[07:15:12] Good morning, please review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/258679/ (from a Google Code-in student who has been waiting for a while) [08:36:40] addshore: ^ [08:36:43] Nemo_bis: thanks [08:56:55] moin :) [08:57:59] hey aude! [09:17:49] $sumamry :P [09:25:12] $hello [09:31:13] heh [09:31:39] hoo: did you want krinkle to review that patch? [09:32:00] aude: No, not necessary [09:32:17] We already use the new style in the templatemodule thing [09:32:18] ok, gave +1 and can merge it later [09:32:21] yeah [09:42:20] Morning to all. Thanks to Hoo for the quick merges! [09:42:44] Nemo_bis: daniel has been reviewing it :) [09:43:01] I was travelling all day yesterday, but dont worry it is on my radar! [09:43:26] Thiemo_WMDE: :) More coming! [10:16:13] Jonas? [10:17:19] Can you hear me? [10:17:55] Can ANYBODY hear me? [10:25:35] Thiemo_WMDE: I hear you! :P [10:25:56] Freenode has some hiccups the last few weeks. [10:26:01] Ok, thanks. I restarted my Pidgin a few times, now it works. [10:27:01] Lydia_WMDE: around? [10:27:18] Amir1: hey [10:27:39] Can you read my last email re. the anlayst [10:27:42] ? [10:27:55] first: Reference-based analysis is there now, [10:28:04] made some imrpovement s [10:28:27] but my imagination ran out now :D what do you suggest to add? [10:28:58] specially I need to discuss about Gerard's idea [10:29:07] ok give me 10 mins [10:29:19] sure :) [10:33:18] Amir1: i think one thing that is needed still is some intro [10:33:27] for people to understand it more easily [10:34:03] hmm [10:34:05] okay [10:34:14] I'll give it a try [10:34:41] :) [10:35:33] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wd-analyst/sitelink.php gives a 404 for me [10:36:27] Sitelink.php is not ready [10:36:32] ok [10:36:35] I was thinking if we want this at all [10:36:39] depends on you [10:36:46] and it would be nice to give lables for the properties and items as well if possible [10:36:55] i think it'd be nice [10:37:23] labels would make it easier to understand i think [10:37:32] English label or something choose-able? [10:37:42] i'd say start with english [10:37:48] and then see if there is demand for more [10:37:55] probably english is good enough for now [10:38:27] okay [10:39:20] Lydia_WMDE: about intro, Can you elaborate more? what should I introduce? [10:39:38] just 2 or 3 sentences what the tool is and what it does [10:39:50] right now i think it is not clear for someone who hasn't been told [10:40:15] Okay [10:40:24] I try to use some stuff in the announcement [10:41:00] :) [10:41:46] thanks :) [11:01:04] Lydia_WMDE: oh btw. We just deployed a new classifier for wikidata which does AUC 97% (100% perfect, 50% random classifier) the old one was 83% [11:01:19] http://ores.wmflabs.org/scores/wikidatawiki/ [11:04:16] <3 [11:12:49] Lydia_WMDE: don't know what to do against https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2003:66:8F2A:1AF6:C557:135:FB9A:7BDC, would also love to see those people logged in [11:12:53] (mass patrolling now btw) [11:13:02] Amir1: awesome! [11:13:13] sjoerddebruin: yeah :/ [11:13:19] sjoerddebruin: banning until they notice? [11:13:21] :) [11:14:00] Hm, could try. But he/she changes from IP time to time. [11:14:21] let's give it a try for a day or two? [11:18:03] Will try sysop noticeboard for opinions. [11:50:41] Amir1: that is great news! [11:51:03] thanks addshore :) [11:51:08] I hope it works [11:51:25] Aaron was saying "it's too good to be true" :D [11:53:42] haha, well I was going to do some analysis of it at some point :D [11:53:54] aaron said he has an 'amazing' one coming :D [12:19:05] Lydia_WMDE: Wondering why MediaWiki:Wikibase-statementsection-statements is displayed in English when I'm using the Dutch language. [12:19:33] sjoerddebruin: uhhmmmm let me look [12:20:03] It was renamed btw [12:20:07] https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Wikibase-statementsection-statements/nl&action=history [12:20:23] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikibase-statementsection-statements/nl [12:20:29] i guess that is why [12:20:53] Some sync hiccups... [12:21:05] possibly yeah [12:21:05] Would it be fixed with the deploy tomorrow? [12:21:27] there is no deploy tomorrow for all i know because of holidays [12:21:42] but hopefully with the next one yeah [12:22:01] Geez, I hate december. Lack of software updates on all things. :) [12:22:07] :D [12:22:13] i know! it is le terrible [12:23:16] Hm, there are deploys these week on other fronts. [12:23:44] huh? hmmmm. strange [12:23:47] Then we have a three week break, so: don't break stuff. [12:23:56] trying hard! [12:24:17] Also, I have my money btw. :P [12:24:24] \o/ [12:25:14] benestar|cloud: Are you busy atm? Would be great to have the script functioning again, holidays are coming up so a lot of free time for me to do st00f. [12:26:17] Oh, I've read too fast. You have time. :) [12:35:42] aude, thiemo: could you refresh the CR+2 on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/254161/13 ? Zuul doesn't pick it up after the rebase, it seems. [12:35:48] would be nice if we could get this in. [12:38:24] DanielK_WMDE__: will look in aminute [12:38:38] agree, would be great to have these merged :) [12:40:07] * DanielK_WMDE__ just loves how utterly incomprehensible these conversations are to the uninitiated. "CR+2", "Zuul", "rebase", "merge". Wtf? [12:40:40] :P [12:57:48] aude: sorry for the copy&paste mess... [12:59:48] no idea why phpstorm is being evil and not pointing these out to you :P [13:03:45] aude: i found one reason: i had an old copy of vendor in my dir, so it was finding the classes twice. that seems to screw things up a bit. ofter i told phpstorm to ignore the stale code, it now shows them as unused. [13:07:43] ok [13:08:38] Multiple classes with the same name does upset it quite a lot [13:46:26] is hoo not at the office today? (or jan?) [13:49:52] self::PARAM_TYPE => array( 'url' => 'url' ), [13:50:00] That's not gonna work as expected, is it? [13:50:35] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/258967/4 [13:50:41] Reedy: doesn't seem right though i'd have to look up how is the right way to do it [13:50:52] array_flip in the usage [13:50:56] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/includes/api/ApiQueryWatchlist.php#L65-L87 [13:51:04] Based on how every other API module does "props" :) [13:51:21] hi there I have the following RDF query: http://tinyurl.com/h9xnr9g , but my second date column does not look like a date? any tips for formating? does order by then work? [13:54:56] Lydia_WMDE: pm? :) [13:55:24] addshore: hey! sure [13:56:06] addshore: would you like to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/258968/ ? (easy chocolate, want a +1 and to put this in swat) [13:56:17] or DanielK_WMDE__ or anyone [14:05:56] (year(?date) as ?year) that did the trick, but can anyone explain why? [14:15:33] thanks addshore :) [14:15:37] ;0 [14:17:20] heh https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Sources just shows Too many Wikidata entities accessed. allot now :/ [14:18:33] addshore: i think getLabel in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Module:Wikidata needs to be changed to not load an entity when not necessary [14:18:49] e.g. use mw.wikibase.abel when possible [14:19:19] but Help:Sources looks ok to me [14:25:28] I wish people would listen to your advice [14:25:42] Thiemo_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/258967/ [14:25:47] I told them what example to follow [14:25:50] * Reedy facepalms [14:28:06] * Reedy sighs [14:33:55] aude: really? thats odd [14:34:10] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jBc4ufwu/ [14:36:56] addshore: i am logged in, fwiw [14:37:31] so am I :/ [14:37:33] don't see an error, [14:37:46] language EN [14:38:12] heh, a purge fixed it for me [14:38:36] ah [16:31:46] Reedy: What is going on in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/258967/ ? Who is this? [16:32:03] GCI student [16:32:48] I showed them an example of how properties are dealt with in other API files [16:33:47] andre__afk: ^^ lol [16:34:52] Their earlier versions were more right [16:35:02] But then they weren't improving it based on how I said they should [16:35:16] it's like, I can tell you that won't work without even testing it [16:35:21] just do what I told you to do [17:38:01] Is installing from git for wikibase generally recommmended? [17:38:07] See #mediawiki [18:17:08] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q18067135&diff=283475449&oldid=283186316 [18:17:11] interesting [18:28:07] Lydia_WMDE: I made a thing [18:28:22] gj [18:28:34] ;) [18:28:53] right, I need another film example, Reedy any suggestions? [18:28:59] Terminator [18:29:06] which WP article? [18:29:30] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminator [18:29:54] addshore: show me the thing you made!!!!1111eleven :D [18:30:00] *blindly pastest the link into the tool to see what happens* [18:30:05] *pastes* [18:31:50] bah, currently it's a bit slow as it does not do async http