[09:19:56] <aharoni>	 Hallo
[09:20:31] <aharoni>	 Some people here may be interested to know that the infobox template for geography of a country int he Hebrew Wikipedia was adapted to Wikidata
[09:24:33] <rom1504>	 how does that work ?
[09:25:10] <rom1504>	 fields get automatically queries from wikidata when you look at the wikipedia page ?
[09:25:14] <rom1504>	 *queried
[09:25:54] <aharoni>	 rom1504: yes
[09:27:43] <aharoni>	 See Geography of Germany for example: https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%92%D7%90%D7%95%D7%92%D7%A8%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%94_%D7%A9%D7%9C_%D7%92%D7%A8%D7%9E%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%94
[09:27:56] <aharoni>	 View the source—the first line is just a template call without parameters.
[09:27:59] <aharoni>	 Wikidata is awesome.
[09:28:15] <aharoni>	 It makes the articles' code much more maintainable.
[09:28:27] <aharoni>	 It makes the templates' even worse than in the past, however ;)
[09:45:06] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Anybody in the office for a daily?
[09:45:26] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: Whats your time scale for today?
[09:45:46] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: As usual
[09:46:04] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Leaving about 4pm?
[09:46:59] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Bit earlier
[12:14:55] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/292129 <-- this still contains a mistake, I believe. Am I wrong?
[12:15:46] <Adrian_WMDE>	 You might be right
[12:15:59] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: Currently reviewing https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/294687 Should be simple. Code moved around but is not really changed, correct?
[12:16:13] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Yes
[12:16:29] <Adrian_WMDE>	 I just got lazy when I first introduced the ViewFactory and didn't convert everything to it
[12:16:32] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Ok. Give me 15min, I may ask questions then. Ok?
[12:17:27] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Sure
[12:34:31] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: 2 questions in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/294687
[12:35:06] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 I already fixed the JSDoc thing.
[12:35:13] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 So only 1 question.
[12:36:31] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 I guess the CSS class names comes from the backend template now.
[12:37:32] <Adrian_WMDE>	 answered
[12:51:09] * aude waves :)
[13:00:53] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 aude: Hi. Btw, anything for the scrum-of-scrums today?
[13:02:17] <aude>	 Thiemo_WMDE: not from me
[13:24:09] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: Still there? Next patch is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/291861 and I do not understand the idea behind it.
[17:07:57] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Lydia_WMDE: Around? I'm searching the most relevant wiktionary ticket we have. Is it https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T986 ?
[17:37:29] <yurik>	 DanielK_WMDE, can we chat in half an hour?
[18:56:47] <yannf>	 hi
[18:56:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 hey
[18:57:03] <eurodyne>	 hi yannf
[18:57:03] <yannf>	 is there a property for Wikisource category?
[18:57:15] <yannf>	 categories
[18:57:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 I don't think so, I think you can just use the regular ones we have for categories.
[18:58:04] <yannf>	 which is?
[18:58:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P910?
[18:58:32] <stashbot>	 P910 Masterwork From Distant Lands - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P910
[18:58:38] <sjoerddebruin>	 ignore stashbot pls
[18:59:09] <yannf>	 https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Cat%C3%A9gorie:R%C3%A9volution_russe 
[18:59:48] <sjoerddebruin>	 maybe it will help more if you tell me what you want to do :)
[19:00:22] <yannf>	 add an entry for this cat, so that it gets interwikis
[19:00:32] <sjoerddebruin>	 I think you can just add it to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6910979
[19:00:36] <yannf>	 about the Russian revolution
[19:01:01] <yannf>	 ah ok
[19:01:56] <yannf>	 something else
[19:02:11] <yannf>	 looking for an entry for the author of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gorine_-_La_R%C3%A9volution_russe_de_1905.djvu
[19:02:50] <yannf>	 not sure about the spelling
[19:03:07] <yannf>	 Pavel Osipovič Gorin?
