[08:48:09] 24m items. \o/ [10:10:51] Lydia_WMDE: This patch is pretty much ready, reviewed several times by several people: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313629 [10:12:26] Amir1: \o/ [10:12:57] It is waiting for a sweet sweet +2 [10:13:00] :D [12:21:21] * nikki sighs at these scripts being used to make loads of changes to elements and compounds as a single edit [12:21:56] they seem to be sneaking bad edits in amongst loads of updates to retrieved dates and the edit summary is helpfully just "updated item" :( [12:23:49] like on aluminium? [12:23:52] yes [12:24:15] Yeah, I've noticed the label change. [12:24:58] and now half the periodic table has the wrong names since a bot started adding "atom" to the name, a bunch of elements are now incorrectly called compounds, sensible human-written descriptions are being replaced by simple and incorrect descriptions... [12:26:26] like https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q895&diff=384274601&oldid=383155190 [12:27:01] well complain on the project chat [12:27:33] I did already comment on sebotic's talk page [13:45:42] hi sjoerddebruin :) [13:45:48] hey hoo :) [13:47:45] Just a casual hi or do you need me? [13:48:36] No, just saying hi [13:49:49] Well, I've made a list of the hopefully last properties that influence the calculations too much: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Sjoerddebruin/Entity_suggester#Calculations [13:51:12] They look ok to me to exclude [13:51:24] if you poke Lydia and she is ok as well, I can put them on the list [13:51:37] Based them on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/List_of_properties/Top100 [13:52:09] You can check the subjects they are used on very easily, but the query service seems down? [13:52:30] Works for me [13:52:43] but you can also look at the property suggester data to get an idea [13:52:53] the more correlations it has, the more broadly something is used [13:53:30] Also: the botrun for marking Julian dates fucked up the suggestions for birth and death date [13:54:07] I think it affected more than those two [13:54:25] sjoerddebruin: huh, how? [13:54:36] you mean the qualifiers suggested? [13:54:40] it's now suggesting instance of as a qualifier [13:54:53] ah, yeah… that could happen [13:55:03] We could exclude that as well [13:55:08] if desired [13:55:12] Would that bring up the old suggestions again? [13:55:18] or just from these two properties [13:55:25] I think so [13:56:01] You can see the impact there https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P569#Properties_statistics [13:59:02] wow [14:00:45] I'll will go get food first. [14:06:11] yeah [14:09:41] Lydia_WMDE: Yeah to what? [14:10:22] hoo: let's try the two properties first [14:10:44] instance of is the top qualifier suggestion for p571 too [14:12:04] Two properties? You don't mean the list on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Sjoerddebruin/Entity_suggester#Calculations, do you? [14:16:24] i thought we were talking about two properties that should be excluded because they have been polluted by the bot run for calendar model runs [14:16:28] or not? [14:16:29] :D [14:17:04] Lydia_WMDE: Well, we talk about the list on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Sjoerddebruin/Entity_suggester#Calculations and about the qualifiers that Adam's bot added [14:17:13] ok [14:17:22] then i misunderstood [14:17:27] what is the option then? [14:18:17] The properties on Sjoerddebruin's are stright forward. For the qualifiers I would suggest to just remove the correlation Pn => P31 (where context = 'qualifier') [14:18:27] sounds good [14:18:28] ok [14:20:29] Put on my to do list [14:20:35] not sure whether I'll come to that today [14:41:35] hoo: and how hard will it be to put the usage of "imported from" to "stated in"? That will improve the suggestions on a lot of properties. [14:42:03] you mean pretend the suggestion from the first are for the latter? [14:42:34] Well merge the numbers of them to the latter [14:43:06] Ugh… doable, but will need a few minutes of thought [14:43:20] The workarounds are getting a little out of hand by now [14:43:34] Yeah, sorry. I hope these are the last ones. [14:45:33] I'll put it on my list… but not sure I'll implement that [14:45:47] if the SQL update gets to scary, I'll leave my hands off [14:45:51] Yeah, it's not the most important one. [14:50:05] I'll try to look into that later today… my to do list is virtually exploding by now :( [14:51:29] *hug* [14:59:50] Thanks :) [15:18:02] They say you feel them pretty realistic after a week of three. ;) [15:28:12] hm? [15:29:37] *cough* 4th birthday *cough* [16:36:32] WikidataFacts: you seem to be proud on your query. :) [16:36:51] how do you figure? ;) [16:38:32] This really shows the power of Wikidata. [16:39:35] I love how the immediately preceding tweet in my timeline is “thinking about easy-to-use querying for @wikidata” [16:39:40] yes, erm, about that… :D [16:40:09] how about a query I can’t even properly describe in 140 characters, is that easy-to-use? :P [16:56:05] aude: here? [16:56:16] Oh wait, nevermind [19:27:20] sjoerddebruin: Do you know if someone already looked into importing p&p id's from pages like https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aranka_Goijert ? [19:27:57] multichill: Hay did, but as you can see it are the former ID's. He converted some, but it didn't catch all it seems. [19:30:00] Ok [19:30:19] I'll do a query to make a list of pages that seem to have an url and the item doesn't have a p&p id [19:30:20] uhh... did the edit links vanish for anyone else? [19:30:30] nikki: F5? [19:30:44] nikki: same [19:30:55] And they are back [19:31:08] Probably a side-effect of deploying [19:31:14] ah, so they are [19:32:32] [21:27:32] logmsgbot: !log thcipriani@mira rebuilt wikiversions.php and synchronized wikiversions files: group1 wikis to 1.28.0-wmf.22 [19:42:43] I never noticed how strange the qualifiers of P585 are [19:49:52] sjoerddebruin: Found 339 suggestions [19:49:59] multichill: <3 [19:54:31] sjoerddebruin: What do you think of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Kladblok ? Got a couple of list items in there, but those are easy to skip [19:54:55] You know how to convert the old id's? [19:55:27] Better skip the nieuws ones too [19:57:02] Filtered out the lists now [19:58:00] Hope we can do https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_sjabloon:Infobox_politicus_Nederland#Parlement_.26_Politiek_naar_Wikidata then [20:23:18] sjoerddebruin: Does quickstatements work for you? [20:23:36] multichill: it loads [20:26:09] sjoerddebruin: Try putting this in there: Q19840669 P1749 "vg09lkzwb1qd" [20:27:07] hmmm [20:37:32] sjoerddebruin: Second part of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Kladblok can be updated quite easy if quickstatements works [20:37:49] Well if Wikipedia loads for me... [20:38:32] Since Sierra some websites don't load for a few minutes. [21:40:50] "You may wish to op yourself in any channels you manage.", hmmm