requests when getting the references.. [18:32:49] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q162255&diff=prev&oldid=283479571 [18:34:31] uh uh :D [18:35:14] so, I only wrote the bit for film directors currently (as you can see) [18:35:34] but all I do is pass the code a wikipedia page! [18:35:38] brb food! [18:35:47] \o/ [19:30:43] * benestar waves [19:32:19] benestar: ! [19:32:23] I made a thing using the thing [19:32:28] ??? [19:32:52] https://github.com/addwiki/addwiki/blob/master/src/Commands/Wikimedia/WikidataFilmRefs.php [19:33:04] ignore the level of indentation in there... [19:33:53] basically you pass it a wikipedia URL and it gets external urls from said page, looks for structured data on said pages and if there is any adds a reference if appropriate [19:33:59] o_O that indentation xD [19:34:14] but also, I made it using the aww thing, and I love it :) [19:34:26] aww wm:wd:refs:films --sourcewiki enwiki --targetwiki wikidatawiki --user Addshore --title Bridge_of_Spies_$film$ [19:34:32] cool thing :) [19:35:31] right, I guess I should test it on a few more films [19:39:05] addshore: try it on Her [19:39:18] hey Lydia_WMDE :DD [19:39:24] hey benestar! :) [19:39:25] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_(film) ? [19:39:28] yeah [19:39:57] hello [19:39:59] Lydia_WMDE: some questions for the other languages stuff [19:40:06] hi HakanIST [19:40:08] how should the label be called? [19:40:08] benestar: shoot [19:40:22] Lydia_WMDE: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q788822&diff=prev&oldid=283499816 [19:40:25] "more"? [19:40:26] I used "more languages" and thiemo noticed that it not about more but about all languages [19:40:32] no it is not [19:40:36] it won't show all [19:40:38] but it also it isn't about all languages :S [19:40:40] only all set ones [19:40:41] see :P [19:40:47] more is fine imho [19:40:48] *all* set ones :P [19:41:12] we can't say all languages because that would make people assume this is all there is [19:41:17] which is especially bad on small items [19:41:25] actually it is all there is [19:41:29] addshore: \o/ [19:41:35] benestar: ? [19:41:42] *runs it againt dewiki to see if it adds anything else* [19:41:44] we should then also have an empty field to add terms for other languages [19:41:54] yes [19:42:10] and we should have that kind of mechanism for sitelinks as well [19:42:21] don't show all of them but just a selection? [19:42:31] who do you call wikidata data donors? [19:42:36] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q788822&diff=283500024&oldid=283499816, bah, it added imdb agin because there was a / at the end of one url and not and the end of the other.. [19:42:40] benestar: not for now [19:42:50] anysite with public info or is there special sources [19:42:58] HakanIST: broad question. why do you ask? that might make it easier to answer [19:43:27] I'm working on translations of wikidata I came into the term [19:43:44] ah [19:43:47] ok [19:44:14] so basically this is about institutions, companies and so on who want to approach us to give us some of their data [19:44:26] GLAMs for example too [19:44:56] ahh okay so imdb and such cannot be called donor, yet.. [19:44:57] so not any website but an organisation/institution/company.... [19:45:02] yeah [19:45:06] because they don't approach us [19:45:24] thanks for the clarification [19:45:28] no problem [19:45:35] thanks for translating [19:45:56] I enjoy it [19:46:01] :) [19:46:12] addshore: Much interest in the Offline extension? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/259045/ [19:46:50] addshore: btw you should show your thingy to amir :) [19:46:50] Reedy: I already replied in the other channel :P no not really :P [19:47:00] Amir1 ^^ [20:16:58] Oh yeah, we have a paper cuts page. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Paper_cuts&curid=16308045&action=history [20:20:57] *runs over a cat for a bit* [20:34:41] benestar: didnt you have a php lib for sparql? [20:39:11] asparagus ! [20:40:02] how to work out how to select items that have an unreferenced director statement.. [20:40:05] *now [21:20:34] Amir1: You around? [21:42:43] benestar: looks like I am using asparagus now :D [21:42:54] * Reedy hits addshore with a leek [21:43:41] Reedy: too fast! [21:49:53] addshore: \o/ [21:49:55] that's cool :) [22:35:58] wtf, wbsetreference doesnt allow multiple snaks? [22:36:01] seriously [22:36:30] *digs* [23:46:27] !panic [23:46:27] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7313450/entropy/gif/omgwtf.gif