] <andre__>	 EvoMRI: #wikimedia-tech is where to ask
[22:37:09] <EvoMRI>	 ah, oops - I thought I was on the wikimedia-tech channel
[22:37:17] <EvoMRI>	 which I have open in another irc tab
[22:37:24] <EvoMRI>	 always confused by the irc interface...
[22:37:35] <andre__>	 EvoMRI, in any case, data such as IP address is needed.
[22:37:47] <andre__>	 just for your info, for #wikimedia-tech
[22:38:19] <EvoMRI>	 yes, I've filed what I know - see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Can_anyone_here_help_sort_out_presumed_IP_ban_for_ongoing_Wikidata_hackathon_in_Suriname.3F
[22:39:25] <andre__>	 (As I wrote in #wikimedia-tech , IP is needed)