[19:03:20] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yep, and some other variants here: http://viaf.org/viaf/64057872/
[19:06:51] <yannf>	 yes
[19:07:20] <sjoerddebruin>	 Pretty sure you can create a notable item with those.
[19:07:32] <tobias47n9e_>	 Anyone know how I can call an arbitrary Wikidata item from Lua code?
[19:07:59] <tobias47n9e_>	 I don't want to use the one that is connected to the Wikidata item (for example a test page that anyway has no connected item)
[19:08:43] <sjoerddebruin>	 tobias47n9e_: just wikibase.getEntity( 'Q' )?
[19:08:50] <yannf>	 sjoerddebruin, ok thanks
[19:09:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 different options are just listed here, or am I wrong? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Client/Lua#mw.wikibase.getEntity
[19:09:22] <tobias47n9e_>	 sjoerddebruin, Thanks. Couldn't find that anywhere and I am so new to Lua that I don't know where to look :)
[19:09:33] <yannf>	 I am a bit surprised there isn't any entry yet, he is quite notable http://nasb.gov.by/eng/members/academicians/gorin.php
[19:09:46] <sjoerddebruin>	 tobias47n9e_: that page came up as second or something when searching for "wikidata lua" on Google
[19:10:09] <sjoerddebruin>	 yannf: Yeah, weird.
[19:10:24] <tobias47n9e_>	 sjoerddebruin, I searched for wikidata lua arbitrary access and was less successful :/
[19:10:55] <sjoerddebruin>	 Well it would be weird to me if the basic functions would only allow input from the connected item.
[19:12:53] <tobias47n9e_>	 sjoerddebruin, I really just started learning Lua today. But I thought I heard that that was possible. I am tackling this bug here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76229
[19:13:33] <sjoerddebruin>	 Great! :)
[19:13:35] <yannf>	 "SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input" <- what's that?
[19:13:42] <sjoerddebruin>	 yannf: where?
[19:13:54] <tobias47n9e_>	 And here is the start: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Infobox_Tutorial - I actually wanted to write it during the Wikimania Hackathon, but I had to explain SPARQL to a few people and didn't get to anything.
[19:14:30] <yannf>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25110347 when adding "instance of" -> human
[19:14:46] <sjoerddebruin>	 yikes
[19:15:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 where is hoo when you need him...
[19:15:47] <sjoerddebruin>	 i'll see what happens if i create a new item
[19:16:29] <yannf>	 sjoerddebruin, there is one already https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17044050
[19:16:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 same, will create phab task
[19:16:45] <sjoerddebruin>	 yannf: oh, without latin labels... great
[19:18:25] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138974
[19:18:52] <yannf>	 could you delete https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25110347 plz
[19:19:17] <sjoerddebruin>	 done
[19:20:47] <yannf>	 thnaks
[19:21:04] <yannf>	 now same error every time :( SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input
[19:21:13] <sjoerddebruin>	 yeah, everywhere
[19:23:37] <sjoerddebruin>	 Not sure if Lydia_WMDE is still up. :)
[19:25:26] <matej_suchanek>	 sjoerddebruin: wish I could reproduce it
[19:26:20] <sjoerddebruin>	 You don't have problems? I don't see any added statements in your contribs
[19:27:00] <sjoerddebruin>	 "SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected end of data at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data"
[19:27:03] <sjoerddebruin>	 all kinds of errors
[19:27:25] <matej_suchanek>	 this again...
[19:27:39] <matej_suchanek>	 I am sure there was similar problem few weeks ago
[19:27:56] <matej_suchanek>	 the most important thing is in console
[19:28:02] <matej_suchanek>	 Use of the "edit" token is deprecated. Use "csrf" instead.
