[05:58:04] <spagewmf>	 hey, how would I find how many items in Wikidata have claims involving a particular property?
[06:27:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 spagewmf: through what links here for example
[06:28:12] <spagewmf>	 Lydia_WMDE: of course, I'll try it
[06:31:37] <spagewmf>	 Lydia_WMDE: that'll tell you if a property is in use on fewer than 500 items. My use case is an external app deciding what properties it can use.
[06:31:59] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ah
[06:32:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 then probably sparql
[06:50:25] <spagewmf>	 Guten Morgen, WMDE! To get e.g. genre (P136) of a book from the API, it seems there's no shortcut to grinding through claim.mainsnak.datavalue.value['numeric-id'] then asking for its label. Is this JSON structure explained anywhere?
[09:21:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 Lydia_WMDE: Why is there a 400 character limit? :( https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonso_de_Borbón_y_Borbón
[10:46:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: looking :)
[10:46:21] <sjoerddebruin>	 Wanted to add the full name. :)
[10:46:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: uiuiuiuiui
[10:46:49] <Lydia_WMDE>	 denny back then looked for the longest article title and added some slack
[10:47:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 the main idea being that if we make it too long people will start writing essays :D
[10:47:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 Ah, okay...
[11:57:11] <aude>	 Jonas_WMDE: 
[11:57:12] <aude>	 $wgMFQueryPropModules[] = 'pageterms';                                                              
[11:57:16] <aude>	 $wgMFSearchAPIParams['wbptterms'] = array( 'label' );
[11:57:21] <Jonas_WMDE>	 thx
[11:57:22] <aude>	 per https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/246282/8/includes/MobileFrontend.hooks.php
[11:59:19] <Jonas_WMDE>	 @aude still not working ;(
[12:02:44] <aude>	 do you have mobile enabled before wikibase?
[12:03:27] <aude>	 i commented in the patch about this, that order of loading extensions becomes important (and i'm not so happy about that)
[12:05:39] <addshore>	 :/ that is sad
[12:07:21] <Jonas_WMDE>	 @aude can it be that it doesn't support multiple languages also?
[12:07:44] <Jonas_WMDE>	 uselang=de just chanages the page not the items
[12:08:34] <aude>	 what page?
[12:09:01] <Jonas_WMDE>	 Special:Nearby?uselang=de&useformat=mobile
[12:09:02] <Jonas_WMDE>	 and
[12:09:06] <Jonas_WMDE>	 Special:Nearby?uselang=de
[12:09:12] <aude>	 ok
[12:10:43] <Jonas_WMDE>	 I can see no language parm in the request
[12:12:46] <aude>	 setlang works
[12:13:10] <aude>	 afaik, the api module uses the context language
[12:13:23] <aude>	 mobile could pass along uselang
[13:37:11] <jzerebecki>	 Jonas_WMDE: http://wdq.wmflabs.org/
[14:01:59] <Jonas_WMDE>	 @Lydia_WMDE https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/246282
[14:28:55] <multichill>	 hola
[14:29:03] <sjoerddebruin>	 hi multichill 
[14:31:17] <multichill>	 Hi sjoerddebruin, holiday this week?
[14:31:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yup, so enough time to work on backlogs.
[14:33:20] <multichill>	 Me too, now sitting on my balcony in Lanzarote :-)
[14:34:18] <sjoerddebruin>	 27 degrees celsius, not bad.
[14:34:43] <multichill>	 Yeah, it's awesome. Bit cloudy and rainy in the morning, but that was good weather to go for a walk
[14:35:08] <nikki>	 cloudy and rainy, that sounds familiar
[14:36:02] <nikki>	 except here it's all day long :P
[14:37:39] <multichill>	 Yes, that's the climate we were trying to get away from ;-)
[14:37:52] <nikki>	 hehe yeah
[14:38:25] <multichill>	 Big group (18) with lot's of kids so it's nice to have a bit of quiet time
[14:39:09] <nikki>	 wow, that's a lot of people
[14:40:14] <multichill>	 Haha, my three cousins just came running into my room. They're comparing all the rooms :-)
[14:42:18] <multichill>	 nikki: You're based out of Germany, aren't you? Are you also going to the Wikidata party next week?
[14:42:47] <nikki>	 yes I am, but no I'm not :/
[14:42:50] <sjoerddebruin>	 :(
[14:43:16] <addshore>	 hashar: :O which bits break those extensions?
