[07:39:09] Another 50k statements have a prefered rank now. Curious. [07:39:47] Hm.... https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q20636399&diff=prev&oldid=395822250 [09:51:54] Fucking hell. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/Mandatory_constraints/Violations&action=history [10:27:19] I am working on documenting the wdqs result views and try to upload images via VE, but it shows me an error could somebody help me please [10:27:30] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Q3BaXFJq/ [10:28:00] You don't have a lot of edits on your account on Commons probably. [10:28:22] Your hitting an abuse filter because Commons is getting overloaded with copyvio thanks to this feature.] [10:32:16] Can I get around the abuse filter somehow? [10:33:04] Jonas_WMDE: You could try using the feature on test-wiki/beta-wiki? [10:33:37] (or I could perhaps give you some userright...) [10:33:58] Josve05a that would be nice! [10:34:16] This will make it so much faster [10:35:22] Hi guys! Is there anybody online who can provide me with information about fetching categories for properties, like displayed in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties ? [10:35:23] checking... [10:35:38] Jonas_WMDE: what's your username? [10:35:57] Josve05a User:Jonas_Kress_(WMDE) [10:38:03] hmm...not sure... [10:39:29] Jonas_WMDE: not sure if that does anything... [10:39:37] might need to recode the abuse filter... [10:40:18] Josve05a still running in an error :( [10:40:54] drats [10:41:08] Steinsplitter: ...you know abuse filters... [10:41:11] AlexK: There is an API for this. Does this help or should I help you finding it? [10:41:41] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/153 needs a !("confirmed" in user_groups) thingy.... [10:41:43] I found Hay's tools which does almost everything which I need, but it lacks this category information. Is there a specific field which I need to query? [10:43:54] AlexK: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=query&format=json&meta=siteinfo&siprop=general [10:44:26] This is usually what you need (and should use) when writing an external tool. [10:44:50] Okay, I will have a look, thanks [10:46:32] sorry Jonas_WMDE ....I can't dfigure abusefilters out.... [10:46:45] Jonas_WMDE: you can also just upload them on Commons itself in the mean time. [10:47:06] sjoerddebruin yes I am doing that but it takes 10x more time [10:47:17] Yup. :( [10:47:20] Josve05a do you know somebody I could poke? [10:47:34] Steinsplitter: when he is around... [10:48:33] More background info on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120867 [10:49:38] Jonas_WMDE: 40 subsribers, more than 100 comments. This VisualEditor upload feature is *burning*! https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120867 [10:50:01] Jonas_WMDE: hmm...Icould have figured something out... [10:50:14] Another example of bad communication between developers and the community. [10:50:16] try it now... [10:53:38] Jonas_WMDE: I may hve broken Commons now with my edit to the filters..not sure...so hopefully it worked [10:53:40] have* [10:54:54] sjoerddebruin: well, to be fair, it's very hard to get *any* reaction from people before deployment. on wikidata it's ok, but on wikipedia, you get feedback from maybe 5 people in advance - and from 500 upon deployment. [10:55:08] you kind of have to break stuff, nobody talks to you if you don't... [10:55:43] Yeah, I know this is a complicated situation. [10:57:14] But there were similar issues with mobile uploads in the past. Not sure how they could forget that. [10:57:47] * Josve05a grunts at mobile uploads [10:59:07] It's also just that the majority of the people is unaware about copyright situations. [11:00:18] ^ so why not just let user upload all image sin their hardrives, wth no copyright teaching beforehand :D ...great WMF.. [11:01:17] Josve05a now it is working! Thank you so much! [11:01:41] I think we should focus on learning people about copyright, licensing and attribution more. The MediaViewer is already an improvement, but people still don't full attribute. [11:02:20] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141734 :) [11:03:02] That's for the app though. [11:03:36] the new display with icons is a good improvement though [11:04:14] Well, since more than half of WIkipedia readers are on mobile now... [11:36:19] sjoerddebruin: oops https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149179 I 'had' to do this :p [11:36:37] rip [11:59:59] sjoerddebruin: I should not do Phabricator anymore :p I just make messes [12:00:20] Meh [12:17:08] Jonas_WMDE: You still