[19:28:41] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh right, I was only looking at the console errors tab
[19:28:56] <matej_suchanek>	 certainly caused by deployment train which happens on Wednesdays
[19:29:08] <matej_suchanek>	 so a rollback is very likely
[19:30:08] * aude panics
[19:30:24] <matej_suchanek>	 aude: thank God for you
[19:30:26] <aude>	 we didn't deploy new wikidata code so not sure what's wrong :(
[19:31:08] <aude>	 use of "edit" token warning is not new (we should fix it though)
[19:32:07] <sjoerddebruin>	 Weird that there are no complaints in the project chat yet. :O
[19:32:52] <bamyers99>	 take a look at Special:RecentChanges, not statements have been added for a while
[19:33:06] <sjoerddebruin>	 yeah, I was checking that
[19:33:28] <sjoerddebruin>	 wondering if it also is blocking adding statements via API, that will be annoying as fuck
[19:34:21] <aude>	 we are reverting the code on wikidata until we fix
[19:34:32] <aude>	 test.wikidata is similarly broken, so we will still be able to debug
[19:37:00] <yannf>	 sjoerddebruin, probably yes, tried adding Authority control, and it is stucked
[19:37:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yikes, better write a message then. When was the deploy aude?
[19:37:28] <aude>	 adding statements should work again
[19:37:36] <matej_suchanek>	 aude: it is, thanks
[19:37:40] <matej_suchanek>	 *does
[19:38:04] <matej_suchanek>	 and the console report is still there, so it was irrelevant as aude said
[19:38:15] <aude>	 we still still fix the token issue
[19:38:35] <matej_suchanek>	 maybe sjoerddebruin could remove that comment on Phab
[19:39:44] <sjoerddebruin>	 Edited to reflect the current status.
[19:41:26] <SMalyshev>	 aude: is it normal that vendor/data-values is now present both under extensions/WikidataBuildResources and extensions/WikidataBuildResources/extensions/Wikibase/vendor/ ? or my checkout is out of sync?
[19:42:49] <aude>	 not normal
[19:43:01] <aude>	 maybe you ran composer install under wikibase?
[19:43:17] <SMalyshev>	 aude: so which one should be there? resouces one or wikibase one?
[19:43:50] <SMalyshev>	 aude: I don't remember doing it, but who knows... that install had a lot done to it. so under Wikibase there should be no vendor/?
[19:44:01] <aude>	 resources
[19:44:14] <aude>	 if you are using the build, which seems the case
[19:46:29] <sjoerddebruin>	 aude: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Temporary_outage_of_adding_statements
[19:47:06] <aude>	 just updated my local install of mediawiki and now have the bug
[19:47:10] <aude>	 sjoerddebruin: thanks
[19:47:26] <sjoerddebruin>	 Maybe I should take that communcation job... ;)
[19:49:17] <aude>	 :)
[20:11:34] <SMalyshev>	 PHP Notice:  The specified value for the Wikibase setting 'entityNamespaces' uses content model ids. This is deprecated. Please update to plain entity types. [Called from Wikibase\Repo\WikibaseRepo::fixLegacyContentModelSetting in /vagrant/mediawiki/extensions/WikidataBuildResources/extensions/Wikibase/repo/includes/WikibaseRepo.php at line 1753] in
[20:11:34] <SMalyshev>	 /vagrant/mediawiki/includes/debug/MWDebug.php on line 309
[20:11:44] <SMalyshev>	 anybody knows why I'm getting this now?
[20:11:56] <SMalyshev>	 and how to fix it?
[20:12:51] <aude>	 SMalyshev: think we changed it in production
[20:13:07] <SMalyshev>	 aude: so what it should be instead? should vagrant be updated then?
[20:13:11] <aude>	 needs to be also changed in mediawiki-vagrant
[20:13:55] <aude>	 like https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-mediawiki-config/blob/master/wmf-config/Wikibase.php#L53
[20:14:03] <aude>	 and needs to be set in both client and repo now
[20:14:22] <aude>	 the old settings should still work, and if you prefer, make a task 
[20:14:42] <SMalyshev>	 I'll try to patch my vagrant if it works I'll make a patch
[20:15:25] <SMalyshev>	 aude: should it be also changed from wgWBRepoSettings to wgWBSharedSettings?
