[06:57:03] <Josve05a>	 So, I've just spent 30 min creating an item about a film,a nd appropriate people (Q5's)...https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q27512953
[07:27:12] <Josve05a>	 .+nom Boëthius
[07:27:27] <Josve05a>	 oops, wrong channel
[09:30:07] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: good morning. :)
[09:58:01] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: Good morning. I completed the missing p&p
[10:02:00] <sjoerddebruin>	 I better start merging. http://wdq.wmflabs.org/stats?action=doublestring&prop=1749
[10:02:29] <multichill>	 haha, yes, I expected that
[11:02:15] <wikidata347>	 Hello!
[11:03:17] <wikidata347>	 I have a question of how to reference well known or obvious facts. For example the time zone of a city?
[11:20:23] <sjoerddebruin>	 wikidata347: good question
[11:28:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hmmm
[12:23:13] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: I'll delete https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21544153
[12:39:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 ok
[12:53:06] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: Now you can start creating the remaining ones I guess?
[12:53:11] <multichill>	 Or do you think we can match more?
[12:53:21] <sjoerddebruin>	 Can I merge the duplicates first?
[12:53:31] <multichill>	 Sure
[12:53:36] <multichill>	 No rush :-)
[12:53:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 Do all Tweede Kamerleden have a P&P now?
[12:56:42] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: Just 5 missing on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Sjoerddebruin/Dutch_politics/Tweede_Kamer . Couldn't find them
[12:57:12] <sjoerddebruin>	 Okay, will see if I can find them
[13:03:28] <wikidata347>	 Should I merge these two items https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16880977 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19858991 ?
[13:03:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 Looks okay for me to merge.
[13:04:11] <wikidata347>	 ok, thanks!
[13:08:52] <wikidata347>	 Is this use of performer correct or should I remove it, and is there any other property to set in that case? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23137259
[13:09:23] <sjoerddebruin>	 No, it's correct at the moment.
[13:09:41] <wikidata347>	 thanks!
[13:19:27] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: I hacked up a report of BPN / P&P identifiers we don't have on Wikidata yet, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Zandbak
[13:20:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 Nice :)
[13:20:47] <sjoerddebruin>	 Couldn't you just import those with quickstatements?
[13:21:07] <sjoerddebruin>	 The label on biografisch portaal is mostly superior to P&P
[13:21:54] <multichill>	 It contains some interesting side cases . Take for example https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q648946
[13:22:02] <multichill>	 The BPN id redirects to another id
[13:22:20] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh right, I've had something similair earlier
[13:22:43] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21549874&action=history
[13:24:07] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin:  https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21549874&type=revision&diff=393275576&oldid=393234919
[13:24:20] <sjoerddebruin>	 both work though
[13:24:26] <multichill>	 Regex checks if it's \d{8}
[13:24:33] <multichill>	 And for a bot it's complete different
[13:24:47] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, as the other one was redirecting to the one without the 0.
[13:25:24] <multichill>	 Yeah, it's confusing
[13:26:21] <sjoerddebruin>	 Maybe I should apply for a job there, but I'm probably being annoyed so much that I would propose a closure and move all the data to us. :P
[13:55:08] <multichill>	 I'm pretty sure they ran out of funding
[14:03:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: commissaris van de Koning in of van [Provincie]?
[14:06:58] <sjoerddebruin>	 "in" heeft de voorkeur schijnt het
[14:09:07] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: Mij om het even
[14:09:10] <sjoerddebruin>	 :P
[14:15:30] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: anyway, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q27516596
[14:15:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 I've created the structure for the provincial politics now, can you see any improvements?
[14:24:41] <multichill>	 Oh that's nice
[14:24:45] <multichill>	 I was thinking about that one
[14:26:49] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BotMultichill <- fixed the redirect thingie
[14:26:58] <sjoerddebruin>	 nice
[14:27:25] <multichill>	 Left the old redirect id's on it
[14:27:40] <multichill>	 Could also be a duplicate BPN
[14:31:02] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: Check out http://tinyurl.com/j9o2aj8
[14:32:03] <sjoerddebruin>	 why does that include https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17619252?
[14:33:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 oh wait, now I understand
[14:38:01] <sjoerddebruin>	 I've found out we had https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Gedeputeerde_van_Noord-Holland so I should probably work on the other provinces as well
[14:45:58] <multichill>	 Yup, looks promising. 
[14:58:21] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: Doesn't the Dutch Wikipedia have a parlement project? I remember Lodewijk working on it
[14:58:45] <sjoerddebruin>	 It's pretty inactive though.
[14:59:52] <multichill>	 Yeah, but good location to put my Listeria lists ;-)
[14:59:55] <multichill>	 What is the url?
[15:01:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Nederlandse_parlementsleden
[15:19:50] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Nederlandse_parlementsleden/Voorzitters_van_de_Eerste_Kamer :-)
[16:18:11] <nikki>	 WikidataFacts: I just made https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148923, maybe you're interested or have some thoughts on it (I noticed you mentioned the other day that you couldn't find a function for decoding the url)
[16:25:11] <WikidataFacts>	 nikki: good idea, thanks
[16:25:27] <WikidataFacts>	 I’d prefer a triple instead of a function, because the function would be harder to find
[16:25:50] <WikidataFacts>	 I have no idea if there any functions available right now that aren’t part of the standard (https://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-query/)
[16:26:14] <WikidataFacts>	 the triple would be documented on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/RDF_Dump_Format, easy to find (it’s in the help menu)
[16:27:19] <nikki>	 yeah, I'd prefer that too, it would be easier to remember
[16:28:07] <WikidataFacts>	 the predicate could be schema:name (http://1.schemaorgae.appspot.com/name), I guess
[16:28:48] <WikidataFacts>	 or possibly headline (http://1.schemaorgae.appspot.com/headline)
[16:30:47] <v40>	 hi
[16:31:17] <v40>	 can someone do a merge for me?