[14:43:31] <hashar>	 addshore: some tests of those extensions are falling :/
[14:43:41] <hashar>	 noticed that on the Zuul status page, you will get the job results soonish
[14:43:57] <addshore>	 oooohhhh, okay
[14:43:59] <addshore>	 interesting
[14:44:44] <addshore>	 firstly hashar yay, the fact those tests run for core patchs is amazing, and not actually something I have noticed yet :D
[14:44:58] <addshore>	 secondly, should be an easy fix ! :)
[14:45:21] <multichill>	 nikki: It's always  nice to meet the people behind the nicknames. 
[14:45:33] <multichill>	 hashar: Sorry for breaking your tests :P
[14:45:41] * sjoerddebruin has no idea who multichill is. ;)
[14:46:26] <addshore>	 multichill, Lanzarote, great choice!
[14:46:35] <multichill>	 Yeah, good surf spot
[14:46:38] <addshore>	 nikki: why aren't you going? :O
[14:46:54] <multichill>	 I haven't done wind surfing for years
[14:47:13] <addshore>	 multichill: I have been to the north of fuerteventura a lot :) Corralejo!
[14:47:28] <hashar>	 addshore: I am in the process of adding more extensions to those jobs :-}
[14:47:28] <multichill>	 addshore: Wind or wave surfing?
[14:47:59] <addshore>	 multichill: never been windsurfing over there actually, but kite surfing and normal surfing! :)
[14:48:02] * sjoerddebruin is a frequent internet surfer
[14:48:04] <addshore>	 hashar: YAY! :D
[14:48:34] * multichill is just here with (extended) family
[14:49:13] <multichill>	 I doubt I will go surfing, might go for the kayak, did that this summer too and that was fun
[14:52:32] <nikki>	 addshore: it's not very good timing for me, I have appointments to go to and uni work to be doing :/ and to be honest I'm not very good with large groups of people anyway (multichill's holiday sounds like the stuff of nightmares for me :P)
[14:53:33] <multichill>	 nikki: I'm sitting on my balcony, 27 degrees laptop and a good book
[14:53:49] <Amir1>	 multichill: hey, let's work on painters
[14:53:59] <Amir1>	 sorry for not being around. I was looking fo ryou
[14:54:32] <multichill>	 I'm working on painters! Just finished https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Multichill/MoMA_painters_missing_id
[14:54:36] <nikki>	 multichill: but you don't need a group of 18 people for that :P you could've just gone with one or two people!
[14:54:41] <multichill>	 Might go fo a swim though :-)
[14:55:09] <multichill>	 Everyone is just doing their thing and most of it in smaller groups
[14:55:28] <multichill>	 Amir1: You could update the fuzzy list, that would be nice
[14:56:20] <Amir1>	 multichill: That's exactly I will do by tomorrow 
[14:56:54] <Amir1>	 I need those links again. (I had to delete history and everything)
[14:56:57] <Amir1>	 :(
[14:57:20] <sjoerddebruin>	 You have private mode for certain internet activities, Amir1 
[14:59:19] <addshore>	 hashar: I just have a picture in my head of you now relaxing on a sofa with a beer and smoke in hand watching https://integration.wikimedia.org/zuul/ on a projector waiting to jump on failing tests ;)
[15:01:36] <Reedy>	 addshore: s/beer/wine/
[15:01:39] <Reedy>	 He's french. Duh
[15:01:45] <addshore>	 oh yeh......
[15:01:59] <sjoerddebruin>	 A baguette and some brie... :)
[15:02:29] <addshore>	 http://previews.123rf.com/images/bowie15/bowie151108/bowie15110800014/10171766-Young-man-sitting-on-a-sofa-and-drinking-a-glass-of-wine-Stock-Photo.jpg
[15:03:13] <Amir1>	 sjoerddebruin: haha, no. There is a malware in my chrome. I switched to another browser and reset everything
[15:03:39] <Amir1>	 private mode is my old friend :D
[15:03:47] <sjoerddebruin>	 ;)
[15:04:17] <addshore>	 http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/8/3/5/6/3/original/what-if-the-universe-is-an-os-and-were-all-malware.jpg
[15:07:10] <multichill>	 Amir1:  https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Fuzzy_painter_matches
[15:07:25] <multichill>	 Unmatched painters is now updating
[15:07:33] <Amir1>	 addshore: :D
[15:07:41] <Amir1>	 multichill: thanks :)
[15:09:08] <sjoerddebruin>	 nikki: The idiot of the day. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1255182&action=history
[15:09:10] <multichill>	 Amir1: 6883 top_unmatched_painters.txt
[15:16:06] <Amir1>	 thanks :)
[16:40:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hm, what's wrong? My scripts don't work anymore
[16:40:56] <sjoerddebruin>	 And Lydia is gone. :O
[16:41:25] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hm, they are back...
