[07:45:13] Lydia_WMDE, aude: wondering if there still a task active that is refreshing items to appear in Special:Nearby... [09:31:46] sjoerddebruin: afaik all is updated [09:32:14] Ah, okay. Sorting changes after every small thing then. [12:28:00] hi [12:28:08] what is the proper WD birthday? [12:28:25] I see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Third_Birthday mentioning 29th but enwiki article says about 30th [12:29:06] dewiki's as well [12:29:32] Lydia_WMDE: you will know it for sure I guess [12:31:54] Base: Wikipedia is never wrong. Why are you questioning it!? [12:32:34] Reedy: :D thought that Wikidata might be neverer wrong :) [12:32:55] Doesn't Wikidata have a page about itself to tell you this? [12:32:57] Much meta etc [12:33:33] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2013 [12:33:38] Says 29th too [12:33:41] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Introduction looks like not having the data [12:42:36] Base: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q16&oldid=19 :) [12:43:16] aude oh cool to be able to track it from own contribs xD [12:43:17] though the wiki was created on the 26th, but remember we had some issues with creating items initially [12:43:20] yeah [12:44:38] my first non-imported is https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q98&diff=prev&oldid=275198 *envies* [12:44:50] oooh :) [12:44:53] Base: yeah we consider the 29th the birthday [12:45:11] that is when we celebrate each year [12:45:19] shall the WP articles be updated then? [12:45:24] imho yes [12:45:30] some source is needed though [12:45:42] was there any blog post or stuff mentioning the date? [12:45:48] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?oldid=16 [12:45:50] hmmm let me see [12:45:51] the first item [12:46:26] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:News [12:46:30] at the bottom [12:46:35] first item created [12:46:46] i think that is the closest we have [12:46:55] plus all the birthday pages for the past 3 birthdays [12:46:59] they should all mention the 29th [12:47:15] oh wow Q1 was imported. didn't know that [12:48:04] ah but on the same news page the launch date is written as 30th [13:58:10] "One of the big changes was the introduction of a much awaited datatype, number with units!" is there an example on this datatype? [14:03:26] found https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P2257 [15:45:54] addshore: y u use java when there is clojure and scala? [15:46:03] cause [15:46:38] JeroenDeDauw: i made it work anyway ;) https://github.com/wmde/wikidata-analysis/blob/master/java/analyzer/src/test/java/org/wikidata/analyzer/Processor/BadDateProcessorTest.java [15:46:39] if you have to use the jvm, might as well use java [15:49:22] I just got thrown off by the face you cant use EasyMock.expect for methods that have a void return.... [15:51:09] addshore: did you write this entire thing? [15:51:22] which entire thing? [15:51:54] wikidata-analysis [15:52:04] (Not implying its big - idk) [15:52:18] yes basically, some of the python is based on stuff deny wrote, and the web stuff is too [15:52:22] all the java is new [15:52:33] so why the Python and why the Java? [15:53:06] java for using wikidata toolkit to scan the dumps (saved writing a bunch or boring code), python because that script already existed and I only slightly modified it [15:54:33] ah, the pom file is in java/analyzer... was looking for it in the root [15:54:56] addshore: well, you could still have used Clojure then :D [15:55:07] JeroenDeDauw: feel free to rewrite it ;) haha [15:55:49] Feel free to take a look at this branch / file too https://github.com/wmde/wikidata-analysis/blob/newCounter/java/analyzer/src/main/java/org/wikidata/analyzer/Processor/CounterProcessor.java [15:56:05] addshore: actually I'm looking for something to do in that language. Any features that should be added to this thing? [15:57:23] Well, this CounterProcessor thing was going to be our version of the wikidata-todo/stats thing http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php [15:57:40] Ie. on a dump scan pull out all of the numbers we want. [15:57:55] So why should I look at CounterProcessor? Don't see anything too interesting at first glance [15:58:40] Well, it is probably not done yet, I dont think it covers all of the things wikidata-todo stats does, for example counting references to Wikipedias etc. [15:59:12] And also counting the different reference types, I mean that concept seems a bit odd, as a ref is just a collection of snaks.. there is not a main one that a type would be taken from... [15:59:35] https://github.com/wmde/wikidata-analysis/blob/master/java/analyzer/src/main/java/org/wikidata/analyzer/Processor/MapProcessor.java should be poked to avoid using a huge ammount of memory making the JSON [16:00:33] Could also move the generation of the maps to the java and thus kill the python stuff! [19:33:40] addshore: ok, so we'll first rewrite the python into java, then into clojure, and then php7? [20:50:28] hoo: naaaaaaaaaaw http://pastebin.com/9XrJcNSW [20:54:19] JeroenDeDauw: Well, we could (very) slightly improve it and loose some flexibility [21:15:52] mergeeeeeeeeee https://github.com/wmde/Wikiba.se/pulls [22:25:48] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimania_2016 <-- [23:36:53] Hi! Can someone point me to the Wikidata Help page that tells me something about the "+/- 1" that appears when I give something a numeric value? [23:49:49] or, rephrasing my question: How do you say "exactly 1" in Wikidata-ish? [23:52:45] You set the uncertainty interval to plus or minus 0 [23:53:02] harej: Ok. How do I do that? [23:53:35] ah, is it "+/- 0"? [23:53:44] I think I just found out by trial and error ;-) [23:54:45] harej: Thank you! [23:57:07] It's pretty silly. People are working out a way to distinguish between things like measurements (which have inherent uncertainty) and precise numbers like census counts. [23:58:34] harej: i just wanted to say that a trio is a musical ensemble consisting of exactly three players ;-) [23:58:49] Plus or minus zero would indeed be correct [23:59:39] cool, thanks