[06:02:30] chasemp: yuvipanda: We're trying to do a graceful sunset. http://wdq.wmflabs.org/stats seems to be completely broken now. Is that because you shut down a vm? [06:04:33] multichill: the VM i shut down isn't related at all. it has also been unreachable for a year almost. it is where magnus ran wdq in a screen before we moved it to its own project [06:23:46] yuvipanda: Probably had a hidden second function? ;-) [06:24:26] multichill: it was mostly dead before I shut it down too [06:24:27] multichill: I can start it back up if you're curious [06:24:36] Anyway, maybe you can poke around a bit so that http://wdq.wmflabs.org/stats works again? Gives 504 time-out [06:24:59] multichill: no, sorry. I don't have the time to do that. [06:25:11] multichill: plus I don't know the code at all nor what it does, nor any C++ [06:25:37] You could just boot it up for a second and see if that page starts working again. Have to go to work so I won't be around [06:25:41] yeah [06:25:45] am going to do that now [09:51:20] 25 million items <3 [10:05:21] wooooo \o/ [10:16:51] Is there any way to reconcile fields to wikidata ids in openrefine? [10:17:18] and if not are there any other tools that would aid in doing this? [12:00:45] sjoerddebruin: do you know which was the 25 millionth item? [12:01:03] Ainali: nope [12:16:00] sjoerddebruin [12:16:03] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hcuGgDeU/ [12:16:20] Is er iets fout of ligt het aan mij? [12:16:31] Ik had het ook al op een pagina. [12:17:02] Ontwikkelaars zijn ermee bezig. [12:17:05] Ook via deze link? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GFJsuY7C/ [12:17:13] Aha okee [12:17:29] dan wacht ik het wel af [12:47:36] Amir1: twitter still seems to accept some tags, though https://dev.twitter.com/cards/markup [12:54:06] sjoerddebruin: Yup but all of them start with "twitter:" which means we need to duplicate lots of tags [12:54:30] Amir1: yep, but it still seems to have fallback for description, title and image. [12:54:31] That's the problem here [12:55:00] If it has a fallback it means we are okay [12:55:02] That's what I've wanted to say. [12:55:14] :) [12:55:25] Images would already a huge improvement for visablity of our links. [12:55:30] And it looks nice on chat apps. [12:55:58] definitely, If I can get the core patch merged, it'll be a piece of cake [12:59:02] Thiemo_WMDE: noticed that Special:GoToLinkedPage still seems to be used on Google. Is it time for more action yet or do you want to wait? [13:26:16] Amir1: https://gist.github.com/thiemowmde/1d67dad758789066f60509195d2d57b0 [13:26:53] Thanks Thiemo_WMDE ! [13:57:33] is there a way to force an update to a constraint report? as a hack, I could probably temporarily change the value of a statement? [16:01:33] Hi folks. Got a question - is it possible to add qualifiers to an alias (such as 'start time' and 'end time' to denote the period during which the alias was used)? [16:32:50] Hi folks. Got a question - is it possible to add qualifiers to an alias (such as 'start time' and 'end time' to denote the period during which the alias was used)? [16:57:00] LtPowers: you can't add info to aliases (or descriptions or labels), you would need to find an appropriate property and add a statement [16:57:04] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P742 might work [17:15:23] Lydia_WMDE: Is someone from WMDE coming to Cambridge for the presentation of the WSDM-wikidata cup? [17:24:59] nikki: I'm thinking like former names for a stadium or other establishment. I couldn't find a "former name" property but aliases don't allow qualifiers. [17:25:55] I think https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1448 with dates as qualifiers would work for that [17:25:55] LtPowers: I think the consensus is to do time with qualifiers [17:26:26] So no property names with future, former, past, upcoming etc .... [17:26:53] yeah [17:28:22] The problems of this data structure are then in the query results. New Amsterdam as an old name for new York is both equally true [17:29:05] tobias47n9e: the current statement should have preferred rank to mitigate that [17:31:23] WikidataFacts: true. The real world issue with that is that the rank is not always set [17:34:58] I understand using qualifiers for time-dependent statements, and that works fine except for names, because they're apparently special. "Official name" might work. Are there any examples I can look at? [17:36:06] And should I still put all the old names in as aliases in addition to "official name"s with qualifiers? [17:43:02] LtPowers: I would say yes. The label + description and aliases are good for searching and finding items. [17:46:10] tarrow: me [17:46:20] i'm giving a keynote [18:12:09] Lydia_WMDE: If you're free one evening would you like to get dinner with some of the CM team? [18:12:30] tarrow: sure [18:14:31] Lydia_WMDE: Cool, let me know which evening around then you have free; I don't live in Cambridge but I was going to pop up around then anyway; I guess you're there at least 9th and 10th? [18:14:56] i have not booked my tickets and hotel ydet [18:15:02] still need to figure it out [18:15:06] what would be best for you? [18:15:14] can you send me a calendar invite for that? [18:15:24] then i'll see and make that happen [18:15:33] i have no other plans so far so you are free to chcoose [18:16:01] ok cool; will do :) [18:18:19] thanks :) [18:45:35] hi, there was a great tool to create multiple wikidata items/statements based on a text field, and i cannot find it for some reason [18:45:46] just one text field, and i say what to create [18:46:20] http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/quick_statements.php ? [18:46:50] thanks Stryn !!! [18:55:48] bummer, i cannot login into petscan for some reason - it gives me a link to login with WiDaR, i click "allow", and it redirects me to the main WiDaR page [18:55:55] anyone having this problem? [19:00:06] yurik: yes it redirects you to WiDaR main page, but at the same time it also authorizes you, and you can use petscan after refreshing the petscan page [19:00:27] reloading* [20:23:02] Hey Lydia_WMDE, I'm looking at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151717#2966462 [20:23:16] It's the ticket about implementing statement usage tracking on Wikidata clients. [20:23:46] (just realized it's a little late, I hope you're having a nice evening) [20:24:26] jynus suggested we consider hosting the statement tracking on a non MW server -- that would mean we can't join to MW tables. This would affect some client integrations. [20:24:41] If you have time in the morning, would you mind responding with your thoughts on that ticket? [21:15:01] Lydia_WMDE: Why do we allow sitelinks to wiki's that are closed and locked down? [21:18:32] I guess because the wiki could theoretically be reopened [21:19:04] what I don't understand is why closed wikis are kept after the data's been imported to the incubator [21:19:32] I don't understand why we move the data to the incubator [21:19:48] so that people can edit it and turn it into a viable wiki [21:20:36] https://nl.wikinews.org/wiki/Hoofdpagina is just a piece of shit [21:20:53] Couple of years it was useful for keeping the trolls busy [21:21:00] Now it should just be deleted [21:21:32] Wikidata polution [21:24:00] https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page is what a failed project looks like. Should have been kicked out of the Wikimedia family a long time ago [21:44:45] a few wikinews languages seem to be pretty alive, and en/ru/sr are among them [21:45:24] two years ago I created/filled a lot of wikidata-items for them, so they wouldn't pop up in the wikidata-game no more [21:47:49] but what we lack are people that will edit the P921 [21:48:27] right now 2506 items are connected by item ... so reasonator can show them where they are relevant [21:49:03] but for 207154 wikinews items that score is rather low... just 1%