[00:34:11] gangleri|i18n: nice :) [10:17:32] Lydia's not in the office? MAYHEM!!! :P [10:17:57] :O [10:17:58] ^^ [10:34:56] whut? i am [10:35:25] my irc bouncer is just constantly diconnecting because of meh wifi [10:35:31] :/ [10:37:37] that's a weird bouncer you got there ! :p [11:03:31] @Lydia_WMDE @Thiemo_WMDE @frimelle https://www.lieferheld.de/lieferservices-berlin/restaurant-thai-huong-snack/98/ [11:09:47] thai sushi ? japan really moved a lot in that earthquake ! [11:12:08] Oh, that time again? ;) [11:16:37] inorite, hunger games have only just started :x [11:24:11] after lunch, i'll ask for a bit of input on how you would solve a tricky question i'm having to work around with my bot ^^" [12:18:15] Oh dear... http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2016/01/19/subject-urgent-warning/ [12:30:40] welp, i think i *may* have found the way to solve my tricky question while eating. pasta : works every time ! [12:50:39] Alphos: I can also recommend taking showers. [12:52:20] showers don't feed. [12:52:27] #captainobvious [15:19:29] Hey! I want to add a property with numbers of pages/articles in a few objects (different language versions of Wikipedia), for example Q200183. Can I use P1104 for this? My initial view is that the P1104 is just for books and other physical media. [15:35:14] Frisko the way i see it, it changes too frequently to be useful as a property of language versions of wikipedia [15:46:50] Alphos Oh okey, A lot of Wikipedia-articles about the different language versions often refer to the number of users and articles. Often these numbers, for the reason you mention, are out of date. My idea was to collect all the numbers on Wikidata so that it becomes easier to keep updated. But perhaps it was a stupid idea, what do you think? [15:48:45] Frisko they're available for each language version in [[Special:Statistics]] ;-) [15:48:54] 10[4] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Statistics [15:49:07] not to mention most of them have it on their main page [15:50:01] again, the speed at which that changes and the insignificance of changes makes the whole thing moot [15:51:25] if needed be, you can on those wikipedia articles have a graph that shows evolution over time. but i somewhat oppose (not too strongly) having that kind of data in wikidata, seeing as it's going to be outdated as soon as it's posted ;) [15:52:15] I know about the Special:Statistics. But I meant articles in one language version, about a different language version. For example: the english article about "Swedish Wikipedia" [15:52:52] i understand [15:53:12] but i did take that into account when giving my last statement ;) [15:53:56] Hm I see [15:54:03] It was just a thought [16:18:57] Lydia_WMDE: can https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124054 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124053 be in the sprint? [16:19:04] gah, where's the lydia! [16:51:08] aude : there's Lydia_WMDE :) [16:52:32] ah, yes :) [16:52:38] send her a mail [17:52:43] addshore i think my bot is stumbling upon more issues like the ones we had yesterday - we'll know more in a few minutes, i'll let him finish his task and publish his report ^^ [17:54:19] (report WITH ERROR MESSAGES IN IT, might i add :D ) [18:06:37] damn, it mostly stumbled upon throttling :-( [18:06:47] i did wait 5 seconds between edits :-( [19:01:52] HakanIST: have you considered applying for sysop rights? [19:29:02] sjoerddebruin yes I suppose [19:36:06] what would be considered a sensible delay between API write calls ? 5 seconds (plus the time needed to perform some API readonly calls) didn't seem to be enoughto avoid throttling [19:52:29] Alphos: hey [19:52:37] Is your bot logged in? [19:53:56] absolutely, it even assert=user [19:54:13] (it'll assert=bot if and when he gets the bot flag) [19:54:13] Does it have a bot flag? [19:54:17] ah ok [19:54:19] not yet, it's pending :) [19:54:32] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/RollBot [19:55:42] ah, I see [19:55:56] rollbacks are specifically throttled for some reason I can't exactly remember [19:56:07] once you have the bot flag that will no longer be an issue [19:56:08] except it's not rollbacking in the strictest sense [19:56:20] it is technically overwriting with the "good version" [19:56:26] I see [19:56:42] (clearing the entity if it's an entity, overwriting the entire page if it's a page...) [19:56:56] Once you have the bot flag, there wont be any kind of throttling for your user [19:57:12] i guess so. in the mean time, since 5 seconds are too low, how about 10 seconds ? [19:57:51] You mean waiting 10s between edits? [19:57:56] yep [19:58:09] That should be fine as not to flood the recent changes to much [19:58:15] it currently has a sleep(5) after every edit [19:58:35] Look at the last bit in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bots#Bot_accounts for when you have the bot flag [19:58:37] (or well, had until a few minutes ago when i changed it to 10) [20:01:16] hoo http://pastebin.com/8pncEAEe request params on top, api response on bottom [20:01:26] (bit too unspecific :D ) [20:01:45] that's really unspecific :( [20:04:54] i know ^^' [20:05:48] oh hold on, i think i may know what happened [20:08:58] i have no way of knowing for sure, but i kinda think rollbot hit the limit for non-autoconfirmed users [20:10:19] well, that's somewhat comforting :-) [20:11:16] Oh, probably [20:11:28] before autoconfirmed the limits are very low