[01:56:23] Is there a tool that will tell me how many claims I've added to Wikidata? [02:00:51] no idea harej sorry [02:54:09] I'm still learning RDF, there isn't really a place to ask this so I'll ask it here. [02:54:30] How would I represent something like book reviews by a user for a book in RDF? [09:27:38] harej: no :P [09:43:39] wouldn't be too hard to do with the api, would it, by looking at the changelog bit? [09:43:58] you could guess suing edit summaries, but that wouldnt be 100% [09:45:31] probably close enough though, if you're not using tools that create weird summaries [10:08:44] Lydia_WMDE: oddly here is a bigger one that still loads https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21481859 [10:10:24] addshore: ok.... [10:10:25] -.- [10:11:45] I did a quick check and there are only 3 pages near that size, Q21505108 Q21481859 Q21481867 [10:14:21] addshore: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:LongPages [10:14:22] ;-) [10:14:35] holy shit [10:18:58] yes [10:27:29] Lydia_WMDE: as for the spike on https://vital-signs.wmflabs.org/#projects=wikidatawiki/metrics=Pageviews I think that is a lie.... ;) [10:30:29] Lydia_WMDE: although in the last 30 days that was definatly the day with the most page views, *goes to see where the lital signs data comes from* [11:18:43] addshore: thanks [11:47:23] Lydia_WMDE: http://i.imgur.com/ZY8dKpA.gif [11:48:32] Lydia_WMDE: https://darkhorseanalytics.com/blog/data-looks-better-naked/ [11:51:42] LOL: http://darkhorseanalytics.com/blog/salvaging-the-pie/ [13:04:56] hah Thiemo_WMDE ! they are great! [13:58:29] Anyone around to merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/238771/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/253583/ ? :D [14:08:13] benestar: i was already reviewing wbsearch. has a +2 now. [14:08:17] descriptions would be nice [14:08:41] yes, but mobile fetches them already magically [14:11:39] benestar: hah, yes [14:12:07] * aude sees "Q76\n44th President of the United States" in mobile search [14:28:33] benestar: a while ago, you wrote some code for looking up the formmater url for a property, right? [14:28:40] where did that go? is it still on gerrit? [14:29:03] did I? :D [14:29:17] I added it to the property info gable [14:29:19] *table [14:29:27] right... [14:29:34] but you didn't add a dedicated interface? [14:29:44] so you can use a PropertyInfoStore [14:30:12] nope, we got stuck with the conclusion that we need a complete new mechanism for that formatting [14:30:21] cause it is per property id and not per datatype [14:30:34] yea, that is fixed no0w [14:30:47] so i'm trying to figure out what other bits are missing [14:31:35] uhm, how did you fix it? [14:32:27] by allowing SnakFormatters to be registered via callbacks [14:32:56] and only if tehre is none registered, use a generic SnakFormatter that delegates to a ValueFormatter [14:33:22] benestar: actually, the last bit isn't merged yet. see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/253683/ [14:33:47] my job for this sprint is to identify which bits are missing, and write the parts that are quick & easy [14:47:55] does someone want to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/254135/ ? (to make filtering of wikibase edits in client watchlist work with the new checkboxes) [14:48:58] * aude not amused that core change caused this to break :/ [14:55:34] aude: run Wikibase tests on every core change? [14:58:44] benestar: that's the idea [15:00:39] benestar: that is blocked on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117886 [15:10:46] I'm still learning RDF, there isn't really a place to ask this so I'll ask it here. [15:10:48] How would I represent something like book reviews by a user for a book in RDF? [15:22:24] sec^nd: StackOverflow is probably a better place for that question. There's also the #rdfig channel, but it's empty... [15:23:22] sec^nd: but this looks like a godo place: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/rdf [15:24:26] (short answer: create a unique id for the review, treat it as a "subject" in RDF. define relationships (properties) of a review (which book, who did the review, when, what score(s) were assigned, etc). Assign values to these properties using rdf triples. [15:24:58] the actual rdf bit is usually simple. picking or creating good vocabularies for the different kinds of things you need is the tricky bit [15:28:59] Anyone here from the WIkimedia DE-chapter willing to donate a German-Wikimedia/Wikipedia-shirt I can wear while attending 32c3 in Hamburg in December. I've only got one WIkidata and a few Wikipedia-trelated with Swedish text. [15:32:44] *is installing docker finally* [15:36:05] addshore: did you obtain access to the kubernetes cluster? [15:36:14] nope =o [15:58:59] * harej just did a three-way merger on Wikidata... unfortunately creating a double redirect in the process [15:59:48] I've seen a bot fixing ones I've made [16:00:10] Fair enough [16:00:34] * harej sometimes gets anxious about how many redundant entries there are on Wikidata... but then gets excited by mergers... data that was separate before is now together, making information better linked together! [16:00:51] yeah :) [16:18:12] DanielK_WMDE_: hi! can we get some resolution on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/246130/ ? We've got response from Markus some time ago [16:21:02] SMalyshev: ooohh, there is some interesting data there :P [16:21:38] addshore: yes, there should be some interesting things, I just never got to organizing them [16:21:38] the error count is in there ;) [16:22:38] addshore: yep [16:26:57] * harej is 12 items away from creating his 1,000th item on his work account! [16:30:01] SMalyshev: yeh, some of the numbers look a bit odd, https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-query-service-draft , I might dive into them some more tommorrow [16:30:47] addshore: yeah, also some of those seems to be cumulative (like error counts) [16:31:15] just found and added queries per second [16:31:19] and some recent data seem to be missing [16:31:33] for wdqs1002 in particular [16:31:35] yeh, only for wdqs1001 though [16:31:44] yes 2! bah, silly colors [16:33:00] also wsq1001 data have timestamp of 15 nov all of them past 15 nov [16:33:05] something weird is going on there [16:45:41] is there an easy way to copy and paste between wikidata items? it turns out that the symptoms and first aid measures for mustard gas exposure are generally the same even if it's a different variety [17:42:43] hoo: jzerebecki Thiemo_WMDE1 i would like to backport https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/254135/ if this fix looks ok [17:43:01] otherwise checking the box to show wikibase edits on the watchlist won't do anything :/ [17:43:08] thanks to core change [17:43:17] or DanielK_WMDE_ ^ [17:48:23] aude: i looked at it earlier, but i don't quite understand what's going on [17:48:31] can we talk about it tomorrow? [17:53:00] DanielK_WMDE_: if we're ok with waiting until monday to backport [17:53:19] if you see the core change, then i think you understand [17:54:21] DanielK_WMDE_: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/149268/ the core change [17:55:34] aude, from my side go ahead. DanielK_WMDE_ do you want to defer for some reason? [17:55:42] jzerebecki: thanks [18:00:03] jzerebecki: no blocker, it just wasn't obvious what was going on [18:00:10] if you are fine with the patch, go ahead [18:02:35] as matmarex says, this could all probably be handled better in core [18:03:11] but this is how it works now and we needed to adjust our code [20:05:41] Did some limits get lowered? Just noticed https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Paintings_without_painter#National_Portrait_Gallery is now throwing errors :-( [20:12:18] multichill: i don't think so [20:13:49] multichill: in preview the error doesn't happen :-O [20:14:26] i don't see erros [20:14:29] errors* [20:14:40] but could be looking at the wrong thing or something [20:15:12] jzerebecki: Hmm, weird, I saved the page and now it's all good [20:16:04] could be someone was changing a template or lua module [20:16:21] otherwise, no idea... [20:16:33] Same on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Paintings_creator_no_authority_control . I was thinking the same [20:17:12] "This is a list of paintings (Too many Wikidata entities accessed. (Q3305213))" [20:17:18] if a template is made, for example to load the whole entity to get just a label [20:17:30] when one of the convenience methods can do that w/o loading the entity [20:17:55] but its the first template on the page [20:17:57] then it might get marked as expensive if used a lot [20:18:09] and hit a limit [20:18:11] The wikitext starts with: "This is a list of paintings ({{Q|3305213}})" [20:18:12] 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Q [20:18:28] the {{Q|}} templates shouldn't need to load an entity [20:18:29] 10[2] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Q [20:19:49] I took a look at the recent changes for templates and modules and nothing stood out [20:20:10] Hmm, probably just a glitch. I'll file a bug if it happens again [20:23:47] ok [20:46:40] FYI, http://wdq.wmflabs.org/stats broke down [20:46:49] And no idea how to fix it [21:30:35] is wdq down ? [21:47:46] no [21:53:59] Ash_Crow: not working for me either. [21:54:02] aaargh since when https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2047 is restricted to works? [21:54:25] which property should I use for the time of a race? [21:55:27] Harmonia_Amanda: is it really "restricted"? as i read it it just lists some examples what i could be [21:55:53] mutante: the description was changed in French from "durée" to "durée de l'œuvre" [21:56:17] mutante: and there is a constraint on the talk page [21:56:18] if the race is on TV, does it become a "recorded work"?:) [21:56:27] so yes, pretty sure it's now restricted [21:56:46] hrmm.. i'd bring it up on that talk page [21:57:00] it seems counter-intuitive to create another property [21:57:09] the restriction seems arbitrary [21:57:56] mutante: I agree [21:58:36] but it's really strange to have "work duration" property on times for a race >< [21:59:14] racing is hard work. see how much they are sweating :) [22:01:33] ^^ [22:02:01] Harmonia_Amanda, mutante: there is a discussion since the beginining of the month to generalize this property ;) [22:02:47] well I hope because I already used it on several items, multiple times and it's long [22:03:03] (when will quickstatements manage numbers with units?) [22:03:28] Ash_Crow: ah :) gotcha [22:03:36] i would just be bold ... [22:03:38] and use this one :) [22:03:42] Harmonia_Amanda: [22:08:50] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19404032 [22:09:45] do you think I can create an item for the sportmanship award of the Junior Iditarod? [22:27:37] * Harmonia_Amanda is still perturbed by the "durée de l'œuvre" in qualifiers [22:40:09] Can the old "Wikidata" branch in mediawiki-core be removed? It seems it was merged into master and is done. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Krinkle/Old_branches [23:03:58] Krinkle: Kill iwtransclusion [23:04:12] I was gonna ask :) [23:04:16] (you) [23:04:17] cool [23:04:27] I can't remember what/why [23:04:33] But it's obviously unused :P [23:05:26] doen [23:05:28] done [23:10:20] * Reedy runs git remote prune [23:36:57] what is the API url for Wikidata page views? [23:39:59] addshore: which API did you use to delete that grafana dashboard? [23:51:07] harej: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-page-views-per-domain ? [23:52:03] and can i get per-page views?