[08:51:45] Who's doing the identifier conversion? [09:02:20] sjoerddebruin: why? [09:02:34] Want to know the status. :) [09:02:53] hoo is working on them (mostly) [09:03:12] * aude wants to make sure there is not a problem with them :) [09:04:18] Nope, but I'm not seeing progress so a little bit worried. :) [09:04:38] And one of Magnus tools is down again. -_- [09:06:09] sjoerddebruin: we are doing them in batches, as they get listed in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Addshore/Identifiers/0#good_to_convert [09:07:16] or https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Addshore/Identifiers/1#good_to_convert etc [09:08:13] ah ok [09:09:05] better to be sure about each property we convert, vs. convert and then change our mind and convert back [09:31:54] sjoerddebruin: you can check special:List properties for what is already done for example [09:32:07] sjoerddebruin: the quicker we get things moved to good to convert the better imho [09:32:11] so we get it over with [09:32:13] :) [09:37:37] Why is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P646 makred as an "Eternal identifier" but https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1939 as a string? [09:37:49] Is there anyway I can chnage all these? [09:37:58] or do I need to be an admin? [09:39:51] hehe, the conversion progress is still going on Josve05a. :) [09:40:08] ah ok :) [09:40:30] Anything I could help with, or should I just hang tight? [09:40:48] Some emotional support would be great. :) [09:41:30] sjoerddebruin: http://www.thesishosting.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/funny-pictures-kitten-will-fix-it.jpg [09:41:48] Noehz, I can't resists the catz! [09:43:00] Look at it while you can. Soon Lydia_WMDE will wake up and steal it [09:44:23] Josve05a: if you can help move things to good to convert on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Addshore/Identifiers/0 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Addshore/Identifiers/1 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Addshore/Identifiers/2 that would move things along [09:44:51] also: all of the cats! [09:44:55] all mine [09:44:56] :D [09:46:32] Lydia_WMDE: DO we have a definition of what exactly should count as an external identifier? Like what are the criteria? [09:50:05] Josve05a: it is a bit of a judgement call but what i recommend is looking at a big existing item like barack obama and see what you think should go into the identifier section [09:50:20] for me: anything that helps us identify the same thing in another datatbase for example [09:50:28] so usually number/letter codes [09:50:51] ah, ok :) [09:51:08] got caught here, and will fix tll the violations first :P https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P2168#Unique_value [09:51:50] *cough* https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/Mandatory_constraints/Violations [09:52:19] will work on this first :p [10:23:28] nikki: you there? [10:29:15] Lydia_WMDE: https://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Spielwiese [10:29:30] and https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Sandbox [10:29:48] so maybe they want the one from wikidata or should know they can opt out of the other projects sidebar thing [10:32:19] https://fr.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversit%C3%A9:Bac_%C3%A0_sable [10:32:35] sorry, german doesn't have their own "otherprojects" but french does [10:32:51] and italian [10:33:07] and most [13:09:20] Check out https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19842747 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19842748 (and please don't edit, yet) [13:10:53] multichill: duplicate site links? [13:12:42] only https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19842748 has an enwiki entry in the items per site table [13:13:27] but there is a ptwiki entry for Q19842747 [13:30:21] aude: Yup [13:31:34] aude: Want to keep it for debugging purposes or shall I merge it? ;-) [13:32:46] the pages were created in the exact same second [13:33:05] Q19842748 has a lower page id than Q19842747 [13:33:22] ... [13:33:39] i assume a race condition, like if we are checking items per site with a slave connection [13:34:30] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44325 [13:36:48] which i think i mentioned in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T47839#1954505 (and should fix) [13:38:14] multichill: documented it enough in the relevant tasks, so feel free to fix now [14:05:58] Thiemo_WMDE: https://performance.wikimedia.org/xhgui/run/view?id=56cdb8927ed6ccf971c53b5b [14:20:59] Thiemo_WMDE: https://performance.wikimedia.org/xhgui/run/view?id=56cdbb577ed6ccf971d3fbc4 [15:13:43] Hey nikki, have you saw this before? ;) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16984744#P31 [15:14:36] not that specific item, no [15:14:47] Lot of statements. :O [15:25:05] Also wondering how people can forget to set gender. :P [16:25:46] Is Lydia in the office? If so, please poke her [16:27:55] oo [16:28:03] hoo|busy, she's asking what you want :) [16:33:34] * Lydia_WMDE pokes hoo|busy [19:39:52] hoo|busy: how is the conversion of identifier properties going? [19:40:14] :P [19:40:44] None converted today, but maybe tomorrow or Friday [19:41:47] Would love someone who's into biology to look at the lists... we ahve a few properties with over 1M users that no one seems to have considered for conversion in that area [20:20:14] hoo: We're barely scratching the surface [20:24:25] hoo|away: would be great to convert imdb [21:01:31] hoo|away: I remember told me about the julia programming language once [21:01:42] what exactly is its strength? [21:01:49] or when would one use it? [21:05:41] benestar: tl;dr: It's very convenient to use it, yet it's very fast [22:07:07] hoo|busy: do you know why julia always takes so long to start? [22:07:30] execution time itself is fast but it takes ages until execution actually starts [22:07:57] Yeah, the jit takes ages... although most of the stuff should be in the sysimg already [22:09:47] It greatly improved in recent versions, though (probably in a minor 0.4 release) [23:19:19] ugh... i get a js error from the authority control gadget :( [23:19:50] :( [23:20:07] same here [23:20:52] it doesn't seem to interfere with editing though [23:25:52] no surprise that broke [23:26:03] :/ [23:26:05] we only initialize the snak views when needed now [23:26:20] I would ahve never thought something relied on that, when merging that change :S [23:28:27] aude: I don't see a trivial fix [23:28:53] The way authority control scrapes data is substantially wrong now [23:29:12] well, it has probably ever been, but not we don't have the redundant information in place [23:29:59] hoo|busy: i am not surprised what authority control gadget does :/ [23:30:05] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/269401 [23:30:08] that change broke it [23:30:23] i'll have to look tomorrow + poke adrian [23:30:41] Ok [23:30:57] Can you file a ticket and/or post on the talk page please? [23:32:37] Thanks :) [23:33:15] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128035 [23:33:24] * aude too tired to look into it now [23:33:40] and I should be doing university stuffs [23:33:41] as i say, i can edit stuff w/o problem