[05:29:51] 4 f-ing days now that I haven't been able to log in on my phone in desktop mode https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/cE9S4dYb/IMG_4059.PNG [05:36:13] Hm... Reset cookies? [05:36:48] How...on iOS...? [05:37:20] Works just fine in mobile view...but login does not carry over... [05:37:38] Oh. Huh... [05:37:44] Maybe file a bug? [05:40:56] Well, I'll hold on and will try a different ip later... [05:41:06] On 3G now [05:43:34] Okay. [10:14:57] I'm too stupid for the new notifications ui :( [10:15:07] the numbers just keep going up, even after I've clicked on the notifications [10:16:10] they stop being red and blue on one site, but every other site still shows them like unread notifications even though I've read them [10:19:00] You need to actually do actions with them. [10:19:07] nikki: blue circle at the left [10:19:22] The left? [10:19:22] when read, it's an ampty circle [10:19:26] right [10:19:30] sorry << [10:19:40] (and it's only Monday) [10:19:42] (sigh) [10:19:45] :) [10:19:46] o_O that's really unintuitive to me [10:19:48] thanks though! [10:19:57] it's totally unintuitive [10:20:09] I discovered it by chance [10:25:28] Lot of French movies in the reports... [10:25:46] Including the wonderful ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q22000020 [10:38:15] which reports? [10:40:06] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P1970#.22Conflicts_with.22_violations_2 :) [10:40:19] Ehm, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P1970* [11:00:00] accesskey' => $sk->getMsg( 'wikibase-accesskey-dataitem' )->text() . What does this code actually does ? [11:01:16] If I have to make a keyboard shortcut for a wiki page like (alt+a) what should I change ? [11:01:33] Am a beginner . [11:20:43] for new joiners: [11:20:46] 11:00 < aniketh_> accesskey' => $sk->getMsg( 'wikibase-accesskey-dataitem' )->text() . What does this code actually does ? [11:20:49] 11:01 < aniketh_> If I have to make a keyboard shortcut for a wiki page like (alt+a) what should I change ? [11:20:52] 11:01 < aniketh_> Am a beginner . [11:21:56] andre__: Du kennst Dich doch damit bestimmt aus ... [11:32:20] doctaxon: No, not at all. Definitely not "bestimmt". :) [11:32:38] doctaxon: I've never touched any Wikidata code. [11:33:10] andre__: ist das überhaupt wikidata code? [11:33:31] sieht mir aus wie js [11:46:35] doctaxon: but why would I know JS code either? [11:46:48] If someone knows something, someone replies something on IRC. [11:46:58] That's how I understood things so far. So I remained silence. :) [11:47:02] *silent [11:47:21] okay [11:47:31] aniketh_: Where did you find that code? [11:47:31] I cannot help at all, too [11:47:55] hi hoo [11:50:34] aniketh_: Anyway, you basically put a key in there which is then used as described on https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Web/HTML/Global_attributes/accesskey [11:56:02] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74808 . I was trying to fix this [11:56:08] please help along [11:56:31] I got that code from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/89698/8/client/WikibaseClient.hooks.php [11:56:45] I don't know much about wikidata [11:59:25] aniketh_: As the task states, please propose a shortcut for discussion first [12:00:08] okay. After that what should I do ? Is there anything like downloading wikidata or so to work on ? [12:01:26] Once there has been a decision, you will need to checkout (and install) Wikibase. [12:01:40] Then you can do the modification in question. [12:06:05] addshore: Do we want to do a property suggester release now? [12:07:04] :O [12:07:19] sjoerddebruin: Just a tiny tiny non-user facing bug fixs [12:13:35] aniketh_, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [12:25:51] is it possible to see which server the results are coming from on query.wikidata.org? [12:25:56] is there some sort of a design pattern used in wikibase [12:29:11] nikki: there seems to be a response header X-Served-By: "wdqs1001" or "wdqs1002" [12:29:22] thanks [12:33:41] hoo: yeh, a minor release would make sese [12:33:56] and nikki, yes, that header ;) [12:42:31] hoo: WikiBase is cloned and installed though [12:43:52] addshore: done :) [13:46:41] it seems that all my requests that get served by wdqs1001 are timing out :/ [13:50:13] I get the results I expect from wdqs1002 and I can't get the weird results I was trying to investigate any more, I assume before wdqs1001 was sometimes timing out and sometimes giving me weird results [16:27:26] WDQS still has the item Q55142, which was deleted yesterday (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q55142), for some reason: http://tinyurl.com/jmy9ajb [16:30:24] who should I contact to