online? [12:17:15] jap [12:17:36] I'm adding attribution for each image on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WDQS_-_Image_Grid_Result_View.png. What is that imaeg on the bottom right, do you know? [12:18:55] Josve05a: Shouldn't matter because it's only a tiny fraction of the original. not relevant. [12:18:59] http://tinyurl.com/zpttz3y [12:19:25] Thiemo_WMDE: yes...De minimis does not apply for screenshots, since it is not "unintentional inclusion" [12:19:49] Jonas_WMDE: I can't check http://localhost/ [12:20:29] ups sorry [12:20:30] https://query.wikidata.org/embed.html#%23Even%20more%20cats%2C%20with%20pictures%0A%0A%23added%20before%202016-10%0A%0A%23defaultView%3AImageGrid%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3Fpic%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ146%20.%20%0A%09OPTIONAL%20%7B%0A%09%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP18%20%3Fpic%0A%09%7D%20%0A%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3 [12:20:30] AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22%20%7D%0A%7D [12:20:40] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0mordCc0/ [12:20:52] ty [12:29:58] Jonas_WMDE: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AWDQS_-_Image_Grid_Result_View.png&type=revision&diff=210927041&oldid=210923534 [12:30:48] thanks for attributing all the cats :) [14:27:53] so I have just finished an initial look over the new map and between April -> October 2016 the places that have light up with items are Afghanistan, Angola, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Burundi, Lebanon, Lithuania, Macedonia, South Sudan, Syria [14:30:38] Interesting! [14:32:11] addshore: is Finland still quite pale? [14:34:14] leszek_wmde: there are a few areas (im guessing around some cities) that have appeard a bit, but nothing capred with the others listed above :) [14:34:37] Is it possible to get a closer view of the Netherlands? [14:35:01] sjoerddebruin: which map are you looking at? (there are different resolutions) [14:35:04] addshore: ok, thanks. It was always bothering me that they're a bit less Wikidated that surrounding countries [14:36:01] http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-analysis/20161017/geo2png/map_enormous.png [14:37:14] But I want more details! :P [14:38:20] well, thats the biggest one the code can currently generate [14:38:32] Ripperoni [14:38:39] https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-wmde-toolkit-analyzer/blob/master/geo2png.py [14:38:44] i should really move that script to its own repo.... [14:38:57] What about gigantic? [14:39:30] its fails (OOM or something) I dont remember :) [14:39:37] Ah ok [14:40:24] I'm trying to find the reason of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146069 [14:40:46] huh, there's a weird stripe across angola [14:41:18] I've noticed that some scripts are slower due to the use of settimeout in them. Browsers put limits on those when they are loaded on the background. :/ [14:41:29] But still can't find out why it completely fails on moments. [14:42:02] nikki: ? take a screenshot? :P [14:42:20] Left side of Africa [14:42:32] I think she means this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a1fdionfyd0hzzr/Schermafdruk%202016-10-26%2016.42.27.png?dl=0 [14:42:32] I know ;) but I dont have it open now ;) [14:42:38] ooooo [14:42:50] yeah, that stripe in that screenshot [14:43:05] I love the pattern in the US though [17:07:41] sjoerddebruin [17:07:59] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9xv3FW06/ [17:08:02] That's my name. [17:08:39] Yeah, that's related to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148949. [17:08:57] ah sorry found the problem [17:10:05] It happened like 5 times before that. [17:12:02] If you want me to lift it, it's okay. [17:41:20] Thiemo_WMDE: I'm not sure how to let you in on the Scrum of scrums. [17:41:23] https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/wikimedia.org/scrum-of-scrums [17:41:27] That's the url. [17:42:18] Niharika: I was told somebody (everybody can do this) have to set the Hangout to "everybody who has the link". But this must be done every time. [17:42:25] Thats what I know. [17:42:37] Thiemo_WMDE: Let me try. [17:43:23] Thanks. [17:43:26] That worked. [18:48:58] hi. I want to show in wikipedia a property + relevant qualifier. I know I can use {{#invoke:Wikidata|claim|P577|qualifier=P291}} to get it (or write it directly in Lua) but is there any module or other easy way to handle list of claims and their qualifer. e.g some "%s (%s)" % (P577, P577.P291) for each value in Q229808 [18:53:45] Thiemo_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/317138 