[20:15:51] <SMalyshev>	 or just copied?
[20:16:53] <aude>	 copied would be ok
[20:17:21] <aude>	 just they both need to be maintained to be the same, which is why we use shared settings in prodcution
[20:17:37] <SMalyshev>	 aude: hm, but they are like this now: 	$wgWBRepoSettings['entityNamespaces']['wikibase-item'] = NS_MAIN;
[20:17:39] <aude>	 so we don't end up forgetting to update one of them
[20:17:41] <SMalyshev>	 so what's the diff?
[20:17:48] <aude>	 oh
[20:18:52] <aude>	 think it's supposed to be 'item'
[20:19:04] <aude>	 and 'property' (entity types)
[20:19:08] <SMalyshev>	 all examples btw also have NS_MAIN
[20:19:16] <SMalyshev>	 repo/config/Wikibase.example.php
[20:19:24] <SMalyshev>	 client/config/WikibaseClient.example.php
[20:19:58] <SMalyshev>	 I think it needs a better error message :)
[20:20:11] <sjoerddebruin>	 most error messages need that :)
[20:22:50] <aude>	 SMalyshev: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138982
[20:24:12] <SMalyshev>	 aude: ah, I made T138983 in the meantime :)
[20:24:12] <stashbot>	 T138983: entityNamespaces change leads to notices on Vagrant - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138983
[20:24:55] <SMalyshev>	 feel free to merge/split as needed, there's at least 4 things needing to be done there
[20:27:35] <SMalyshev>	 ah, wait, I'm wrong - examples are fine
[20:28:01] <SMalyshev>	 in repo, but not in client
[20:31:53] <aude>	 SMalyshev: ok
[20:41:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: aude: you're the best
[20:41:17] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thank you
[20:41:22] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sorry - i just got home
[20:41:34] <sjoerddebruin>	 np
[20:41:53] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 hi Lydia_WMDE !
[20:42:17] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hey Harmonia_Amanda :)
[20:42:43] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 so sad I couldn't come to wikimania :s
[20:42:49] <ajr>	 yes :(
[20:43:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Harmonia_Amanda: indeed!
[20:43:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :(
[20:43:28] <sjoerddebruin>	 If there was only one way to meet Wikidata people all at one place...
[20:43:31] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/296648/
[20:43:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: :P   I've been poking people to see what we can do about it
[20:43:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aude: looking
[20:44:00] <aude>	 i don't expect it to be merged tonight but if someone could look tomorrow, that would be helpful
[20:44:06] <sjoerddebruin>	 Lydia_WMDE: Great, will remind you every week. ;)
[20:44:11] <aude>	 then we can backport and re-deploy wmf.8 to wikidata
[20:44:19] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aude: ok cool
[20:44:19] <repking>	 sjoerddebruin: and WikiCite ? :-P
[20:44:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: ohnoes! What did i start? :D
[20:44:29] <sjoerddebruin>	 repking: of course :)
[20:46:12] <SMalyshev>	 hmm weird... now I get Failed to decode as application/json on Main_Page in my wikidata setup
[20:46:25] <SMalyshev>	 why it tries to decode regular page as JSON?
[20:46:54] <repking>	 SMalyshev: content-type header?
[20:47:09] <SMalyshev>	 repking: what do you mean?
[20:47:13] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lydia_WMDE: hmm, did you wrote an email, like several weeks ago, about what lists redactors on WP would want of wikidata?
