[09:08:01] <addshore>	 its a Lydia_WMDE !
[09:08:09] <sjoerddebruin>	 o/
[09:13:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hey :)
[09:20:36] <addshore>	 Interesting, I have a feeling BotNinja was editing at around 2k edits per min earlier!
[09:21:53] <sjoerddebruin>	 a lot of taxons, right?
[09:26:05] <addshore>	 too many changes to read through to look ;)
[09:31:25] <Adrian_WMDE>	 addshore: You interested in doing a Wikidata build?
[09:31:38] <Adrian_WMDE>	 We just fixed an issue and I'd like to verify it gone
[09:38:13] <Adrian_WMDE>	 addshore: Did you get my msg?
[09:38:22] <addshore>	 *waves*
[09:38:36] <addshore>	 Hmmm, I'm not sure I can actually reemmber how ;)
[09:38:52] <addshore>	 give me 2 ticks and I'll see!
[09:40:24] <addshore>	 Adrian_WMDE: running I think
[09:40:29] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Nice, thanks!
[09:40:55] <addshore>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/284147/
[09:41:30] <addshore>	 you just have to ssh to wikidata-builder1.wikidata-build.eqiad.wmflabs then su wdbuilder then read the cron and run what it runs daily ;)
[09:45:30] <addshore>	 sjoerddebruin: they were mainly setting descriptions!
[09:45:38] <sjoerddebruin>	 addshore: nice!
[11:56:09] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 aude: in the hangout now. we'll start in a few minutes
[12:16:21] <addshore>	 You've probably already seen this, but a friendly reminder just to be on the safe side: We won't be able to edit the wikis for about half an hour or so today because of some testing.
[12:16:21] <addshore>	 This starts in about two hours. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/Server_switch_2016
[12:48:07] <Sarayan>	 Hi, can someone explain https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q46459 ?  As it, what is it, how does it happen?
[12:52:03] <Sarayan>	 I didn't think a label-less item was possible in the first place
[13:16:02] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Sarayan: it has labels …
[13:18:16] <hoo>	 Property type conversions (string -> identifier) kind of slept in :(
[13:21:37] <hoo>	 aude: jzerebecki: Who of you will be around during the switchover, if any?
[13:29:12] <Sarayan>	 Adrian: Oh, I see, russian label
[13:36:03] <hoo>	 addshore: Are you currently working on "ACCELL cache SiteLinkTargetProvider sorted site list"?
[13:36:09] <hoo>	 If not, I'll check it out and give it a try
[13:36:43] <addshore>	 hoo: there is a patch up
[13:36:53] <hoo>	 addshore: Yeah... that's what I quoted
[13:36:59] <addshore>	 but I cant determine why the tests are failing, they pass for me and thiemo locally
[13:37:00] <hoo>	 can I mangle it or are you atm?
[13:37:06] <addshore>	 so not actively working on it right this second
[13:37:11] <addshore>	 yeh go for it!
[13:37:16] <hoo>	 Ok, I'll give it a shoot
[13:37:17] <addshore>	 mangle away! :D
[13:37:18] <hoo>	 * shit
[13:37:20] <hoo>	 * shot
[13:37:24] <addshore>	 xD
[13:55:05] <hoo>	 Replication lag alert in a bit is expected due to eqiad-codfw switch over, just saying
[13:55:11] <hoo>	 * dispatch
[14:00:11] <addshore>	 yup :)
[14:00:47] <addshore>	 also lack of bring able to edit alert in a sec ;)
[14:00:57] <addshore>	 hoo: dispatch might not even go up that much ;)
[14:01:00] <hoo>	 Do we ahve these?
[14:01:04] <hoo>	 addshore: It will
[14:01:12] <addshore>	 not if no edits are happening?
[14:01:13] <hoo>	 we count the limit time wise
[14:01:17] <hoo>	 not by number of edits
[14:01:19] <addshore>	 oh wait, i guess time will go up yes!
