[09:38:20] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hm? https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1060317&type=revision&diff=412435188&oldid=412435181
[10:55:42] <Jonas_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE SpecialSearchResultsAppend
[10:58:45] <Jonas_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-testextension-php55-composer/6399/console
[11:26:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Amir1: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151993
[11:29:46] <Amir1>	 DanielK_WMDE: fascinating, thanks 
[11:30:37] <Ramignon>	 hi
[11:32:17] <andre__>	 hi Ramignon
[11:32:52] <Ramignon>	 can someone merge Q14954493 and Q3107773  ? they are the same thing (Lacq natural gas field in southern France)
[11:34:05] <hoo>	 sjoerddebruin: Not sure you saw it, but tonight I've updated the suggester
[11:41:50] <Jonas_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Reviewers
[12:11:41] <sjoerddebruin>	 If you're using Firefox: https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/11/emergency-bulletin-firefox-0-day-wild/
[12:44:23] <andre__>	 sjoerddebruin: that's on MS Windows only?
[12:53:11] <sjoerddebruin>	 andre__: Oh yes, it seems so.
[14:40:49] <multichill>	 edoderoo: Do you also do labels in English? I have quite a few painters who could use a label in English
[14:41:02] <multichill>	 Erhm, description
[15:05:10] <nikki>	 multichill: you're an admin on commons so I assume you know more about conventions there than me :) I noticed some descriptions are tagged as the wrong language (like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lin_An_Tai_Historical_House_02.jpg has chinese, not twi), I don't need to do anything other than change the language code, right?
[15:11:04] <multichill>	 nikki: Yes, just change "tw" to the correct language code
[15:11:18] <nikki>	 thanks
[15:11:23] <multichill>	 Taiwanese Chinese? Does that have it's own language code?
[15:12:46] <andre__>	 zh_TW I thought.
[15:12:59] <multichill>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Zh-tw&redirect=no redirects
[15:19:37] <nikki>	 oh
[15:19:50] <nikki>	 I used zh-tw, at least it's better than before, because it's definitely not twi
[15:23:59] <nikki>	 I wonder why some people seem to think that every weird edit must be vandalism...
[15:25:28] <nikki>	 nobody ever makes honest mistakes or accidentally triggers a gadget or accidentally clicks somewhere, nooo
[16:17:35] <multichill>	 nikki: A lot of good faith mistakes happening mixed with vandalism. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hideliu=1&namespace=120 gives a nice overview :P
[16:19:10] <nikki>	 yeah
[16:28:07] <nikki>	 I found it particularly weird because it was my edit that someone undid... I don't expect everyone to know me (would be weird if they did) but I've commented on that person's talk page a few times
[16:29:52] <multichill>	 That's sure weird. I sometimes do an undo to ping someone, but always with an edit summary explaining why
[16:44:14] <nikki>	 I wonder if the descriptions on commons will become monolingual text statements once commons has the structured data stuff
[16:46:19] <nikki>	 I haven't been paying much attention to the development of that, but it seems like the most obvious option
[16:50:12] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nikki: probably not statements, but descriptions as we have them for items. But longer. And maybe supporting (very limited) markup. Maybe.
[16:50:43] <DanielK_WMDE>	 We could also support statements for "sourced" descriptions, e.g. descriptions coming from an archive. These would probably be monolingual text
[16:53:47] <nikki>	 ah
[17:09:10] <multichill>	 DanielK_WMDE: Fun to see this being restarted :-)
[17:09:33] <multichill>	 Hope the grant will work out 
[17:10:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 indeed!
[17:10:26] <DanielK_WMDE>	 it's a bit of a stretch to work on that and wiktionary at the same time. but it's fun!
[17:11:00] <multichill>	 You got quite a bit of foundation work done this year for Commons, right?
[17:12:01] <multichill>	 And for artworks we already made quite a few Wikidata links. 
[17:12:51] <multichill>	 Had to stop the bot that made the connections and suggestions because the SQL queries started timing out :-(
[17:13:02] <DanielK_WMDE>	 foundation work on MediaWiki, mostly. not so much for wikibase
[17:13:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 for wikibase, wiktionary is a lot more challanging
[17:13:42] <DanielK_WMDE>	 well, we do need wikibase federation for commons. but we want that anyway, for 3rd parties
[17:14:10] <multichill>	 The federation of wikibases! ;-)
[17:16:30] <DanielK_WMDE>	 the basis of wikibases!
[17:19:34] <nikki>	 huh... I'm finding a lot of strange language combinations on commons...
[17:19:58] <nikki>	 like just now I saw dutch marked as inuktitut
[17:30:02] <Nemo_bis>	 nikki: "marked as"?
