[05:06:10] <[[Cameron]]> > [08:15:12] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150512 please help [16:59:30] DanielK_WMDE: if lemmas are based on terms, does that mean the languages available for lemmas will be the same as the languages available for terms? [17:08:02] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23644785 duplicate? [17:15:55] https://query.wikidata.org/#%23%20Formes%20f%C3%A9minines%20de%20noms%20%20manquantes%20pour%20des%20occupations%20exerc%C3%A9es%20par%20des%20femmes%20class%C3%A9es%20par%20ordre%20d%C3%A9croissant%20d%27occurences%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%28count%28%3Fitem%29%20as%20%3Fnb%29%20%0AWHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP106%20%3Fitem%20.%0A%20%20%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP21%20wd%3AQ6581072%20.%20%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279%2a%20wd%3AQ286 [17:15:55] 40%20.%0A%20%20FILTER%20NOT%20EXISTS%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20%20wdt%3AP2521%20%3FFormeFeminine.%0A%20%20%20%20filter%20%28lang%28%3FFormeFeminine%29%20%3D%20%22fr%22%29%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22fr%2Cen%2Car%2Cbe%2Cbg%2Cbn%2Cca%2Ccs%2Cda%2Cde%2Cel%2Ces%2Cet%2Cfa%2Cfi%2Che%2Chi%2Chu%2Chy%2Cid%2Cit%2Cja%2Cjv%2Cko%2Cnb%2Cnl%2Ceo%2Cpa%2Cpl%2Cpt%2Cro%2Cru%2Csh%2Csk [17:15:56] %2Csr%2Csv%2Csw%2Cte%2Cth%2Ctr%2Cuk%2Cyue%2Cvec%2Cvi%2Czh%22%0A%20%20%7D%0A%7D%20group%20by%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%0Aorder%20by%20desc%28%3Fnb%29%20%0A [17:16:02] oops [17:16:21] http://tinyurl.com/jezgkwk [17:16:27] this is a big mess [17:21:23] what's messy about it? [17:21:42] and the one you linked looks like it could be a duplicate of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1414443 [18:09:36] sjoerddebruin: I guess you haven't worked on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/without_claims_by_site/nlwiki for some time? [18:11:04] multichil: two weeks probably, I've worked on Duplicity though [18:11:10] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/duplicity.php?wiki=nlwiki&mode=stats [18:17:16] Oh, nice! [18:20:16] sjoerddebruin: Are you planning to go to zero again? :-) [18:21:04] At some time. [18:21:10] Can't wait to see the 1500 mark be gone. [18:32:38] hello, quick question: can you use quickstatements to add the P973 (described at URL) using quickstatements? If so how do you format the URL so that it actually gets written in the target Q's statements? [18:33:41] I've tried putting the URL between double quotes but nothing happened [20:48:10] ESM^: That's how I would do it too! [20:49:22] Q123P973"http://....." [21:31:45] sjoerddebruin: A recursive query for all items without claims in https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Persoon is down to 811. We should be able to reduce that I guess? [21:32:04] Wondering what we would hit. [21:32:24] Note that there are some tricky ones, like categories about specific persons. [21:32:34] But if you post a list, I could do something... [21:34:36] https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=nl&project=wikipedia&depth=10&categories=Persoon&ns%5B0%5D=1&wpiu_no_statements=1&interface_language=en&active_tab=tab_wikidata&doit= [21:39:06] sjoerddebruin: Seems to be mostly quite difficult to model roles [21:39:18] hm? [23:12:55] thanks multichil, but it didn't work. It just jumped to the following statement, without an error message at all [23:14:48] ESM^: Dammit, https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4115189&type=revision&diff=405904503&oldid=405739838 works for me [23:17:29] http://tinyurl.com/hwumejl [23:17:45] how do I get a list of streets named after a person? [23:19:36] yannf: http://tinyurl.com/je7ecqv ? [23:19:46] (before you go offline too :P ) [23:20:15] ok, thanks [23:20:39] You were very close. I just had to do a small modification [23:21:31] You could do something recursive around street to also get squares, avenues, etc etc, but that might time out [23:24:19] yannf: Check out http://tinyurl.com/gqrcc6o , that also includes other types like bridges [23:26:16] Q79007 doesn't include avenues, squares, etc.? [23:26:56] isn't a generic Q for all places in a city? [23:28:16] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q79007 is a subclass of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34442 is a subclass of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q83620 is a subclass of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q294440 [23:28:21] That's the one I used [23:28:46] I would assume that most things like squares etc would subclass to that [23:29:28] I entered a few places, and I used Q79007 for everything :/ [23:30:24] it quite difficult to see the differences between streets/avenues/etc. [23:30:44] especially if we look in all countries [23:31:41] what look like a big avenue somewhere might look like a small street elsewhere ;) [23:36:43] multichil, and how do I specify that a property is missing? [23:37:21] P131 [23:37:49] all streets should have that, isn't? [23:39:11] I got something interesting: among 5673 streets named after a person, only 265 are named after a woman [23:39:56] in France [23:41:11] multichil, I am not alone to add every under Q79007: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9502 [23:41:19] this is a park [23:44:12] yannf: You can ask for all streets MINUS the streets that have P131 [23:46:12] yannf: http://tinyurl.com/hrbtv26 [23:46:47] ah thanks, that's what I was looking for [23:47:25] Concepts might differ depending on where you are [23:47:46] Instead of getting into huge modeling problems, it's usually easier to just subclass for something specific [23:48:06] Like we created https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q13423499 [23:48:16] <3 [23:48:32] multichil: you mean, country-specific subclasses? [23:48:43] yannf: I bet France has some sort of formal classification system for roads you can use ;-) [23:48:45] (or even more specific than country, perhaps? administrative subdivisions even?) [23:48:54] If needed, yes [23:48:59] sounds reasonable [23:49:04] Yeah, because the meaning can differ per country [23:49:07] That's why I created specific items for Flemish professors for example [23:50:03] We shouldn't go overboard, but in case of unclear meaning or possible conflicting meaning it's much better to create subclasses [23:50:44] multichil, ok, noted [23:52:11] AFAIK in France, the only "official" classification is who pay for the maintenance of the place (state, department, city, etc.) [23:52:15] sjoerddebruin: Didn't we have some bot classify everyone who taught at a university as a professor? [23:52:25] I don't know. [23:52:35] But the meaning of professor differs per country too. [23:53:59] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BotMultichill <- looks like my bot ran into the work of some other bot..... [23:54:32] Preparing for the wall?