[09:33:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 benestar|cloud: poke :)
[09:34:45] <ander_>	 Hello
[09:35:02] <ander_>	 I would like to locally install wikibase
[09:35:18] <ander_>	 but have no sucess following the documetnation
[09:35:27] <ander_>	 could someone help me please?
[09:46:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ander_: where are you failing?
[09:46:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 (we know the documentation sucks :()
[09:46:39] <d3r1ck>	 Hi Lydia_WMDE 
[09:46:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hi
[09:46:47] <d3r1ck>	 Good morning :)
[09:47:04] <sjoerddebruin>	 Well, good... :/
[09:47:26] <d3r1ck>	 Lydia_WMDE: Thanks for the review you did last time.
[09:47:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 no problem
[09:47:59] <d3r1ck>	 Lydia_WMDE: I will mail all the mentors to do a final review before the deadline so i can submit the final copy of the proposal
[09:48:04] <d3r1ck>	 by mentors i mean including you :)
[09:48:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 awesome :)
[09:48:37] <d3r1ck>	 Lydia_WMDE: I was busy yesterday working on a patch with Hoch, he filed a bug and i was fixing it
[09:48:49] <d3r1ck>	 happy it turned out good
[09:48:53] <Lydia_WMDE>	 \o/
[09:48:54] <d3r1ck>	 Ohhh, and he's here :)
[09:49:34] <sjoerddebruin>	 speaking about the devil...
[09:50:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 he is sitting accross from me right now ;-)
[09:56:39] <d3r1ck>	 Lydia_WMDE: Ohh, thats awesome :)
[09:56:45] <d3r1ck>	 Cool
[09:56:58] <d3r1ck>	 Extend my greetings to him :)
[10:02:00] <d3r1ck>	 hoo: Hi
[10:02:15] <hoo>	 hi d3r1ck
[10:03:00] <d3r1ck>	 hoo: hope you had a good rest yesterday. The day ended well for us both :)
[10:03:55] <hoo>	 I did, thanks for asking
[10:04:22] <d3r1ck>	 Its ok ;)
[10:08:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 I hope I sleep better now thanks to iOS 9.3. :)
[10:11:39] <d3r1ck>	 hoo, Lydia_WMDE, benestar|cloud, sent and email to all the mentors.
[10:21:37] <ander_>	 I install it
[10:21:47] <ander_>	 I run the update script
[10:21:58] <ander_>	 i configure the locasettings
[10:22:04] <ander_>	 and although i get no error
[10:22:13] <ander_>	 the mediawiki lookos exactly the same
[10:22:29] <ander_>	 as if i hadn´t install the wikibase extensionb
[10:23:59] <hoo>	 ander_: Go to Special:SpecialPages
[10:24:07] <hoo>	 Do you see a Wikibase section there
[10:28:02] <ander_>	 Yes hoo
[10:28:09] <ander_>	 I see several wikibase plugins
[10:28:52] <hoo>	 In that case you successfully installed Wikibase, congratulations
[10:29:05] <hoo>	 with Special:NewItem you can create your first item
[10:29:36] <hoo>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128317
[10:31:05] <ander_>	 I got an error: ( ! ) Catchable fatal error: Instantiation of 'Closure' is not allowed in C:\wamp\www\mw\includes\content\ContentHandler.php on line 334
[10:31:15] <ander_>	 I will reinstall everything and try again
[10:37:50] <hoo>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ConstraintReport/Q2345
[10:40:41] <hoo>	 [^<]*
[10:48:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 hoo: what was the cause of outdated info?
[11:01:04] <hoo>	 sjoerddebruin: We didn't update it
[11:01:10] <sjoerddebruin>	 :P
[11:01:11] <hoo>	 I updated it in July
[11:01:14] <hoo>	 and then never again
[11:01:20] <hoo>	 until we got pocked :P
[11:01:34] <hoo>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#Updates_for_Special:ConstraintReport
[11:01:40] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, I saw that
[11:01:59] <sjoerddebruin>	 So, if you update the suggester... Also update the constraint reports. :)
[11:03:07] <sjoerddebruin>	 Or automated updates... :/
[11:04:26] <hoo>	 Automated updates would be lovely
[11:19:47] <addshore>	 its a hoo ! (fancy some easy merges) ? ;)
[11:39:44] <hoo>	 addshore: Yes!
[11:39:51] <hoo>	 although we're out of chocolate
[11:39:57] <addshore>	 check your review guque ;)
[11:40:01] <hoo>	 Someone should create a ticket to restock
[11:40:43] <sjoerddebruin>	 easter chocolate eggs?
[12:08:53] <ander_>	 I have reinstalled and everything is working
[12:10:52] <ander_>	 But please could you update the installation manual to include the links to specialpage:version to check everything is ok and specialpage:create new item?
[12:11:06] <ander_>	 Thanks a lot for your help
[12:11:41] <ander_>	 now i am going to evaluate whether wikibase or smw suits better on my project
[12:32:18] <James_F>	 Hmm. I can't make an edit. Getting "You do not have the permissions needed to carry out this action". Something broken?
