[02:21:03] <mdupont>	 can I get an unblock
[02:21:06] <mdupont>	 please
[02:21:17] <mdupont>	 MdupontDataBot
[02:21:36] <eurodyne>	 mdupont: looking
[02:22:12] <mdupont>	 I am developing a new script, this was it's first run
[02:23:13] <mdupont>	 I have patched it to skip all namespaced articles and will be watching it
[02:23:26] <mdupont>	 To git@github.com:h4ck3rm1k3/open-everything-library.git   3e42d46..e0c8220  extractor -> extractor is the new patch
[02:23:57] <eurodyne>	 mdupont: did you put up a request on your talk page?
[02:24:30] <mdupont>	 i just https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MdupontDataBot&oldid=303057140 responded to this thread
[02:24:43] <mdupont>	 about the requst for bots I have one yes
[02:25:01] <mdupont>	 but I am developing new methods all the time
[02:26:23] <eurodyne>	 you're going to have to work it out with the blocking adminb
[02:26:40] <mdupont>	 k
[09:09:13] <Amir1>	 hoo: hey, Can you check the patch again? I'm not sure I'm using waitforReplication correctly
[09:10:49] <hoo>	 Sure, I'll have a look
[09:11:48] <Amir1>	 thanks :)
[10:12:24] <mdupont>	 intgr, sjoerddebruin you guys there?
[10:12:30] <sjoerddebruin>	 mdupont: hi
[10:12:43] <mdupont>	 Ok, I am sorry leaving this bot running when I left for work
[10:13:03] <mdupont>	 I have adjusted the code to remove all namespaced articles
[10:13:17] <mdupont>	 so anything with a : in the name will be skipped
[10:13:39] <Amir1>	 hoo: please check again
[10:13:39] <mdupont>	 the pywikipedia bot is not able to manage these things because it gets a stack overflow
[10:13:45] <Amir1>	 if you have some time
[10:13:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 mdupont: Ah, okay.
[10:13:54] <mdupont>	 it cannot handle deep recursion
[10:13:57] <intgr>	 mdupont: I'm here
[10:14:06] <mdupont>	 I am sorry for causing problems.
[10:14:37] <mdupont>	 can you please unblock my bot and let me continue with the import of software projects
[10:14:51] <sjoerddebruin>	 Okay, be sure to keep a eye on the creations. ;)
[10:15:02] <hoo>	 Amir1: Will do in a sec
[10:15:02] <mdupont>	 I will not leave my children unattended
[10:15:14] <mdupont>	 parents must be with children at all times
[10:15:15] <mdupont>	 :D
[10:15:19] <Amir1>	 awesome
[10:15:39] <sjoerddebruin>	 Great, unblocked.
[10:16:48] <mdupont>	 thx
[10:17:54] <hoo>	 DanielK_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/270255
[10:18:11] <hoo>	 Should we maybe just throw away all of that, now that SULF is done?
[10:37:07] <aude>	 hoo: when are you comign to the office?
[10:37:39] <hoo>	 aude: Will be there in another 2:30h :)
[10:37:44] <aude>	 ok :)
[10:38:06] * aude will not be there for the daily, but will come around 12pm or so
[10:38:19] <aude>	 Thiemo_WMDE: Jonas_WMDE ^ (not sure who is there)
[10:39:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: no daily today. it's just me and Thiemo. 
[10:39:47] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 aude: Only daniel and me in the office. We just did some kind of daily. Do you have something to share right now?
[10:40:12] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 I'm currently working on DataModel 5 and a possible EntityDocument::copy, which currently does not exist.
[10:42:27] <aude>	 ok
[10:43:01] <aude>	 i'm just figuring out how to score labels in search results
[10:43:29] <aude>	 i have it where we stop putting the giant text blob in and instead structured list of labels and descriptions :)
[10:44:12] <aude>	 but now how to adjust the more scoring nicely :)
[10:44:42] * aude runs away :)
[10:44:58] <Jonas_WMDE>	 @aude I am lying in bed :/
[10:45:03] <aude>	 :(
[10:45:30] <hoo>	 scoring is quiet a complex problem, I'm afraid :/
[10:45:35] <aude>	 i also want to check things in the office for our mapping event tomorrow
[10:45:43] <Jonas_WMDE>	 @aude we could arrange a meeting next week for the scoring
[10:45:44] <aude>	 e.g. make sure i know how to setup the projector
[10:58:35] <mdupont>	 GerardM, hoi
[10:58:54] <mdupont>	 sjoerddebruin, it looks like all the items were already processesd
[10:59:16] <mdupont>	 so the next question of notability
[11:00:07] <mdupont>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Directory what about importing the projects from the free software directory
[11:00:19] <mdupont>	 it is a semantic media wiki
[11:00:53] <mdupont>	 are we going to get into notability issues on smaller projects?
[11:03:28] <mdupont>	 so I will start to first enrich the existing articles with information found
[11:03:41] <mdupont>	 before creating new project pages.
[11:14:13] <Amir1>	 hoo: another PS to review ;)
[11:14:56] <hoo>	 Amir1: Will have a look in a bit
[11:15:01] <hoo>	 :)
[11:16:06] <Amir1>	 great :)
[11:30:16] <hoo>	 Amir1: I can't test the script myself, really (without live hacks or setting up the actual service), so you will have to do manual testing yourself
[11:30:50] <Amir1>	 I do the testing for each patchset 
[11:31:30] <Amir1>	 hoo: regarding moving the cache and score to constructor, strangely when I want to run it, it returns not found error
[11:32:11] <Amir1>	 but it works in execute function 
[11:32:35] <hoo>	 That's strange... I think doMaintenance includes the autoloader before doing that
[11:33:13] <hoo>	 but could be that it constructs first, hm
[11:34:01] <hoo>	 well, ok then… the maintenance stuff is pretty awry... for other things we have factory method support
[11:34:03] <hoo>	 but not for this
[11:34:11] <hoo>	 so no way to properly inject anything
[11:35:54] <Amir1>	 so what do you suggest?
