[00:06:58] Josve05afk: Indeed... [00:08:33] SO, should I create a Wikidata object for this or... what are the guidelines? https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3A%27A_Sunset_in_Waioming_-sic-%27_by_Jules_Tavernier%2C_1889.jpg&type=revision&diff=177692674&oldid=163570091 [00:10:10] Probably, check out https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings [00:10:17] danke [00:10:39] “A painting is considered notable if one of these options is true: [00:10:40] The painting is in a notable collection of a museum, library, archive (i.e. a painting in the Metropolitan Museum of Art) [00:10:41] The painting is made by a notable artist (i.e. Van Gogh painting in a private collection)" [00:10:55] He’s obviously ‘notable’ [00:13:31] would be nice if a tool existed which could jsut copy over the info from the {{Artwork}} to a new item... [00:13:32] 10[2] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Artwork [00:14:12] Yeah. [00:14:41] I’m actually futzing with linking Institution templates to Wikidata atm, would be nice if there was something to rewrite them based on wikidata easily. [00:15:31] Hunting through piles of unlabled “Chiesa di Santa Maria Assunta” searching for the one in a particular town, lol. [00:18:51] I searched "template:auto description" Did you mean: template:aude descriptions [00:19:27] Hm? [00:21:32] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21291441 yay [00:21:58] I think you broke the height and width. :P [00:22:44] (you should also add a description) [00:23:00] i.e. ‘painting by Jules Tavernier’ [00:23:05] Revent: broke? [00:23:16] oh :P [00:23:21] :P [00:27:08] Gawd, at least 100 churches with the same name, sigh [00:27:09] 'The Good Wife' in 30 min, so in 1 hour and 15 min in Sweden :D [00:31:15] https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=Q21291441&lang=en /me likes Reasonator [00:32:02] Yeah, it’s nice. [01:19:55] When adding the countries to the Wikidata entry on the Guyana Shield, when I entered France (as French Guyana is part of France), it said "Country in Europe". Can we not find a better description? [01:28:26] There should be some distinction between the ‘political entity’ and the ‘territorial entity' [01:31:30] (hrms) The description on Q142 is ‘country mainly in Western Europe’ [09:29:53] aude: https://github.com/filbertkm/WikidataStats/blob/20e0f8e175707449f94450e1fde77c2f4d2ee42e/src/Console/Commands/StatsCommand.php#L29 is basically all that is needed for usage tracking tracking? just ran on all wiki dbs? [10:13:36] addshore: yes [10:52:57] aude: https://graphite.wikimedia.org/render/?width=586&height=308&&lineMode=connected&from=-1h&target=test.wd.eu.*.S [10:55:09] cant really do minuite by minuite data for 635 wikis though, hah! [11:08:09] aude: Lydia_WMDE how long and at what resolution / how often do we want to track the usage stuff? [11:11:42] addshore: once a day? [11:12:11] it would be interesting to see that suddenly wikidata is used in an important template somewhere (e.g. authority control) [11:13:39] also, im curious aude, how long does that query you have take to run on the labs replica? [11:14:02] very quick [11:14:07] except maybe on zhwiki [11:14:32] because of language fallbacks, i think zhwiki has especially a lot of usage :/ [11:14:33] the first run too just over a minuite for me, then from there around 4 seconds every time after! [11:14:48] 4 secs sounds ok [11:15:48] Lydia_WMDE: https://graphite.wikimedia.org/render/?width=586&height=308&&lineMode=connected&from=-1h&target=test.wd.eu.*.O* :) [11:15:50] and how long do you think we would want to retain this data for? a year would probably do? :P or do we want longer data? :P [11:16:01] probably longer, but less resolution [11:16:25] Yeh, I really think graphite is the easiest way to store this, so revisiting https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/247866/ [11:16:32] * aude agrees [11:16:46] that's what graphite is for and then different visualization tools can hook into it [11:16:51] yup [11:17:14] just got to try and get the right resolution now, idelaly I can come up with 1 which covers everything we are gathering [11:18:38] addshore: yeah daily sounds good [11:19:13] and tbh, proabbly keeping these things for 25 years would be fine? rather than 100? ;) [11:19:32] lol [11:19:34] yeah [11:19:37] :P [11:19:48] 100 makes me feel.... oddd... as I will probably not be alive then.... [11:19:58] although amazing we had back to the future day already :) [11:20:05] who would've thought :P [11:20:26] Lydia_WMDE: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76145 [11:21:12] Lydia_WMDE: the ticket as stated seems to be a wontfix, but we should make sure that whatever method of counting we use, it is used consistently [11:45:20] hashar: jzerebecki around? :) [11:45:47] addshore: yup [11:46:23] oh wait, actually I didnt see your reply at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116007#1757055 yet.... *goes to read* [11:48:28] hashar: I don't want tox in there ;P it's primarily php and shell! ;) [11:49:32] addshore: did you have a question? [11:50:09] jzerebecki: well, I was going to see if either of you wanted to do https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116007 for me to avoid me catching up with the CI things again ;) [11:50:33] aude: I like your nearby script. But, it doesn't remember the page that I've used for it (when you use the back button after visiting a item) [11:50:55] addshore: so what can we run on that repo besides phplint? [11:51:09] well, nothing, just phpline [11:51:17] phplint... [11:51:33] also does anyone know what the restricted blocking task is on that task...? [11:52:08] bad addshore not writing any tests [11:52:21] addshore: you created that with "Addshore changed Security from None to Access Request." [11:53:30] sjoerddebruin: i noticed that :/ [11:53:36] interesting... [11:54:01] aude: Also wondering if we could use mw-ui icon... [11:54:12] which icon? [11:54:57] The nearby one? [11:55:08] i don't care what icon to use [11:55:19] hehe [11:55:20] but don't understand what you want to use instead [11:55:46] to me, "globe" indicates it might bring up a map or something which is not the case (yet) [11:56:01] so i want something else but couldn't find anything better [11:56:01] The one in the mobile navigation? Consistency.. [11:56:05] oh [11:57:15] https://www.wikidata.org/static/1.27.0-wmf.3/extensions/MobileFrontend/resources/skins.minerva.icons.images.legacy/refresh.png?18db5 ? [11:58:05] I thought there was also one without a arrow. [11:58:13] there might be [11:58:16] the one in the menu [11:58:20] Yep. [11:58:40] i just don't want people to get confused that it takes them to Special:Nearby for their own location vs. page location [11:59:23] How do we indicate "around this item" with a icon... [11:59:31] i have no idea [12:05:03] Hm. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/Nearby_Pages [12:14:44] many thanks jzerebecki [12:31:42] Lydia_WMDE: heh I was literally just about to ask you'd asked jonas about that mediawiki sitelink label thing or if I should just add it to phabricator but apparently I was an hour too slow :P thanks though :D didn't want it to get archived and forgotten about [13:13:45] nikki: :D [13:26:51] Damn, almost a nearby overview with all images. One missing. :( [13:31:37] sjoerddebruin: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117412 [13:31:50] it's not a wikidata specific issue or specific to my script [13:31:57] but should definitely be fixed [13:32:02] :) [13:32:27] * aude guess it's easy fix for someone who knows what they are doing [13:33:57] The image cropping for things like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:100719_Parkweg_Grunobuurt_Groningen_NL.jpg is also not perfect [13:37:49] :/ [13:38:28] and it doesn't crop very well for https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Six_weeks_old_cat_(aka).jpg :( [14:42:55] aude: interesting dips in the last 2 hours :) https://gyazo.com/ae512af1878215d4ccddfa4f19ed88e9 [14:46:33] oooo [14:59:10] aude: oooooo indeed https://gyazo.com/1f639270bc45a7f67fca19fdbc8bae49 [15:05:14] because we had 5 million articles yesterday and a surge of new articles [15:05:21] and now bots are adding items for them to wikidata :) [17:07:08] aude: You did not posted your suggestion here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250163 [17:59:53] Morning all -- is there a way to represent a fractional quantity on wikidata? [18:00:12] rather than decimal, which makes it very hard to represent "1/3" [18:00:21] hawke: no, all quantities are represented as decimal strings internally. [18:00:48] hawke: what's the use