Could you +1 the changes I did there? [19:19:44] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1582 is my new favorite property ;-) [19:24:58] hoo: around? and deploying config stuff? [19:26:45] audephone: Yes and yes [19:26:50] well kind of by now [19:27:01] am preparing for tomorrow (going to Berlin for ladies that foss) [19:27:07] ok [19:27:15] Nice :) [19:27:17] deployment looked ok so far [19:27:26] I think [19:27:31] I don't think the train happened yet [19:27:39] Mukunda is doing it [19:27:44] No sms yet [19:37:30] Away for a bit [19:47:49] DanielK_WMDE: around per chance? [19:50:43] He is at least back from vacation [19:51:08] I assume there also is ArchCom meeting today? [19:55:28] SMalyshev: i'm about to have a meeting... [19:55:39] yea, what audephone said :) [19:56:30] DanielK_WMDE: ok, just reminding about inits thing if we want it done this week :) [19:59:37] if we don't want to announce it for this week then we can do it later but still would like to get it moving [19:59:56] SMalyshev: i commented on it yesterday. [20:00:12] DanielK_WMDE: yes, I've updated it according to your comments [20:00:14] the unit update thing, that is [20:00:29] oh, right. i should look again, then :) [20:00:37] probably not tonight. but tomorrow! [20:00:42] ok [20:02:40] SMalyshev: just re-ran it. Exception from line 39 of /var/www/html/daniel/wikidata/extensions/Wikibase/repo/maintenance/SPARQLClient.php: HTTP request failed, no response [20:02:43] hm... [20:03:11] #0 /var/www/html/daniel/wikidata/extensions/Wikibase/repo/maintenance/addUnitConversions.php(263): Wikibase\Repo\Maintenance\SPARQLClient->query(string) [20:03:13] #1 /var/www/html/daniel/wikidata/extensions/Wikibase/repo/maintenance/addUnitConversions.php(177): Wikibase\AddUnitConversions->processStatements(array, array) [20:03:14] #2 /var/www/html/daniel/wikidata/extensions/Wikibase/repo/maintenance/addUnitConversions.php(121): Wikibase\AddUnitConversions->processUnit(string) [20:03:25] anyway, of fto archcom [20:03:49] DanielK_WMDE: hmm... strange. let me check. Are you running it in them vm that has connection to outside working? [20:08:48] DanielK_WMDE: works on my side... I suspect some config or network setting missing [20:14:39] sjoerddebruin: Does quick statements have a remove option? [20:17:07] I don't know... [20:38:44] sjoerddebruin: Found it, should have used petscan [21:16:43] DanielK_WMDE: hmm... strange. let me check. Are you running it in them vm that has connection to outside working? [21:17:08] I run it natively on my laptop, and the first query works. the one for the statements fails. [21:17:27] network is not the issue [21:17:34] audephone: Everything looks good to me… calling it a day :) [21:17:41] i guess i#LL have to dig deeper. tomorrow perhaps [21:17:57] DanielK_WMDE_: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/317138 Would be nice if you could look at that [21:18:07] Only the test only changes I did to it [21:18:10] +1 it [21:18:13] I'll merge it tomorrow [21:18:58] DanielK_WMDE_: I just run it on my vagrant and it worked fine... no idea what's up... [21:19:08] DanielK_WMDE_: can you send me the full output? [21:19:43] DanielK_WMDE_: or maybe we can find time online to debug it together? because I don't want it to sit there for another month... [21:22:37] hoo thanks [21:22:54] I don't think much code changed that affects the repo [21:25:59] SMalyshev: i'm not traveling for another months :) [21:26:42] SMalyshev: ping me about it tomorrow. try to catch me early, Lucie is having a good-bye party in the evening... [21:27:00] DanielK_WMDE_: early like when? [21:27:28] 5pm my time? [21:27:40] 2pm my time would be even better [21:28:09] i actually already have that slot blocked for looking at your code :) [21:36:26] DanielK_WMDE_: 2pm your time is 5am here :( [21:38:23] yea, that'S why i didn't suggest it initially. but you asked ;) [21:38:43] i'll dig in and let you know what i find. ping me when you get online [21:54:31] DanielK_WMDE_: ok, don't forget the https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/298407/ also [22:35:26] how do i get pages translated on wikidata wiki? i edited "wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings", "wikidata:Tools/External tools" for example. and i want my change to show up in all the translated subpages [22:35:48] in some wikis i have to request that, right [22:36:14] background is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P4306 see the "wikidatawiki" lines in that [22:36:26] further background for that is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137353