[11:36:19] <Amir1>	 should be there, or load autoload classes in construct?
[11:36:42] <hoo>	 Implement get methods that lazy init the fields or just make them function scope variables
[11:36:59] <hoo>	 I think that's the cleanest option we have
[11:37:02] <hoo>	 * options
[11:48:18] <Amir1>	 hoo: Done
[12:19:57] <hoo>	 I'll arrive in a few, cu in the office o/
[12:20:42] <Amir1>	 hoo: added
[12:20:52] <hoo>	 will look after lunch
[12:20:53] <hoo>	 thanks
[12:21:10] <Amir1>	 sure :)
[12:21:12] <Amir1>	 thanks
[12:36:59] <sjoerddebruin>	 Wondering if my internet is slow or Wikidata...
[13:42:31] <JEBMC2>	 Hellooo everybody. Lovin IRC
[13:45:04] <JEBMC2>	 Now we know why Einstein always quoted, "No Problem". The C was a Si.
[14:26:54] <benestar>	 hoo: can you have a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/270283/ ?
[14:27:07] <benestar>	 I wonder if that is actually correct, but it would be cool to get rid of that setting
[14:27:36] <hoo>	 benestar: Will do
[14:53:13] <benestar>	 hoo: when you are already doing reviews, would you mind looking at some more of my patches?
[14:53:21] <benestar>	 all about EntityDocument stuff
[14:54:41] <hoo>	 benestar: Already doing ;)
[14:55:14] <benestar>	 thanks!
[15:10:16] <Amir1>	 hoo: done :)
[15:10:25] <hoo>	 Will have a look, thanks :)
[15:23:55] <hoo>	 Amir1: I think we're good now :)
[15:24:03] <hoo>	 Only have some style stuff left
[15:24:18] <Amir1>	 awesome
[15:24:22] <Amir1>	 I'm fixing them
[15:24:29] <Amir1>	 I test it every time. don't worry
[15:29:11] <Amir1>	 hoo: I fixed
[15:33:26] <hoo>	 here you go :)
[15:33:52] <Amir1>	 yay
[15:33:53] <Amir1>	 thanks
[16:16:54] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE + everyone, reminder https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2016-February/084770.html 
[16:17:03] <aude>	 no more jenkins for a while
[16:25:07] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2016-February/thread.html
[19:39:14] <Amir1>	 a quick question: Does any here knows what proportion of edits in Wikidata are made by bots?
[19:39:15] <Amir1>	 overall
[19:39:21] <Amir1>	 not this month
[19:39:57] <Amir1>	 aude, Lydia_WMDE ^
[19:40:03] <Amir1>	 I need the number urgently :(
[19:41:06] <aude>	 Amir1: bot is recorded in recent changes table but not in revision
[19:41:06] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Amir1: 8:40pm on a friday is a bad time for a question like that
[19:41:30] <sjoerddebruin>	 Based on https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-edits I would say half of the edits
[19:41:32] <aude>	 i could tell you from the recent changes table, but that's not overall
[19:41:48] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Amir1: by "overall" you mean what percentage of revisions was created by a bot, ever? 
[19:42:22] <DanielK_WMDE>	 we can only guess by looking at which users now have the bot flag. but that doesn't mean they did back then, and it doesn't mean that edit was a bot edit.
[19:42:29] <Amir1>	 DanielK_WMDE: I've deadline of research paper in several hours
[19:42:40] <Amir1>	 yes
[19:42:46] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Amir1: then use this month's number
[19:42:56] <Amir1>	 okay
[19:43:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 can you run the query?
[19:43:16] <Amir1>	 I think it's easy
[19:43:16] <aude>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P2611
[19:43:16] <Amir1>	 rc_bot = 1
[19:43:16] <Amir1>	 thanks
[19:43:22] <Amir1>	 yes
[19:43:23] <aude>	 from the recentchanges table
[19:43:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yes
[19:49:04] <Amir1>	 13091793 has been made last month
[19:49:08] <Amir1>	 *edits
[19:49:43] <Amir1>	 54%
[19:49:51] <sjoerddebruin>	 I was close. ;)
[19:51:10] <Amir1>	 :P
[19:51:11] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Amir1: try weighting by abs( rc_new_leng - rc_old_leng )
[19:51:44] <DanielK_WMDE>	 i.e. what part of the content (in bogo-bytes) did bots create
[19:52:07] <Amir1>	 hmm, let me give it a try
[19:52:11] <Amir1>	 I will let you know soon
[19:54:14] <Amir1>	 DanielK_WMDE: do you have the query?
[19:54:48] <DanielK_WMDE>	 not handy, not. and it's not that important to me. I thought it might be interesting to you.
[19:55:20] <Amir1>	 it is 
[19:55:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 well, actually, xcan's you just do SELECT SUM( abs( rc_new_leng - rc_old_leng ) ) FROM recentchanges?
[19:55:47] <sjoerddebruin>	 sigh https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q282275&action=history
[19:55:52] <Amir1>	 I get it
[20:05:54] <Amir1>	 DanielK_WMDE: sql wikidata "SELECT SUM( abs( rc_new_len - rc_old_len ) ) FROM recentchanges;": 3939503666
[20:05:54] <Amir1>	 same for bots: 2337842671
[20:06:24] <Amir1>	 59%
[20:07:27] <DanielK_WMDE>	 same ballpark. sounds about right
[21:21:51] <SMalyshev>	 Does anybody remember - there was a project for making command-line tool to run queries against wikidata sparql endpoint?