[13:18:10] <Amir1>	 Josve05a: hey, if you're around. I fixed the duplicates in Kian. It seems autolist API changed and I didn't notice. Thanks for reminding 
[16:02:26] <kopiersperre>	 mixnmatch is not working for me in the moment
[16:02:32] <kopiersperre>	 may you please check out https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/?mode=random&catalog=231&submode=unmatched
[16:02:47] <kopiersperre>	 whether it's a layer 8 problem or not ;)
[16:03:19] <kopiersperre>	 ok, solved
[16:23:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 Good evening Harmonia_Amanda 
[16:23:09] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 sjoerddebruin: :)
[16:24:20] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 the good thing with the late update of constraints violations pages is that number still goes down even when I didn't work at it for a day :p
[16:24:48] <sjoerddebruin>	 :O
[16:48:24] <abian>	 Harmonia_Amanda: Perhaps you could persuade Ivan to publish KrBot's code
[16:48:36] <abian>	 I haven't succeeded :(
[16:48:39] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 uh?
[16:48:49] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 I don't know personnaly ivan
[16:48:58] <abian>	 16:23:39 < Harmonia_Amanda> the good thing with the late update of constraints violations pages is that number still goes down even when I 
[16:49:01] <abian>	                             didn't work at it for a day :p
[16:49:05] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 and he is under no obligation to release his code
[16:49:58] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 hmm no, for properties which are used on too many items, the violation constraints pages is never up to date
[16:49:59] <abian>	 Sure but, if he doesn't publish his code, the community will have to develop its own published and free code
[16:50:11] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 well the community can
[16:50:29] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 and if a better tool come forward, we'll switch to it
[16:51:06] <sjoerddebruin>	 there is a halfbaked solution
[16:53:40] <abian>	 Tell us, sjoerddebruin, what are you thinking about? :)
[17:02:41] <abian>	 PLbot, for example, carries out similar checks, in its case, based on SPARQL queries
[17:05:14] <abian>	 I don't know if its code is released but, at least, its operator seems more available to maintain the bot
[17:06:24] <multichill>	 hoo: Do you know if we have some sort of formal description on how to compare two dates on Wikidata? Maybe somehwere in the data model?
[17:06:47] <abian>	 The Constraint:Contemporary is still not recognised by KrBot, but we do have queries to check it
[17:06:48] <hoo>	 hm…
[17:07:59] <multichill>	 In pywikibot we seem to have forgotten to implement that part so I filed this fun bug: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148280
[17:09:58] <hoo>	 multichill: I think you can just compare the ISO date strings
[17:10:37] <multichill>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/316220/4/pywikibot/__init__.py looks like an interesting approach
[17:15:21] <sjoerddebruin>	 abian: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase_Quality_Extensions
[17:20:21] <abian>	 sjoerddebruin: Yes, I'm following the development (and I agree, these extensions, once finished, will be better than any bot)
[17:20:53] <abian>	 But... until they're finished... :S
[17:22:00] <abian>	 Perhaps we need a temporary solution
[17:22:32] <abian>	 Or *transitional
[17:37:51] <sjoerddebruin>	 Harmonia_Amanda: \o/ https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P734&action=history
[17:38:26] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 sjoerddebruin: and tomorrow still because there are still merged item listed as violations
[17:38:43] <sjoerddebruin>	 if we work hard enough you have a birthday present. ;)
[17:38:49] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 (because the redirects don't have a P31, stricto sensu :p)
[17:38:52] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 sjoerddebruin: oooooh
[17:38:55] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 good idea
[17:39:00] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 to keep me motivated
[17:39:09] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 because now, everything is more complicated
[17:39:16] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 I did the easy stuff first
[18:21:12] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 sjoerddebruin: I'm correcting Korean name now and it's entirely your fault
[18:21:22] <sjoerddebruin>	 shit
[18:22:18] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q27342406
[18:28:52] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hmmm https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q17901425&action=history
[18:33:02] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 sjoerddebruin: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16533661
[18:33:10] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 no idea what to make of that
[18:33:16] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 is used as a given name
[18:33:32] <sjoerddebruin>	 And you expect me to know something about it? :)
[18:35:54] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 yes
[18:36:02] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 you are the one who want 0 violations :p
[18:36:12] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 I'm already dealing with the Koreans!
[18:44:41] <sjoerddebruin>	 It's probably from the period i wasn't very carefull with bots
[19:29:27] <Josve05a>	 lol, what are statements? :p https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q27342945a
[19:37:18] <sjoerddebruin>	 -a :)
[19:37:30] <multichill>	 Josve05a: Nothing on my bot import list....
