[00:15:26] is there a way to auto-redirect people to their language (based on browser headers, whatever) article based on Wikidata Q#id [00:15:29] ? [00:16:29] not really [00:16:58] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:GoToLinkedPage :/ [00:18:02] I'd like to give people a language-neutral link...don't wanna just link to enwp for everything :/ [00:20:10] Pretty sure there's a bug for that [00:20:50] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72159 [00:31:17] hoo: I'll take a stab at it, thanks. [08:59:33] I documented the meaning of follows/followed by in the context of software at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/FLOSS#follows.2Ffollowed_by . Is this how it should be done ? Or do I have that backwards for some reason ? I'm still new to how things are done and any input would be much appreciated. [09:09:11] Tpt: would you have time to review https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#Software_quality_assurance by any chance ? [09:10:54] dachary: sure [09:38:01] Tpt: thanks ! [09:38:32] dachary: it would be nice to look for existing ontologies/vocabularies related to sofware [09:38:43] Lydia_WMDE: do you have someone who can do a quick review of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Nikki/CoordinateDiffMap.js [09:38:46] in order to don't reinvent the wheel [09:49:44] Tpt: I looked hard and could not find anything. That's not to say it does not exist, just that I did not find it :-) [09:49:53] ok :-) [09:51:45] Tpt: there are items related to software quality assurance, a few of them. But I could not find a meaningful property to relate those items to a software. I guess we could use "subject of" (i.e. software is subject of quality assurance with reference URL set to the description of the quality assurance process). [09:53:02] addshore: "subject of" (P805) has not this meaning [09:53:03] P805 Tools things to exclude in initial copy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P805 [09:53:18] but the overall idea seems good to me :-) [09:54:37] you mean the overall idea of having a software quality assurance property ? [09:54:40] Tpt: ^ [09:54:56] yes :-) [09:55:24] cool. Your comment made me realize that the type should probably be an item and not a URL ( I replied to your comment ). [09:56:20] nikki: do you use the EasyQuery gadget? [09:56:51] ah right, "subject of" is meant to be a qualifier, my bad [09:57:02] no [09:57:08] why? [09:57:25] I was wondering if you can make something similar for coordinates. [09:58:13] And btw Amir1, can you make it close while pressing the esc key? ;) [09:58:52] sjoerddebruin: hey, I should take a look [09:59:01] I'm not sure, OOjs UI is complicated :D [09:59:14] Yeah, but the code seems very clean for a OOjs UI script [10:49:07] Here we have a large list of wrong IDs... https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P402#.22Format.22_violations [10:50:01] Could it be added explicitly to the next Wikidata weekly summary? [10:51:07] Ping Lydia_WMDE [10:52:17] Lydia_WMDE has been idle for 14 hours, 15 minutes, 8 seconds, not sure if she's in the office today [10:52:59] Just add it to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next, we're still a collabrative project :) [10:53:08] No problem, that's not an urgent task, but an important one :) [10:53:15] Haha, okay, thanks [10:53:55] is it just me or is the "fewer languages" link broken now? [10:53:57] not the only one that need attention https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/Mandatory_constraints/Violations&curid=19873654&action=history [10:54:06] nikki: still works here [10:54:12] (although yay at it saying fewer instead of less. that had been annoying me :P) [10:54:31] does it work on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12646500 too? [10:54:34] oh wait, I can expand but not fold [10:54:38] yeah [10:55:42] We need to force mandatory constraints as a part of the Wikidata interface as soon as possible :S [10:56:09] Jup, half baked work from students. :( [10:56:10] Uncaught TypeError: this._moreLanguagesItems.forEach is not a function [10:56:22] * aude thinks Lydia_WMDE is in a meeting [10:56:42] Ah, ok [10:58:08] aude: you changed the wording, didn't you? [10:58:50] nikki: we did though not sure / don't think that's related to the bug [10:59:18] i think we changed some other code related to the "other languagse" [10:59:22] * aude checks [10:59:23] oh, I didn't mean it was related, I just meant I'm pleased about it :D [11:00:01] oh :) [11:00:21] someone pointed