[20:47:42] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Harmonia_Amanda: yes
[20:49:26] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 because i use wikidata on wikinews and what I would really love to see is a way to facilitate queries about qualifiers. I'm workin on awards, which are stocked on wikidata like this : Qid P166 SpecificAward O805;TheCeremony
[20:49:32] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 P805*
[20:49:32] <stashbot>	 P805 Tools things to exclude in initial copy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P805
[20:49:34] <repking>	 SMalyshev: just trying to answer your question without context, sorry :-). When <something> tries to decode a page in a format that has no sense it tends to be that either the client or the server are sending that header. But of course, I doubt you are hitting this error
[20:50:01] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lydia_WMDE: and there is no way to generate a table with all "P805: ThisSpecificCeremony" right now
[20:50:01] <stashbot>	 P805 Tools things to exclude in initial copy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P805
[20:50:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Harmonia_Amanda: *nod*
[20:50:53] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lydia_WMDE: and if we could, we could generate tables of recipients for awards on Wikinexs more easily and that would be so great
[20:51:17] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hmmm you should be able to get this with a sparql query... no?
[20:51:17] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 the French Wikinews have already adopted wikidata for sport results
[20:51:32] <Lydia_WMDE>	 nice
[20:51:37] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lydia_WMDE: yes, but not as a template in lua
[20:51:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 oh sure
[20:51:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yes
[20:52:20] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lydia_WMDE: like that: https://fr.wikinews.org/wiki/Courses_de_chiens_de_tra%C3%AEneau_:_les_r%C3%A9sultats_du_Solstice_50
[20:52:30] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 arrgh no
[20:52:35] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 not like that
[20:53:24] <SMalyshev>	 repking: I don't think my browser sends anything unusual
[20:56:13] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lydia_WMDE: well, wikinews want a template like this one; https://fr.wikinews.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Tableau_qualificateurs
[20:56:25] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 whicj doesn't have a documentation ><
[20:56:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thanks!
[20:56:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hehe yeah
[20:56:54] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Tableau_qualificateurs
[20:57:06] <repking>	 SMalyshev: maybe it doesn't sends the Accept: header?
[20:57:07] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 same template on Wikipedia *with* documentation
[20:57:31] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lydia_WMDE: we can't use sparql to power tables like that, I think?
[20:57:35] <SMalyshev>	 repking: I'm pretty sure it sends all the standard things browsers send since forever, nothing special
[20:57:48] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Harmonia_Amanda: with magnus' listeria bot but nothing else yet yeah
[20:58:44] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lydia_WMDE: so well, if we are speaking of making lists with wikidata, an easy way to quary with a specific qualifier (property-value) as a starting point would be a great gift :)
[20:59:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :) makes sense
[21:00:06] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 if I only have to update wikidata then write an introduction and just paste the template to have automatically my results, I would wrote more often for wikinews :D
[21:00:25] <repking>	 Now a question in the air for you people: How do you deal with sparql timeouts?, there's an algorithm you use to simplify the query, or divide etc ?
[21:01:25] <repking>	 SMalyshev: Now the server is sending the wrong data for something down the line, which server are you hitting?
[21:01:37] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 repking: I wept
[21:01:50] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 ... not sure that's helpful, actually
[21:02:21] <SMalyshev>	 repking: my own vagrant install
[21:05:18] <repking>	 Harmonia_Amanda: sure that was my strategy, but tears tend to break my keyboards. This is the fourth in a week 
[21:06:17] <Mattho69>	 Harmonia_Amanda: fixed
[21:06:30] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Mattho69: thanks!
[21:06:58] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 so Lydia_WMDE I want to be able to do that with awards: https://fr.wikinews.org/wiki/Copper_Basin_300_:_Matt_Hall_remporte_la_victoire
[21:07:07] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 an automatic table!
[21:07:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 *nod*
[21:08:01] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 :)
[21:08:07] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Mattho69: many thanks
[21:08:41] <repking>	 SMalyshev: oops, sorry I can't help :-(
[22:24:49] <SMalyshev>	 aude: do you know if anything changed recently in content model handling in wikidata?
[22:26:01] <SMalyshev>	 I'm getting page which has model wikitext parsed as wikibase-item and I have no idea why