[19:38:50] <multichill>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q27334592&oldid=389785485 <- this is how it starts
[19:39:24] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh fun, Josve05a. Sources that don't say the same. :D
[19:41:10] <Josve05a>	 multichill: :o wow
[19:41:52] <Josve05a>	 same as http://viaf.org/viaf/317188614/ ?
[19:45:05] <multichill>	 Looks like it
[19:47:18] <sjoerddebruin>	 Boomed this item with from 11 to 111k. :D https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3565908&offset=&limit=500&action=history
[19:47:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 Only the French don't like it, according to their infobox. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Van_Gerven
[19:48:09] <sjoerddebruin>	 (Harmonia_Amanda, maybe you can report that ^)
[19:48:41] <sjoerddebruin>	 It should at least include the P39
[19:49:06] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 sjoerddebruin: seeing how the French are hysterical right now...
[19:49:10] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 not tempted :s
[19:49:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 hm?
[19:49:22] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 I'm almost never on Wikipedia these days
[19:49:29] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 they are depressing me
[19:49:51] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 sjoerddebruin: some French Wikipedians want to banish the use of Wikidata altogether
[19:50:41] <sjoerddebruin>	 ;_;
[19:50:42] <multichill>	 Great, TomT0m broke all the example queries when he tried to enable translations....
[19:50:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 why do we need translations for them anyway?
[19:51:27] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 multichill: not surprised
[19:51:44] <multichill>	 Translate tags scare the shit out of me, but French seem to like them. Maybe Harmonia_Amanda knows more about the why? ;-)
[19:51:56] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 uh
[19:52:02] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 TomTom like them
[19:52:18] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 and i don't understand TomTom ninety-nine percent of the time
[19:52:29] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 but then, I'm autistic
[19:52:39] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 understanding people isn't my strong point
[19:53:55] <multichill>	 Anyway, was an open topic at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:SPARQL_query_service/queries/examples#Translation
[19:54:08] <multichill>	 I usually ask JeanFred for help when I run into translate tags
[19:55:58] <multichill>	 Josve05a: Anyway, before I got distracted, I wanted to share http://tinyurl.com/hdcym2o . These are the properties I tend to focus on
[19:59:02] <Josve05a>	 multichill: Missing https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P3222 -- stupid closed source pay-walled stuff...like it's only me who got access to it on WIkidata xD
[19:59:35] <sjoerddebruin>	 :/
[20:00:03] <multichill>	 Josve05a: Property needs to have https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19595382
[20:00:21] <multichill>	 In this case it only has instance of wikidata property
[20:00:46] <Josve05a>	 well, it's not only about people...it's a real encyclopedia about 'everything'...
[20:01:11] <multichill>	 I just want to have real authority control properties, not every external link
[20:01:28] <Josve05a>	 :/
[20:01:52] <Josve05a>	 Do I need to add all the "Wikidata property for items about..." things?
[20:02:00] <multichill>	 No, just remove one line
[20:02:19] <multichill>	 Remove "	?property wdt:P31 wd:Q19595382 ." 
[20:02:25] <multichill>	 Not sure it will complete
[20:02:38] <multichill>	 It does
[20:02:46] <multichill>	 http://tinyurl.com/jhn8myy
[20:04:30] <multichill>	 Josve05a: ^
[20:05:29] <Josve05a>	 hm, ok
[20:06:36] <multichill>	 I've quite the workflow going. Bot uploads all the paintings. http://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/painters/index.php suggests some new painters to create. Bot adds missing info. Another bot adds the painter to the painting
[20:07:25] <Josve05a>	 using multiple bots, is that what is called sockpuppeting? :p
[20:08:27] <Josve05a>	 multichill: well, the top item to create on that link, seems to be the same person as https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2242830 ...?
[20:09:57] <multichill>	 Josve05a: That's because the last bot isn't done yet
[20:10:04] <Josve05a>	 ah
[20:10:06] <multichill>	 So still paintings out there that don't have a painter
[20:10:16] <multichill>	 It just finished
[20:10:38] <multichill>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q27333516&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=390075207&oldid=389705340
[20:11:37] <multichill>	 I'm actually working on http://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/painters/index.php?collection=Q2098586 Josve05a . Remaining ones are just manual work
[20:13:47] <Josve05a>	 I'm doing crap like https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3APortrait_of_Cornelis_Theodorus_Elout_by_Andries_van_den_Berg_Rijksmuseum_Amsterdam_SK-A-3793.jpg&type=revision&diff=209997712&oldid=209272422
[20:14:32] <multichill>	 Oh, nice, did you discover the subst template ?