[16:41:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 (maybe I was in the middle of a deploy)
[16:42:24] <sjoerddebruin>	 Things are faster and the source section is expanded again. :)
[16:42:43] <aude>	 sjoerddebruin: logmsgbot> !log a-nomie@tin Finished scap: SWAT: Add a change tag to cross-wiki uploads [[gerrit:246701]] 
[16:42:45] <AsimovBot>	 10[2] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/gerrit:246701
[16:43:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 Nice timing for such tasks.
[16:43:03] <aude>	 so yes, maybe some hiccup
[16:43:10] <aude>	 :/
[16:44:11] <sjoerddebruin>	 But was there also a deploy?
[16:44:26] <aude>	 sjoerddebruin: scap = deploy all the things
[16:44:38] <sjoerddebruin>	 Ah, okay!
[16:44:40] <sjoerddebruin>	 <3
[16:44:41] <aude>	 but usually not specific to wikidata
[16:45:00] <sjoerddebruin>	 There were some thingies last week, right?
[16:45:28] <aude>	 there were some issues last week, if that's what you ask?
[16:45:40] <sjoerddebruin>	 Saw something in tech news about no deploys...
[16:45:53] <aude>	 we will deploy new things tomorrow (e.g. site links for meta-wiki, etc)
[16:45:56] <aude>	 sjoerddebruin: yep :/
[16:46:13] <sjoerddebruin>	 But the linked mail was a little bit vague.
[16:46:24] <aude>	 yeah
[16:48:39] <sjoerddebruin>	 Special:NewItem is also a bit smaller than before, it seems...
[16:49:36] <aude>	 the field labels?
[16:49:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 I don't know, it feels smaller.
[16:49:55] * aude really has no idea
[16:50:09] <aude>	 nothing changed related to that afaik
[16:50:44] <sjoerddebruin>	 It's just me, I think.
[16:50:49] <aude>	 :/
[16:51:53] <sjoerddebruin>	 I think the padding of the input is smaller...
[16:53:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 hm, nope
[17:03:40] <aude>	 addshore: around?
[17:04:23] * aude needs https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/246696/ reviewed (new i18n messages for meta-wiki, mediawiki.org and wikispecies site links)
[17:05:08] <sjoerddebruin>	 Speaking about translations, I still don't see messages for the new summaries.
[17:05:24] <aude>	 sjoerddebruin: not deployed yet
[17:05:28] <Reedy>	 aude: Raymond +1'd
[17:05:31] <Reedy>	 I can +2 if it'll help :P
[17:05:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 aude: ugh
[17:05:42] <aude>	 i think summaries are deployed on thursday
[17:05:46] <aude>	 Reedy: it would help :)
[17:06:05] <aude>	 people will wonder why the messages are broken / missing if it doesn't get in localisation update in time
[17:06:12] <aude>	 Reedy: thanks :)
[17:06:14] * sjoerddebruin is the living example
[17:21:04] <SVentura>	  Howdy WD -  I just came across Wikibase and was wondering if someone could give me some more info on the tool/applications besides the description as​: ​a collection of applications and libraries for creating, managing and sharing structured data​ ​and the​ ​​open source project powering Wikidata. Thank you!!
[17:22:56] <Deskana>	 SVentura: Hi Sylvia. I'm not entirely clear on what your question is. Are you asking about what third parties use Wikibase, or how we use it in the Wikimedia movement?
[17:23:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 Eeks, looks like a script is broken https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk%3AGadget-Merge.js&type=revision&diff=260126670&oldid=259256379
[17:23:47] <SVentura>	 @deskana: great question. that'd be both. 
[17:24:05] <SVentura>	 right now the site lists WD and Europeana
[17:24:13] <SVentura>	 wonder if those are the only ones 
[17:25:18] <Deskana>	 SVentura: I don't know what the answer to the first question is. I'd recommend asking Lydia about that one.
[17:25:33] <Deskana>	 SVentura: For the second question, the answer is that it's the MediaWiki extension that powers Wikidata.
[17:26:03] <SVentura>	 OK, am i right to understand that anyone using MediaWiki can use Wikibase then? 
[17:27:21] <SVentura>	 and how does one become part of the "collection of applications and libraries"? 