[17:30:28] <nikki>	 using the language templates, so {{ike-latn|some dutch description}}
[17:30:29] <AsimovBot>	 10[1] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:ike%2Dlatn
[17:30:46] <nikki>	 which then appears as "Inuktitut: some dutch description"
[17:34:57] <nikki>	 here's an example: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:J%C4%93zus_eva%C5%86%C4%A3%C4%93liski_luterisk%C4%81_bazn%C4%ABca.jpg
[17:35:21] <nikki>	 that looks like latvian to me (which would fit, given that it's a picture of a building in latvia)
[17:37:04] <nikki>	 and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mesa_de_la_Legi%C3%B3n_Americana.jpg looks like spanish
[17:58:00] <WikidataFacts>	 does anyone know what the t in wdt: stands for?
[17:58:17] <WikidataFacts>	 the prefix resolves to /prop/direct, so it’s probably not an abbreviation of that
[17:58:30] <WikidataFacts>	 the only potential candidate I found on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/RDF_Dump_Format is “truthy”, but that sounds weird
[18:00:09] <nikki>	 it excludes deprecated values and prefers preferred values, so it doesn't seem implausible to me
[18:00:30] <nikki>	 but someone like SMalyshev is more likely to know for sure
[18:00:52] <WikidataFacts>	 yeah, but I’ve always thought about that as more of a side feature – the main one is that it directly links subject to object in a single triple :D
[18:04:59] <SMalyshev>	 WikidataFacts: wdt: is "truthy", yes
[18:05:06] <WikidataFacts>	 okay, good to know, thanks :)
[18:33:25] <TomT0m>	 hi, SPARQL question : I want to compare dates in the query http://tinyurl.com/zlvterr
[18:34:37] <TomT0m>	 however it seems the date comparison always fail for a reason I don't understand. I checked the datatype of date and it's xsd:dateTime, something SPARQL is supposed to be able to compare
[18:34:43] <TomT0m>	 I'm stuck ...
[18:35:55] <TomT0m>	 (the goal is to be able to compute the rank of an event in a sequence of events)
[18:40:54] <WikidataFacts>	 TomT0m: subqueries can’t see the variables of outer queries (http://tinyurl.com/jpwvavj), they’re evaluated inside-out
[18:41:07] <WikidataFacts>	 so ?date is unbound in that comparison
[18:48:03] <TomT0m>	 WikidataFacts, thanks !
[18:48:48] <WikidataFacts>	 TomT0m: I think this is closer to what you need: http://tinyurl.com/zhlu2ey
[18:48:54] <WikidataFacts>	 though the results are still rather underwhelming
[18:49:12] <WikidataFacts>	 but that’s just because of lacking data, I think (most seasons don’t have P31 Premier League)
[18:50:30] <TomT0m>	 yep
[18:50:53] <TomT0m>	 I tried something with P155 I'll adapt
[18:51:35] <WikidataFacts>	 “instance of: sports season” with “part of: premier league” seems more appropriate IMO… most of the other ones seem to have the former but not the latter
[18:51:50] <WikidataFacts>	 or I guess you could do wdt:P155* from the first league, yeah
[18:57:06] <TomT0m>	 WikidataFacts, the subquery is useless : http://tinyurl.com/zx4p6f3
[18:57:43] <WikidataFacts>	 good point :D
[21:02:28] <SMalyshev>	 DanielK_WMDE__: ping?
[21:12:32] <JeroenDeDauw>	 .
[22:34:58] <rvita>	 Hi, I work at iedb.org and we have a great deal of data that we would like to batch load into wikidata. I could not find info on how to do this via the help.
[22:37:50] <multichill>	 rvita: That's great to hear!
[22:38:11] <multichill>	 On https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Data_donation you can find some information
[22:38:33] <mutante>	 sounds cool
[22:38:43] <mutante>	 maybe it would be best if you write that on the mailing list
[22:38:50] <mutante>	 people are in different timezones etc
[22:38:59] <mutante>	 there is "wikidata" and also 'wikidata-tech"
[22:39:01] * multichill makes a happy dance
[22:39:12] <multichill>	 Yeah, finally got the image finder bot online again :-D
[22:39:37] <mutante>	 rvita: maybe you'd like https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata   https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech
[22:40:33] <mutante>	 multichill: that sounds cool too, congrats
[22:40:50] <multichill>	 mutante: I can finally remove the broken notice from https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Image_suggestions
[22:40:57] <rvita>	 ok, looking at the page. our data is easily formated into spreadsheets
[22:41:14] <multichill>	 And https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BotMultichill is catching up with all the missing links
[22:42:27] <rvita>	 is it possible to send a test spreadsheet of a small sample to a person there to work with us?
[22:44:11] <rvita>	 many of our data annotations have external ontology identifiers that we want to ensure are joined to the proper term
[22:45:39] <rvita>	 we also want to automate updating the data as part of our weekly build process