[20:14:45] <multichill>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Artwork/subst
[20:14:59] <Josve05a>	 no, I have not...
[20:15:07] <multichill>	 Replace {{information with {{subst:artwork/subst|subst=subst: and see magic happen ;-)
[20:16:06] <Josve05a>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Portrait_of_Cornelis_Theodorus_Elout_by_Andries_van_den_Berg_Rijksmuseum_Amsterdam_SK-A-3793.jpg&diff=209997906&oldid=209997712
[20:16:32] <Josve05a>	 nice
[20:17:07] <multichill>	 Refresh to see the link to Wikidata
[20:17:34] <multichill>	 If that person has an item, you can add it to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18607862 too 
[20:18:41] <sjoerddebruin>	 oh, I've ruined that :P
[20:19:29] <Josve05a>	 I wish there was a "tool" to easy convert an {{ºrtwork}} to a wikidata item...
[20:19:30] <AsimovBot>	 10[2] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:%C2%BArtwork
[20:19:33] <Josve05a>	 artwork*
[20:21:10] <multichill>	 Josve05a: Added a couple of his uploads to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Paintings_in_the_Rijksmuseum_SK-A-3000_to_3999
[20:21:38] <multichill>	 One of my tools is broken, otherwise these edits would ensure that at some point a bot would convert the template on Commons
[20:22:19] <Josve05a>	 I'm mostly just doing [[c:Commons:WikiProject Public Domain/PD-Art review]]-work, and just happen to convert {{Information}} to {{Artwork}} at the same time...
[20:22:21] <AsimovBot>	 10[3] 10https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:WikiProject_Public_Domain/PD%2DArt_review13 =>
[20:22:24] <AsimovBot>	 10[4] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Information13 =>
[20:22:27] <AsimovBot>	 10[5] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Artwork
[20:23:40] <multichill>	 I've been filling up https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Artworks_with_Wikidata_item for a while
[20:24:49] <Josve05a>	 I've been filling up the other category (Artworks without Wikidata item), since I don't know if they already hav items or not etc...
[20:25:27] <Josve05a>	 Case and point: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ARosa_clinophylla_%28lyellii%29.jpg&type=revision&diff=209998596&oldid=181591851 :p
[20:25:33] <multichill>	 149525 paintings on Wikidata. Just one collection to do to reach the 150.000 :-)
[20:26:15] <multichill>	 Please do, that way these will show up in a query for images to connect
[20:26:23] <Josve05a>	 oh :)
[20:26:27] <Josve05a>	 Well then :p
[20:27:53] <Josve05a>	 multichill: Should I remove the " (d. 1796) "  or let it be? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Polish_Plumb_Cake.PNG
[20:28:55] <multichill>	 I would probably just leave it
[20:29:26] <multichill>	 (when in doubt, don't change)
[20:30:47] <Josve05a>	 DO we have stats onhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Artworks_without_Wikidata_item about how much it has "grown"?
[20:30:55] <Josve05a>	 Do*
[20:31:32] <Josve05a>	 on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Artworks_without_Wikidata_item *
[20:32:37] <multichill>	 Not really, I did keep an eye on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Google_Art_Project_paintings_without_Wikidata_item while working on that one
[20:33:05] <multichill>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Google_Art_Project_paintings_with_Wikidata_item went through break even some time ago and is already quite a bit larger now
[20:37:32] <Josve05a>	 Annoying stuff... https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Arnout_de_Muyser2.jpg&diff=209999205&oldid=181749215 " Artwork without English title" It does have an ENglish title, stupid category!
[21:21:46] <kopiersperre>	 may you please convert me noclaim[31:(tree[Q4830453][][279])] to WDQS?
[21:22:05] <kopiersperre>	 The WDQ conversion doesn't work in the moment (or forever?)
[21:22:12] <kopiersperre>	 "Sorry, that WDQ conversion is not supported yet. Feel free to bug Stas about it!"
[21:23:09] <kopiersperre>	 SORRY - STILL WORKING
[21:24:17] <WikidataFacts>	 kopiersperre: I’m not very familiar with WDQ, but I think that would be:
[21:24:17] <WikidataFacts>	 MINUS { ?item wdt:P31/wd:Q279* wd:Q4830453. }
[22:41:28] <nikki>	 WikidataFacts: that should be wdt:P279*
[22:43:05] <WikidataFacts>	 oops, yeah :D