get this fixed? :) [16:34:58] WikidataFacts: SMalyshev [16:40:23] hola alvaro molina [16:59:57] WikidataFacts, aude: deletes are broken now due to T147098 [16:59:57] T147098: Exception when getting TTL export of a deleted entity - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147098 [17:00:14] once it's fixed, I'll run a script to update deleted ones [17:00:19] oh, okay, thanks [17:03:23] Hi there -- I was wondering how countervandalism is organised on wikidata. I don't quite know where to look. I mean in the sense of patrolling edits etc. How is that organised? [17:09:44] SMalyshev: ah [17:10:05] are we deploying the fixes at swat? [17:10:18] aude: hopefully so [17:10:20] ok [17:10:37] i think this is related also to my talk page being broken due to problem in flow [17:11:21] aude: yes, same issue only with different class [17:11:43] yeah :/ [17:12:12] hey aude o/ [17:12:16] aude: speaking of deploying fixes, do you know how builds for Wikidata deployments are done? [17:12:56] aude: we have new version of purtle for T145754 but I'm not sure whether it's deployed and when [17:12:57] T145754: Non conform turtle syntax for RDF dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145754 [17:14:02] hi hoo [17:14:21] SMalyshev: we have a new build on beta each day [17:14:54] and normally deploy to production every two weeks, but it's been more irregular recently [17:14:56] aude: Are you in Berlin? [17:14:59] hoo: no [17:15:06] Oh :( [17:15:08] i'd like to deploy this week [17:15:11] hoo: are you? [17:15:29] Yeah, I'm on the train right towards Berlin right now [17:15:33] o_O [17:15:47] aude: is there schedule somewhere? [17:16:23] SMalyshev: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_deployment [17:16:38] but not up-to-date :/ [17:16:47] yeah I can see :) [17:18:44] hiya people :) [17:18:51] https://wordpress.alphos.fr/2016/10/03/959/sparquickl-3-bonne-compagnie/ french and english, a map of headquarters of business enterprises that have a name starting with "M", color-coded with the century they were founded in :) [17:19:04] * aude goes to update it [17:19:06] * Alphos pokes WikidataFacts gently :p [17:19:11] aude: great! [17:19:17] aude: Thanks :) [17:19:30] I can probably be around for deployments this week as well [17:19:54] aude: it's just hard to see if it was deployed otehrwise, sicen special:version only shows two digits: 1.0, so I don't have any idea if the fixes are there [17:20:05] hoo: great [17:20:15] Alphos: haha, that’s great! :D [17:20:29] SMalyshev: wmf18 wikibase is what is deployed now [17:20:40] this doesn't show correctly in special version though [17:21:05] WikidataFacts now, without cheating, find mercedes-benz, microsoft, and all ten companies that have their name starting with "Millennium" ! :D [17:21:35] aude: ah, that probably doesn't have the fixes [17:22:06] hoo: next deploy after this would be week of oct 24 [17:22:15] since week of oct 17 is no deploys [17:22:30] wow, that's pretty late [17:22:37] aude: so that's another 3 weeks from now? [17:22:41] but a week before the birthday party [17:22:44] so guess ok [17:22:44] that's like 2 months with no deploys [17:23:03] hoo: or next week again [17:23:22] 2 weeks from now is not an option, sadly [17:23:26] Maybe… depends on the activity this week [17:23:36] SMalyshev: we are deploying this week [17:23:47] aude: ah, ok then :) [17:23:58] hoo: ok [17:24:07] i'd like to get to the point were we deploy every week [17:24:22] and not have special build process also [17:24:35] aude: another deploy question: how configs are deployed? specifically, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/311206/ [17:24:39] swat [17:24:50] unless it's something big or special [17:24:51] yeah, that would be nice… but is not trivial from here :/ [17:25:19] SMalyshev: does that need a script run? [17:25:34] aude: well, it's kinds big... I don't know :) it's a new functionality which we never enabled before and can properly test only on real wikidata [17:25:54] yeah, this is not something that works on beta? or test.wikidata? [17:25:54] aude: no script, just add the config and verify the world doesn't break :) [17:26:01] since there is no query service for those [17:26:14] aude: well, the code works, but the config is useless for beta since it is linked to Q-ids [17:26:28] yeah [17:26:35] and since the code relies on config, writing one for beta is useless [17:26:49] normally we would at least deploy to a canary server to verify the world doesn't break :) [17:26:56] I tested it locally etc. but never tested *this particular* one [17:26:56] before deploying to everywhere [17:27:15] aude: if canary runs wikidata then it would be great way yes [17:27:22] I mean production data [17:28:33] i don't know if deploying needs either hoo or myself around, if it's during swat [17:29:23] aude: if you'll be around today for evening swat we could try to do it? [17:29:44] if you want me around, then morning tomorrow maybe or evening on wednesday or thursday [17:29:53] hmmm... [17:29:58] maybe swat this evening [17:30:05] I can be around tomorrow, but not today [17:30:06] aude: ok cool :) [17:30:07] morning = european swat to me [17:30:11] which probably isn't good for you [17:30:16] internet on the train is not stable enough for this [17:30:26] aude: 6am is a bit early to me. I'd be less that alert [17:30:27] evening = late afternoon SF [17:30:51] but 4pm pdt is great for me [17:30:59] probably not today, since i'm driving back to NYC tonight [17:31:11] and probably busy packing + eating :) [17:31:18] aude: ah, ok, how about tomorrow? [17:31:33] also do we know if JsonUnitStorage is already deployed? [17:31:44] wednesday would work for sure [17:31:59] aude: Think it's not, but not 100% sure [17:32:13] then maybe thursday is best [17:32:15] aude: hmmm good question I assumed it is but now that you say wikidata is on .18 I'm not completely sure anymore [17:32:51] I was assuming it's on .20 like the rest [17:32:59] Geerlings: well, you can go through the non-patrolled recent changes: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hidepatrolled=1 [17:33:18] not until wednesday, and then will be wmf.21 [17:33:55] aude: should we update https://tools.wmflabs.org/versions/ so it tells the truth then? [17:34:06] aude: Do you have time to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313380 ? [17:34:06] Before the cut? [17:34:06] because it says wikidatawiki is on wmf.20 [17:34:07] Or shall we backport the quick workaround again? [17:34:59] well, we just need to make Wikidata (the build) surface it's version properly [17:35:08] Wikidatawiki is on wmf20 [17:35:12] just our build is on wmf18 [17:35:30] now I'm confused [17:36:04] * its version [17:36:19] hoo: looking at it now [17:36:38] Well, everything is on wmf20 (MediaWiki, …) except Wikidata (our build) (which includes Wikibase etc.) [17:36:47] So our build is called Wikidata, like the website [17:37:07] hoo: oh, so Wikidata is on wmf20 of mediawiki, but wmf18 of wikibase [17:37:09] I see [17:37:13] mediawiki/extensions/Wikidata [17:37:15] that's the build [17:37:22] yeah, basically [17:37:52] but Special:Version doesn't really show this [17:39:16] also unlike other extensions Wikibase does not have link to commit [17:39:59] Wikidata Build does have it but it links to commit from 06/05/2014 [17:40:09] that's because Wikibase is only in the Wikidata build/ extension [17:40:09] but Wikidata could have that [17:40:09] not sure it has [17:42:49] it would be nice to have a "View source" option on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Wikidata [17:42:52] when logged in as admin [17:43:03] scary to click edit source when i just want to look [17:43:26] suppose action=raw would work [17:44:00] aude: yeah the same is true for templates, I usually have to do "edit" to just view the source [17:46:44] or switch to incognito mode / logged out [17:47:27] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147213 [17:47:39] who knows, might be a duplicate but i couldn't find a task for this [17:54:25] thanks, aude :) [18:06:54] Anyone in here from The Scripps Research Institute trying to import chemicals? Your bot is logged out..... [18:08:17] Geerlings: Maybe better channel, have a look at https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?namespace=&tagfilter=new+editor+changing+statement&translations=noaction&hideliu=1&title=Special%3ARecentChanges [18:18:39] hoo: i can make the deployment branch now [18:19:01] Should be fine [18:43:19] multichill: will you at least join me on October 29th in Utrecht? :) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Fourth_Birthday [18:43:54] * aude should organize a wikidata meetup in NYC :) [19:07:38] sjoerddebruin: Oh, that's nice! [20:08:55] is there any design pattern that was used in creating the wikibase ? [20:13:57] I need to go but if anybody has an answer... I'll check the log any way (: [21:18:25] WikidataFacts: Thanks for the link to the non-patrolled recent changes. I was thinking more along the lines of "is there a structured system in place by which we, as humans, organize the patrolling of edits such that all anonymous contributions get manual inspection" or vandalism detection bots or things like that. [21:41:14] Geerlings: check out #wikidata-vandalism [21:41:48] a bot posts suspect edits there [22:01:25] SMalyshev: Thanks. I'll have a look. [22:36:46] Lydia_WMDE: boooooooooooo why take offline before I can look at it?