[02:45:50] hello [02:46:29] I'm looking for help to get unblocked. [02:48:53] AlaskaDave: you'll need to put {{unblock|1=}} on your talk page. [02:48:54] 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:unblock [02:50:11] You guys make this so complicated. The person who blocked me cannot be reached by someone who is blocked - it's like being trapped! [02:50:56] The stated reason, AFAIK, for blocking me is because I have too many accounts! [02:52:48] and maybe it's just the new unified account stuff that's responsible - who knows - every time Ilog in I have to click on Login Unification at which time I get another weird user ID [02:53:02] maybe you don't want my help [02:55:12] Here is a message I received when I clicked on a link on the Template "Editing from $7 has been blocked (disabled) by $1 for the following reason(s): $2 This block (ID #$5) has been set to expire: $6." [02:55:18] are you serious? [03:10:19] bye [08:18:33] * nikki sighs at flow [08:18:39] I wish I could disable it :/ [08:19:55] it's made it so much harder for me to watch pages, since most of the changes don't show up on my watchlist any more, and even when they do they're already marked as seen [08:22:43] and I can't navigate between topics very well because there's no link back to the overview (the only thing I've found is copying the page name into the search bar and searching for it) and I can't search in the page any more since it doesn't load the topics until I scroll down enough... [08:27:09] and the table of contents got replaced by a dropdown where I can see far less at a time, so that's harder to use too [08:29:10] A search function would be great. [08:29:24] Or "hide closed topics" [08:29:55] yeah, both of those would be good [08:30:17] Navigating Magnus his talk page is hard now [08:31:42] yep [08:33:12] it seems like it only shows on my watchlist when someone creates a new topic, I don't seem to see any of the replies [08:33:48] which is annoying because I added the whole page to my watchlist because I wanted to see what everyone says, and it's usually the replies which are more interesting than the new topics [08:34:55] I get notifications for every topic. [08:35:35] Ehm, new topic. [08:35:45] If you want to see replies, you should watch the topic. [08:36:27] but then I have to watch every single topic, I added the whole page to my watchlist because I want to watch everything on there, and that used to work fine :/ [08:37:56] (i.e. it worked fine because it was one page and any edit would bump it to the top of my watchlist again) [08:39:34] I do like the idea of topics showing up separately in my watchlist, but I don't think it's very efficient to have to watch every single new topic individually if I just want to watch them all. I'd rather have it automatically watch them all and if it's something I'm really not interested in following any more, I can unwatch it [08:44:15] it's also really easy to accidentally not watch a topic, I can easily see myself opening one, getting distracted by what's written there and then closing the tab when I'm done, completely forgetting that I opened it with the intention of watching it... and I won't know I'm not watching it because I won't know if there are any replies [08:49:02] I think self-created topics are added automatically to your watchlist. [09:14:36] This is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104323 : nikki> it seems like it only shows on my watchlist when someone creates a new topic, I don't seem to see any of the replies [09:15:38] thanks [09:16:15] sjoerddebruin: by "opening" I mean if I see someone else create a topic and I open it in a new tab to read it [13:42:10] Lydia_WMDE: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/cat-pub-popular-place-15-felines-join-pint/story-28149367-detail/story.html#1 [13:45:01] there is no internetz here [13:45:23] addshore: so she might not see [13:45:35] but \o/ [13:45:35] :/ silly office [13:45:43] I might have to try and go there before I fly back! [13:45:47] I'll take pics if I do ;) [13:48:15] please do :) [13:49:08] * aude rage about the new checkboxes on Special:Watchlist [13:49:55] that don't work correctly with the[D[D[D[D[D[D wikidata toggle/checkbox [13:50:15] ah [13:50:34] :O [13:51:14] addshore: OMG!!!1111eleven [13:51:24] :D [14:49:22] is there a way to search for items with deprecated statements? [14:51:54] * nikki is wondering how many of them are just historical values or whatever and how many are actually deprecated for being erroneous [14:52:03] but I don't even know how many deprecated statements we even have [15:19:33] nikki: you could probably write a sparql query! [15:19:58] unfortunately nobody answered my question so I don't know how to :P [15:38:40] nikki: 15,059 statements [15:38:58] According to https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php [17:00:57] if all an item has is two sitelinks, and one sitelink belongs on a different item and the other belongs on another different item, what do I do with the current item? move the sitelinks to the right items and delete it for being a duplicate of multiple things? redirect it to one of the duplicates at random? [17:04:34] nikki: redirect sounds better than delete [18:31:17] nikki: does this help with your deprecated statements question?: https://query.wikidata.org/#PREFIX%20wd%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fentity%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20wdt%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2Fdirect%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20wikibase%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwikiba.se%2Fontology%23%3E%0APREFIX%20p%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20v%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2Fstatement%2F%3E%0APREFIX% [18:32:34] Hmm I have the bot flag but I still need to wait ~9 seconds after each edit. What am I doing wrong? [18:43:33] tobias47n9e__: can you link an example edit? [18:48:43] jzerebecki, https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q12235620&diff=prev&oldid=270895741 [19:01:02] tobias47n9e__: they show up as bot edits. there are multiple edits within the same seconds. how does needing to wait look like? [19:04:54] jzerebecki: hm, that query looks cut off [19:05:13] also I think I never said thanks for the response to the question about years set to 0 a few days ago, so thanks for that :D [19:05:34] SELECT ?q ?p ?s WHERE { ?q ?p ?s . ?s wikibase:rank wikibase:DeprecatedRank . [19:05:35] } LIMIT 10 [19:06:14] yw [19:07:00] and yes, that looks useful, thanks :) [19:18:18] jzerebecki, The terminal running pywikibot shows me after each edit: Sleeping for 9.4 seconds, 2015-11-12 19:32:14 [19:21:46] tobias47n9e__: does pywikibot cache the session cookie? If so, you have to kill the session and log in again, so the new group (bot) applies [19:22:11] tobias47n9e__: also, the api tells the bot to wait if the database slaves are lagged [19:22:34] tobias47n9e__: that is the default, see -putthrottle on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/Basic_use [19:23:33] DanielK_WMDE, I will try deleting the cookie. [19:23:58] tobias47n9e__: perhaps first try decreasing the default throttle [19:26:46] jzerebecki, When I use pushthrottle I can get as low as ~5 seconds. [19:31:03] tobias47n9e__: deleting the cookie didn't change that? [19:59:20] jzerebecki, Tried logging in an out and fiddling with putthrottle. Nothing helping at the moment. Code is here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Checkallthestrings_bot/Task_2 [20:14:46] tobias47n9e__: we have 0 slave lag and 0 dispatch lag currently. so no quick idea. perhaps ask in #pywikibot ? [20:16:49] jzerebecki, Good idea. Will do. Thanks! [20:22:30] tobias47n9e__: if you get an answer I'd love to know [20:29:31] Is it getting throttled by varnish? [20:31:29] Got some help. The setting is in pywikibot/config2.py (578) put_throttle = 1 [20:32:12] nikki, jzerebecki, Reedy ^ [20:32:36] Even setting 0 works. [20:36:49] thanks [21:45:42] This is the most creative variant of the Wikidata logo in my opinion: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GeneWikidata-logo-en.png