[14:01:38] <hoo>	 so one old edit in the queue and "boom" (well not boom, but the alert will be panicking)
[14:21:40] <addshore>	 hoo: interestingly the lag has stopped at 4 mins? :P
[14:22:15] <hoo>	 hm... maybe it does the delta between the last change and the latest dispatch time
[14:22:19] <addshore>	 yeh xD
[14:22:30] <addshore>	 thats hillarious xD
[14:22:30] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Sarayan: i don't know what it is, but I see a Russian and a Kazakh label
[14:23:31] <addshore>	 interestingly hoo the WDQS lag also spikes in a no write situation, as that uses the timestamp of the last thing written to the store!
[14:24:14] <DanielK_WMDE>	 addshore, hoo: iirc, dispatch lag is indeed defined as number of seconds between the timestamp of the newest change made, and the timestamp of the newest change that was dispatched.
[14:24:27] <DanielK_WMDE>	 it's just for *dispatching*. Not for processing changes on the client side.
[14:30:55] <icinga-wm>	 PROBLEM - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on wikidata is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1168 bytes in 0.121 second response time
[14:31:03] <sjoerddebruin>	 kek
[14:39:22] <addshore>	 string(158) "{"servedby":"mw2146","error":{"code":"internal_api_error_JobQueueError","info":"[VxZC5grAEHcAAFXzFH4AAABM] Exception Caught: No queue partitions available."}}"
[14:39:48] <addshore>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&format=json&siprop=statistics
[15:07:33] <fnielsen>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23889824 -> Exception encountered, of type "BadMethodCallException" 
[15:10:40] <addshore>	 thanks fnielsen!
[15:10:46] <Stryn>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Server_switch_2016
[15:14:23] <addshore>	 fnielsen: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133048
[15:21:18] <addshore>	 dispatch lag is heading down now :)
[15:22:23] <icinga-wm>	 RECOVERY - wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 300s on wikidata is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1677 bytes in 0.194 second response time
[15:23:46] <addshore>	 all gone :)
[15:28:42] <fnielsen>	 Thanks for T133048
[15:28:42] <stashbot>	 T133048: BadMethodCallException when viewing Q23889824 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133048
[15:34:38] <LL_>	 Hi is this the right place to ask about how to add an item to a template where if the parameter is left empty, it autoimports it from Wikidata?
[15:39:25] <Stryn>	 {{#property:p47}} for example
[15:41:35] <LL_>	 Sorry: specifically I’m trying to recreate the functionality of {{Infobox person}} on a smaller Wikipedia but without using a module. I want the P856 the official website automatically added (unless 1. it doesn’t exist *and* 2. the user hasn’t added their own input)
[15:41:35] <stashbot>	 P856 Second run of convertNamespaceFromWikitext.php on Catalan Beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P856
[15:50:35] <LL_>	 So I’m spitballing like “|website={{#if:{{{website|}}}|{{#property:P570}}|}}|{{website}}} }}}” or something . . .
[15:50:36] <stashbot>	 P570 (An Untitled Masterwork) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P570
[15:50:37] <AsimovBot>	 10[4] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:website
[15:54:36] <Stryn>	 LL_: like this: https://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=K%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4:Stryn/hiekkalaatikko&action=edit
[15:55:03] <Stryn>	 1=website
[15:55:43] <LL_>	 Wow this looks super promising!!!
[16:06:55] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/factoryTypes/9fec4f4 : Thiemo Mättig The build was broken. https://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/124231771
[16:08:37] <LL_>	 I’m so excited thank you, Stryn!!
[16:09:02] <Stryn>	 welcome :)
[16:09:07] <LL_>	 Is there a more elegant way to do this than “|{{#if: {{{website|}}}|Official website: {{{website|}}}|{{#if:{{#property:P856}}|Official website: {{#property:P856}}|}}}}”
[16:09:08] <stashbot>	 P856 Second run of convertNamespaceFromWikitext.php on Catalan Beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P856
[16:09:25] <LL_>	 Do I have to repeat the “Official website: ” part?