that out to me last week at a hacka[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[Dthon [11:00:47] I'd considered making a ticket but felt silly doing that for a single word [11:05:50] abian: all the ones I've checked so far have been nodes/ways :/ [11:07:32] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139732 [11:07:48] So should we move these "404 IDs" to another properties? [11:08:23] we don't have properties for nodes/ways because they're not considered stable enough, we recommend adding wikidata ids to osm instead [11:08:41] thanks aude :) [11:08:54] Then, these IDs should be simply removed, right? [11:09:21] yeah [11:09:42] (ideally making sure they get added to osm if they're not there :)) [11:44:52] Thiemo_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/297968/ [11:53:29] sjoerddebruin: hey, Done now: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-EasyQuery.js&diff=355603921&oldid=350139010 [11:53:35] do hard refresh [11:53:47] Thanks! :3 [12:13:45] :) [14:56:28] Office hour coming up, 1 hour to go. [14:57:04] o_O [14:57:28] Right? :) [14:57:33] * aude forgot [14:57:48] Let's hope Lydia_WMDE didn't [15:13:48] I want a pony! [15:14:08] Ask her. :) [15:15:12] Seinfeld. Pony remark seems relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RDLqb3umsw [15:15:18] I want 20 ponies! [15:16:18] sjoerddebruin: :D [15:16:23] i did not forget but was in a call [15:16:26] I would be quite happy if someone from the development team would respond to the first topic on the contact the development team page :/ [15:16:28] thanks a lot for sending the reminder [15:16:41] nikki: uhhh :( i'll have a look in 5 minutes [15:17:27] thanks :) [15:18:05] it's the topic where people are talking about ideas for the problems with a bunch of wikis having more than one page corresponding to an item and we already wrote quite a bit :P [15:22:22] (I know there's no quick or easy solution but some feedback about whether the suggestions would be plausible options at some point in the future would be nice) [15:27:42] nikki: ah ok it is that one. yeah i really need to reply but I need to really read up on what is written and sugegsted now. and i don't think i am able to do that in 5 minutes now :( (also still need to prepare office hour) [15:27:52] i will make it a priority for next week if that is ok [15:28:15] * Lydia_WMDE is so looking forward to an additional person helping with all this [15:29:17] sure, that's no problem, it doesn't need a reply right now, it would just be nice to get one at some point :) [15:29:32] yeah totally [15:29:43] and you should have had one last week already :( [15:35:06] oh well, these things happen. I had just assumed people were still catching up with everything after wikimania :P [15:40:53] that and doing all the interviews [15:42:30] Lydia_WMDE, http://data.wmflabs.org/wiki/Regional_maps [15:42:40] this is what wikidata can do for you :) [15:42:42] aude, ^^ [15:42:52] tobias47n9e__, http://data.wmflabs.org/wiki/Regional_maps [15:42:54] there you go [15:43:01] it has stars :) [15:43:25] ooh stars [15:43:28] heh nice [15:43:36] will have to have a closer look after the office hour [15:43:37] those are way better than boring dots [15:44:10] nikki, yep, i think so too :) [15:44:25] Lydia_WMDE, it even shows you city images ;) [15:44:34] Lydia_WMDE, Just out of interest. How many applied? I was thinking about it, but will stick with my web-dev job for another year. [15:45:17] yurik, Awesome maps. I hope we get those on Wikipedia soon. [15:45:20] tobias47n9e__: 60something so far [15:45:47] tobias47n9e__, my guesstimate - under a month :) [15:45:54] ah, notice that you can click it too :) [15:46:02] Lydia_WMDE, That is allot. I will apply once you guys need a scientific advisor :D [15:46:09] 60ish for what? [15:46:18] tobias47n9e__: :D sweet [15:47:01] sjoerddebruin: community communications - minime :D [15:47:16] Oh yeah, wow. [15:47:42] I wouldn't have a chance then [15:47:42] wikidata and especially you all are a popular growd to work with ;-) [15:47:53] DanielK_WMDE, can we chat briefly? [15:48:20] yurik: not today, sorry [15:48:39] DanielK_WMDE, want to schedule something? [15:48:53] i'm trying to wrap up (unlreated) lose ends with Stas and with Brion in the 3 hours I have left of this week. [15:49:11] send me an invite for next week. thursday, maybe? [15:50:10] DanielK_WMDE, sounds good. Btw, http://data.wmflabs.org/wiki/Regional_maps is the result of my work with Stas [15:50:30] he did queries, i added some graph magic and OSM db [15:50:45] all data-driven [15:51:17] yurik: i shared my calendar with you. tuesday or thursday looks good [15:51:39] yurik: oh, are those capitals of countries/regions? [15:51:49] nikki, yep [15:54:45] hm, the borders for islands look odd [15:55:00] I didn't even recognise indonesia, I thought it was broken because it looks like one big island :/ [15:56:04] office hour in 5 minutes in #wikimedia-office [15:56:37] nikki, OSM sadly keeps coastal waters as part of the countries' shapes [15:56:42] its a todo [15:56:51] we will need to subtract water polygons [15:57:18] ah [15:57:45] yeah, the current shapes might work for hovering over, but visually it's just odd :) [15:58:00] yeah the netherlands look weird [15:58:29] maybe you were reclaiming more land :P [16:00:12] Relevant: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_-_I_want_a_pony_session_flyer.svg [16:00:20] ding-ding, #wikimedia-office [16:00:25] it seems like some countries are missing too, like the china map is missing thailand [16:00:41] it is cool though, even if there are still some weird things like that :) [16:04:02] I don't understand what the blue means... like china has a bunch of areas which are blue and when I hover over them, it highlights them all and doesn't show any info [16:11:42] nikki, blue means there is no WikidataID-marked OSM region [16:11:53] blue is the country itself [16:12:03] if subregion is missing, it won't draw over it [16:12:08] ah [16:14:38] do you have a list of regions in osm without wikidata ids by any chance? [16:14:57] they shouldn't be too hard to add, finding the right thing to edit in osm seems like the hardest part [16:52:40] Tpt: should I just wait for your followup on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Software_quality_assurance or should I remind you at some point ? I'm new to the process and not sure about the ping frequency that is acceptable. [16:53:36] as you think it's the best [16:53:50] The process isn't very formal ;-) [16:54:25] Tpt: :-) so here it is: are you suggesting that it would make sense to have Comprehensive Knowledge Archive Network (Q977484) → Continuous integration (Q965769) with a reference set to reference URL (P854) → https://github.com/ckan/ckan/blob/master/.circleci-matrix.yml instead ? I think it's sensible. [16:54:25] P854 (An Untitled Masterwork) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P854 [16:55:03] I can rework the proposal accordingly. [16:55:08] dachary: what does "→ " means ? [16:55:12] the new property? [16:55:23] yes [16:56:09] well, for the first "→ " not the second. [16:56:12] * dachary mumbles [16:56:18] yes :-) [16:56:30] ok, looks good to me! (but I'm not sure than P854 as qualifier is the best as it's supposed to be used in references [16:56:31] P854 (An Untitled Masterwork) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P854 [16:58:35] Tpt: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P854 example suggests it can be used as a qualifier. Or am I reading that incorrectly ? [16:58:35] P854 (An Untitled Masterwork) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P854 [16:59:01] dachary: it's because of the example system [16:59:17] hum, you mean it should be URL https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2699 instead, right ? [16:59:18] P2699 cassandra-env.sh_2.1.13_2.2.5.diff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P2699 [16:59:26] maybe [16:59:30] but it's very broad [16:59:38] got it [16:59:41] I'm not sure how to do it well [17:00:18] * dachary revising [17:12:39] Tpt: here is the amended version https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%3AProperty_proposal%2FSoftware_quality_assurance&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=355720980&oldid=355559206 [19:44:37] Nobody has ever added the notable speakers to the Wikimania item. I added Jimmy Wales here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19291990 [21:16:24] Does anyone here have experience with the WikidataQuery API? [21:16:52] I'm having trouble using it with pywikibot. [22:54:55] ksft: what kind of trouble? [22:55:28] SMalyshev: I'm doing `generator = pg.WikidataQueryPageGenerator('CLAIM[373] AND LINK[enwiki]',wd)` [22:55:33] `wd` is Wikidata [22:55:37] that runs [22:55:44] then `generator.next()` doesn't return [22:55:52] it just hangs [22:56:51] I can run it on PAWS, and I can use the web interface for WikidataQuery, but when I run that on my computer, it doesn't work. [23:00:09] I wonder if it's not too many items there? maybe it just takes a lot of time to load?