[17:27:51] <SVentura>	 :)
[17:28:53] <Deskana>	 SVentura: Sure, anyone can install Wikibase on their wiki if they like. It's open source and freely available.
[17:29:25] <SVentura>	 got it!
[17:29:29] <Deskana>	 SVentura: Your second question there is quite open ended, but the answer is that it's the same as any open source project; people can submit code to fix issues or add functionality.
[17:32:24] <SVentura>	  make sense. Is there a known criteria to be added/listed in the collection? Is the tool curated by a community besides its developers? are these sale developers as MW and/or WD or a different group? .... 
[17:33:18] <SVentura>	 sale = same
[17:34:41] <Deskana>	 SVentura: I
[17:34:45] <Deskana>	 SVentura: Whoops.
[17:36:13] <Deskana>	 SVentura: Your question is a little confusing. It would be helpful to know why you're asking.
[17:38:22] <Ocaasi__>	 Hi folks, just a heads up that there's a weeklong Global Wikipedia Open Access Editathon happening.  You might see some traffic from it.  Here are the details: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/OA_week
[17:42:13] <SVentura>	 Deskana, sorry if confusing, that is not the intent. There's is no specific reason other that trying to understand what in Wikibase and how it fits within our tools and open ecosystem.  The word "powered" and "open source" brought some questions around possible access by organizations handling structured data - organizations we/WMF/WM movement might want to 
[17:42:13] <SVentura>	 work closely with.  if that makes sense. Happy to take this offline. I am just doing discovery here. 
[17:59:17] <Lydia_WMDE>	 SVentura: the list on wikiba.se is curated by me basically. anything that is nice, open and worth showing can go there in principle
[17:59:55] <Lydia_WMDE>	 as for how it fits into our ecosystem: it enhances mediawiki to give us what you see on wikidata.org
[18:03:01] <SVentura>	 hi Lydia_WMDE, great connecting here, okay that helps, thank you!
[18:53:21] * nikki feels lost without the merge gadget
[18:54:46] <sjoerddebruin>	 There are enough other backlogs. <3
[18:59:08] <nikki>	 I wasn't even looking for things to merge, I just stumbled on something, tried to merge it and was like "oh... right, yeah, it's not working right now >_<"
[18:59:24] <sjoerddebruin>	 We have a special page for merging too. ;)
[18:59:37] <nikki>	 I'm just making a note of them and will do them later :P
[19:04:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 Eeks, the date game is becoming slow.
[19:06:39] <nikki>	 :/
[19:54:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115892
[19:54:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 Maybe we should revoke the merging rights to avoid a mess.
[19:55:50] <sjoerddebruin>	 aude: ^
[19:56:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: hmmm yeah might be reasonable
[19:56:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ccd a few people
[20:01:34] <sjoerddebruin>	 Lydia_WMDE: Should I hide the merge.js option with css?
[20:02:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: yeah that would be good
[20:02:14] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx!
[20:02:25] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i don't think we changed anything in the merge api
[20:02:26] <harej>	 Lydia_WMDE, can I PM you?
[20:02:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 so i wonder what happened
[20:02:38] <Lydia_WMDE>	 needs investigating definitely
[20:02:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 harej: sure
[20:02:55] * Lydia_WMDE is pretty tired already though
[20:09:33] <sjoerddebruin>	 Not the best time to have this yes
[20:53:24] <sjoerddebruin>	 Fuck. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Andre_Engels
[20:55:40] <JohnFLewis>	 hm.
[20:56:00] <JohnFLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: maybe time to revoke the right? the old 'let's not disrupt things' reason?
[20:56:08] <andre__>	 uhm
[20:59:39] <nikki>	 hm. all of the references sections on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20041787 are expanded for me, even the one with a reference
[20:59:52] <nikki>	 even in a private window
[21:00:01] <sjoerddebruin>	 nikki: The one with is collapsed here.
[21:00:10] <nikki>	 and in the private window the sitenotice sometimes appears at the bottom of the page, sometimes at the top o_O
[21:00:12] <sjoerddebruin>	 The old behaviour restored.
[21:01:27] <nikki>	 weird... it's not collapsing it for that item for me
[21:01:34] <sjoerddebruin>	 Cache?
[21:03:57] <nikki>	 I thought checking in a private window would help with that :/ tried ctrl-shift-r too... it seems it works if I add ?uselang=de but breaks again if I add ?uselang=en
[21:45:07] <legoktm>	 https://github.com/wmde/DataTypes/pull/39