[16:37:31] <LL_>	 No matter really—the template is doing exactly what I want. Thank you so much! 
[16:40:57] <Stryn>	 hmm, why https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Valgren shows that the article is not added to Wikidata yet? but it is at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1926802
[17:18:08] <sjoerddebruin>	 Stryn: tried the purging thing already?
[17:18:17] <Stryn>	 yes
[17:18:32] <sjoerddebruin>	 could be a downside of the maintenance, there might be some delays
[18:07:12] <addshore>	 sjoerddebruin: whats occouring? :P
[18:07:25] <addshore>	 something else bubble up from the migration? :O
[18:08:03] <sjoerddebruin>	 Sitelinks don't show up on https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Valgren
[18:08:38] <addshore>	 relates to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1926802 ?
[18:08:53] <sjoerddebruin>	 yes
[18:08:56] <sjoerddebruin>	 purging doesn't help
[18:09:17] <addshore>	 I imagine removing and adding the link again will fix it
[18:09:30] <addshore>	 it will be due to edit still happening on wikidata but job not being able to queue
[18:13:33] <addshore>	 sjoerddebruin: I'll see if I can get a list of all edits that this would have happened for and then see if I can come up with a list of pages and some solution
[18:14:13] <addshore>	 alternatively it could be due to a bit job queue *checks*
[18:14:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 :D
[18:16:46] <addshore>	 sjoerddebruin: tested my theory and re adding it pushed it out to the client https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1926802&action=history , but there must be a nicer solution ;)
[18:17:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 I hope...
[18:18:55] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata_talk:Main_Page&curid=183&diff=323156965&oldid=319142602
[18:20:14] <addshore>	 ohhh, urm, sidebar on what page? ;)
[18:20:21] <sjoerddebruin>	 every!!!!!!
[18:20:52] <addshore>	 oh LOL
[18:23:32] <nikki>	 has anyone else been occasionally and randomly getting something like <wikibase-something-something> where the reference/sitelink counts are supposed to be in the last few days?
[18:23:49] <addshore>	 nikki: oohh, in the last days? or today?
[18:24:14] <nikki>	 last few days, I got it at least four times yesterday and again today
[18:24:43] <addshore>	 do you have a link to somewhere it is happening? or is it just random?
[18:24:45] <nikki>	 random
[18:25:01] <addshore>	 and on reload it does away? and while your logged in or out?
[18:27:12] <nikki>	 reloading does seem to fix it, and while logged in
[18:27:58] <nikki>	 ah, <wikibase-statementview-references-counter> is what it has for the references bit (according to the tab I left open on my laptop)
[18:28:18] <nikki>	 it all still works fine, I can expand/close it and add/remove references, it just has the wrong text
[18:30:07] <addshore>	 sjoerddebruin: vaugly related https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133069#2219340
[18:30:15] <nikki>	 and it doesn't happen very often, I must've opened hundreds of items lately, it just seems to occasionally decide it can't be bothered to count anything :P
[18:30:24] <sjoerddebruin>	 yikes
[18:30:33] <addshore>	 cjfixed now?
[18:30:37] <addshore>	 * sjoerddebruin 
[18:30:51] <sjoerddebruin>	 yes
[18:30:56] <addshore>	 cool
[18:31:00] <sjoerddebruin>	 still cached on some pages tho
[18:31:06] <addshore>	 yeh :/
[18:41:56] <addshore>	 sjoerddebruin: so any edits that happened between roughly 13:55 and 15:10
[18:56:35] <addshore>	 sjoerddebruin: going to write up a ticket now!
[18:56:40] <sjoerddebruin>	 nais
[18:58:13] <addshore>	 its a Lydia_WMDE ! :P