case? [18:10:36] DanielK_WMDE_: Record rotation speed is 33 and one third RPM. [18:10:46] (or at least a common record rotation speed) [18:12:02] (At the moment I'm just playing around in test so not strictly needed for anything at the moment, but it seems like it would be useful to be able to represent numbers like that) [18:18:42] * hoo waves [18:18:52] Lydia_WMDE: aude: Anything else that wants to be backported? [18:18:58] (besides the two mobile fixes) [18:19:40] hoo: not that i know [18:19:59] also we are making a branch today.... suppose i can do now [18:20:19] yeah, saw that [18:20:44] hoo: are you around on thursday when we deploy to wikipedia [18:20:49] ? [18:21:34] I'm going to be at a friends home, but can surely idle [18:21:56] aude: Just please don’t break the entire site. :P [18:22:04] :/ [18:22:09] Revent: heh [18:22:20] aude: All other week days work for me, this week :/ [18:22:36] i am around tomorrow and wednesday but not thursday at deploy time [18:23:32] but normally everything is ok :) and maybe jan is around also [18:23:55] Added it to my calendar :) [18:23:59] ok [18:27:22] hoo: also are you around the week of december 15 ? [18:27:41] * aude added deployments until end of year [18:28:36] I don't plan to do any more traveling before Christmas ( :( ), so most probably [18:29:37] ok [19:01:23] aude: interesting drop.... https://gyazo.com/ddf3383368372dd41d5ee7f2edff49bc [19:01:44] delete all teh things! [19:01:52] :P [19:02:29] aude: what is the X usage for? [19:02:55] i think it's "all/any" [19:03:43] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/blob/master/client/includes/Usage/EntityUsage.php#L43-L47 [19:06:48] epic! [19:21:21] is Special:ConstraintReport accessible from the api? [19:22:20] no, not yet [19:24:33] thanks [19:27:57] aude: Your nearby script should check if coordinates is set to none (as value) [19:32:37] sjoerddebruin: could do [19:32:53] right now, the script is pretty dumb and only looks if the item has P625 [19:33:05] Because it shows up on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2086359 now, a school with two locations so there is no coordinate for the school itself. [19:33:52] i see [19:37:22] JeroenDeDauw: i call on thee to prevent smelly code: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/249421/2/client/includes/store/sql/DirectSqlStore.php [20:00:44] Amir1: Hi, you in? [20:01:42] See https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Multichill#SOAP_Monitor , didn't you have a bot to grab creator and collection from artwork templates on Commons? [20:01:55] Hey multichill [20:04:34] Lydia_WMDE: aude: Done with backports, mobile is fine again [20:04:54] hoo: yay [20:05:00] Hey sjoerddebruin, does mix'n'match still work for you? [20:14:15] multichill: it worked today at school. [20:14:35] but it seems down now [20:14:50] Twittering Magnus is the fastest way is my experience. [20:15:52] if it is just down then the labs channel is probably faster [20:15:59] imagines people tweeting pieces of code and getting +1's back. twitter code review? [20:16:05] hoo: \o/ [20:16:57] mutante: -2 [20:17:37] JohnFLewis: yes, please -2 me, i don't like it either :p [20:17:45] i just imagined it nevertheless :p [20:17:46] mutante: isn't that how you send in a patch to https://twitter.com/TweetNaCl [20:18:06] Good alternative to gerrit ;-) [20:18:09] haha, wtf [20:18:32] Also no more gigantic patch sets [20:19:20] 140 limit will teach people to write more efficient code ;) [20:20:17] jzerebec1i: It's not down, it doesn't show the list of databases. [20:20:26] JohnFLewis: puppetlintpep8criticalomfs-over-80-chars [20:20:47] sjoerddebruin: it used widar which is down [20:21:05] Ah. [20:21:08] asked for a fix in the -labs channel [20:50:20] *tries to remember how to test stuff in java with maven and junit*....... [21:14:14] is it possible to find dates where the year is set to zero in sparql? [21:17:06] nikki: should be possible with year(?date) = 0 [21:18:29] hm, nope, that returns just two things where the year is -1 :/ [21:21:30] http://tiny.cc/7h6j5x is the query I have, and I'm trying to find things like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6767140 [21:23:57] JeroenDeDauw: why is java easymock stupid [23:54:49] hm... how do you tag a show that only aired on the internet (pre-youtube) [23:57:38] Q526877 is it