[12:32:34] <James_F>	 (Either logged in or out, on two different items now.)
[12:32:44] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hm?
[12:33:17] <James_F>	 sjoerddebruin: Try to add "Mount Smith" as an English alias to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21472164
[12:33:35] <sjoerddebruin>	 no problems
[12:34:13] <sjoerddebruin>	 No IP blocked or something?
[12:34:26] <James_F>	 I might be range blocked...
[12:34:37] <James_F>	 Oh, wait, yeah, my account isn't +sysop on this wiki any more.
[12:34:39] <James_F>	 Bah. :-)
[12:34:47] <James_F>	 Feel like giving me IPBE?
[12:35:56] <sjoerddebruin>	 Jdforrester right?
[12:36:18] <James_F>	 Yeah.
[12:36:35] <sjoerddebruin>	 here you go
[12:37:12] <James_F>	 Yup, works great; thank you, sjoerddebruin.
[12:37:17] <sjoerddebruin>	 np
[16:22:34] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Jonas_WMDE: Waiting for a review for 2 weeks now :( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/276702
[16:26:25] <Lydia_WMDE>	 addshore: i need your help quickly. is it possible that the statements/item graph here is wrong? https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-datamodel-statements
[16:26:40] <Lydia_WMDE>	 the numbers don't add up for me when compared to the statement and item graph
[16:26:46] <Lydia_WMDE>	 there should not be such a dip
[16:36:31] <addshore>	 Lydia_WMDE: not at my laptop right now! Will be in 15 mins! Just buying some food!
[17:05:07] <hoo>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-wmde-scripts/blob/master/graphite/datamodel/statements_per_entity.php
[17:05:17] <hoo>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-wmde-scripts/blob/master/graphite/datamodel/sql/select_statements_per_entity.sql
[17:07:24] <addshore>	 Lydia_WMDE: looking now
[17:09:02] <addshore>	 Lydia_WMDE: do you know of anything happening on the 22nd / 23rd feb?
[17:09:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 addshore: we might have it
[17:09:36] <addshore>	 :D
[17:09:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 addshore: it might be the botrun by maarten that added pageprops to a huge number of items that didn't have it before
[17:09:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 so fuck
[17:09:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 old stats are meh
[17:09:49] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 addshore: apparently, there were quite a few items with no entry in pageprops
[17:09:54] <addshore>	 oh...
[17:10:17] <addshore>	 *goes to look at which numbers come from page props*
[17:10:50] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 addshore: hoo dug up https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-wmde-scripts/blob/master/graphite/datamodel/sql/select_statements_per_entity.sql
[17:11:18] <addshore>	 yup, so thats statement per entity, and then a few other things are calculated from that (such as average)
[17:12:26] <addshore>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-wmde-scripts/blob/10f832d1c0912e07eccc9d8d7a50f48606bb6376/graphite/datamodel/statements_per_entity.php
[17:12:46] <nikki>	 I have a sparql query which is returning old data, is there an existing ticket I should report it on?
[17:13:51] <hoo>	 nikki: How old?
[17:14:00] <hoo>	 Like 2 minutes or several days?
[17:14:01] <nikki>	 12 hours for one item, 3 days for another
[17:14:19] <hoo>	 :(
[17:15:04] <hoo>	 doesn't seem like we have a ticket, yet
[17:15:24] <addshore>	 hoo: DanielK_WMDE_ do we know why page_props was not filled for all entities? O_o
[17:15:35] <hoo>	 Yeah
[17:15:45] <hoo>	 we never propagated it
[17:15:50] <addshore>	 Is it not going to happen again? :P
[17:15:56] <hoo>	 Definitely not
[17:16:04] <hoo>	 if multichill did his homework
[17:16:07] <hoo>	 and I'm sure he did
[17:16:16] <addshore>	 I mean, I could also track the total number of statements from the dumps so we can always compare? ;)
[17:16:28] <hoo>	 'I fyou feel that'S useful
[17:16:55] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 addshore: the number of statements wasn't that far off - but the total number of items was wrong. A lot of entries with 0 claims were missing.
[17:17:30] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 addshore: you could compare the total number of items from pageprops vs the total number of tiems from the page table or stats
[17:17:40] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 cross-check for sanity
[17:17:48] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 that way, we would have caught this problem long ago
[17:18:33] <hoo>	 don't think it's worth bothering
[17:18:56] * addshore will not bother then ;)
[17:22:10] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 addshore: check with lydia. we are basing our KPIs on these measurements. inconsistencies can mess things up big time 
[17:22:46] <addshore>	 I don't think our KPIs use anything affected here though (at this stage)
[17:23:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 not the ones in our dashboard
[17:23:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 but other metrics we need to report
[17:23:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 for fdc and so on
[17:23:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and our board
[17:23:20] <addshore>	 ahh!