[16:31:31] <v40>	 it's Q14294128 and Q756322
[16:32:50] <sjoerddebruin>	 That doesn't seem right imo
[16:34:13] <v40>	 the en. article is about V40 and S40, so is the german
[16:34:35] <v40>	 the da /dansk as well
[16:34:49] <v40>	 just the japanese wiki has two different articles
[16:35:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 So they can't be merged.
[16:35:38] <v40>	 is there something like a link element?
[16:35:54] <v40>	 to link similar articles?
[16:36:09] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yep, looking at that now.
[16:36:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 As we also have https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9369131
[16:39:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 Better? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q14294128
[16:40:59] <v40>	 yeah, way better
[18:57:08] <yurik>	 is there a tool to quickly convert a list of wikipedia article titles to wikidata IDs?
[18:58:17] <sjoerddebruin>	 I think https://tools.wmflabs.org/pagepile/ can do that
[19:07:40] <Stryn>	 and https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/linked_items.php
[19:21:38] <yurik>	 thanks everyone!
[20:51:53] <wikidata347>	 Is there anyone here that have used the API? I can't find the correct format for setting quantity values
[21:51:37] <wikidata347>	 Ok, I got the API to accept my quantities but when I pass in a value like 2717.16 it get set to +2717.15999999999985448084771633148193359375.
[21:52:06] <wikidata347>	 Is there some better way to pass in values that have decimal handling?
[22:23:02] <yannf>	 does someone know how to make a query?
[22:23:43] <yannf>	 all streets named after a woman, grouped city by city
[22:25:24] <yannf>	 and by language
[22:25:40] <WikidataFacts>	 yannf: https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fcity%20%3FcityLabel%20%3FstreetLabel%20%3FwomanLabel%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fstreet%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279%2a%20wd%3AQ79007%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wdt%3AP138%20%3Fwoman%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wdt%3AP131%2B%20%3Fcity.%0A%20%20%3Fwoman%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wdt%3AP21%20wd%3AQ6581072.%0A%20%20%3Fcity%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP
[22:25:52] <WikidataFacts>	 wdym by language? language of what?
[22:30:56] <yannf>	 WikidataFacts, doesn't work for me, I got garbage
[22:31:17] <yannf>	 the idea is to check if articles for these women exist
[22:32:07] <WikidataFacts>	 articles in which language?
[22:32:18] <yannf>	 en + fr
[22:32:33] <yannf>	 Query is malformed: Encountered "<EOF>" at line 7, column 20.
[22:32:42] <WikidataFacts>	 oh, perhaps the link got cut off, hang on
[22:32:49] <WikidataFacts>	 http://tinyurl.com/jdnzazm
[22:32:56] <WikidataFacts>	 but that has nothing with sitelinks
[22:33:55] <yannf>	 thanks
[22:34:45] <WikidataFacts>	 and here it is with sitelink support: http://tinyurl.com/j7ru9uy
[22:36:19] <yannf>	 wow great!
[22:57:44] <boopieee>	 Hello!
[22:58:24] <boopieee>	 What can be a proper member of "lifestyle"?
[22:58:36] <boopieee>	 "vegan" or "veganism"?
[23:04:59] <WikidataFacts>	 boopieee: I don’t know if there’s a policy, but veganism is a bit more common than vegan: http://tinyurl.com/zlvl6fb
[23:05:10] <WikidataFacts>	 but otoh vegetarian is much more common than vegetarianism…
[23:05:17] <boopieee>	 But, vegetarian is more common than vegetarianism.
[23:05:19] <boopieee>	 Yes LOL.
[23:05:23] <boopieee>	 That's why I asked here.
[23:06:16] <boopieee>	 I created an item for vegan "people" (those who adhere to it), is that okay?
[23:06:56] <WikidataFacts>	 that one occurrence of “lifestyle: hero” also sounds suspicious… can someone who speaks Dutch look into https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2029987 ?
[23:07:07] <WikidataFacts>	 (the ones I know of seem to be offline)
[23:07:33] <boopieee>	 WikidataFacts: So it's probably okay, right?
[23:08:47] <WikidataFacts>	 I don’t know… where would you use that item? it sounds like it would be P31 instance of, and I don’t know if that’s common on person items (other than Q5, human)
[23:09:26] <boopieee>	 WikidataFacts: Well, on "lifestyle"?
[23:09:30] <boopieee>	 For people.
[23:09:34] <boopieee>	 Anyone who follows ir.
[23:09:35] <boopieee>	 it.*
[23:10:04] <boopieee>	 Haha, it'd be great to have {{cn}} there.
[23:10:40] <WikidataFacts>	 hm, okay, could be alright
[23:11:41] <boopieee>	 WikidataFacts: Thank you very much.
[23:20:03] <boopieee>	 WikidataFacts: Is there any tool to graphically construct queries? The Graph Browser seems to be good but the others seem complicated.
[23:24:35] <WikidataFacts>	 not that I know of
[23:25:05] <WikidataFacts>	 you can edit existing queries graphically on WDQS in the “query explanation” box in the top right corner, but constructing a query with that seems more difficult
[23:25:57] <boopieee>	 WikidataFacts: Thank you very much, again!
[23:28:20] <WikidataFacts>	 you’re welcome, again :)