[02:00:12] * hoo head desks
[02:00:36] * nikki wonders why
[02:01:23] <hoo>	 Apparently we deployed WikibaseQuality to beta, but not with the localization stuff in place
[02:01:28] <hoo>	 And I wasn't informed
[02:01:29] <hoo>	 ...
[02:02:28] <hoo>	 jzerebecki: ping
[03:03:06] <JeroenDeDauw>	 heh
[03:03:18] <JeroenDeDauw>	 panic!
[03:44:04] <JeroenDeDauw>	 All vote on this evil issue https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/WI-12654
[04:24:48] <JeroenDeDauw>	 And also this one https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/WI-17673
[06:01:46] <Dworkin>	 Hello everybody.
[06:04:57] <Dworkin>	 Today, when I use wikidata via the API, I try to load that page : "https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbsearchentities&search=coupe%20du%20monde%20de%20football&language=fr&format=json" but wikidata respond {"servedby":"mw1200","error":{"code":"internal_api_error_DBQueryError","info":"[7e91d923] Database query error"}} . Is there something wrong with my query??
[06:09:10] <nikki>	 the link works fine for me
[06:09:20] <nikki>	 are you sure it wasn't just a temporary error?
[09:21:35] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 benestar: I just wanted to move the ticket from "doing" to "review". Instead I could move it straight to "done". Nice. :) Thanks!
[09:21:48] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 And thanks for the perf ticket!
[09:23:23] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: thanks for the fix, really strange we didn't update these bindings :S
[09:23:41] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Since January! o_O
[09:37:57] <addshore>	 See you all later!
[11:22:10] <Nemo_bis>	 perf fixes, always sweet
[11:59:31] <jzerebecki>	 hoo: is it ok if I deploy the Quality stuff before 1900 ?
[12:00:00] <hoo>	 jzerebecki: Apparently it already *is* deployed
[12:00:09] <hoo>	 But that was screwed up: https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources/pull/31
[12:00:23] <jzerebecki>	 hoo: yea that and the constraint extension
[12:00:51] <hoo>	 If you want to do it, that's fine with me, I have enough stuff to work on
[12:00:59] <hoo>	 Make sure to let the students know
[12:01:34] <jzerebecki>	 hoo: ok, will do
[12:15:18] <hoo>	 jzerebecki: Will you also be around for the train deploy tonight? In that case I could take the evening off
[12:15:42] <jzerebecki>	 mh
[12:23:55] <jzerebecki>	 hoo: ok, I will be around for train
[12:26:04] * aude will be at the beach :)
[12:26:14] <aude>	 e.g. not around
[12:26:48] <hoo>	 That sounds fun :)
[12:27:26] <hoo>	 I might attend a local wine festival thing, now that I don't need to be around :)
[12:27:30] <aude>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coney_Island 
[12:27:58] <frimelle>	 aude: ahhh, you told me! So cool, it's raining like crazy in Berlin :(
[12:28:25] <hoo>	 aude: That looks nice... how's the weather?
[12:28:46] <hoo>	 frimelle: It's nice over here 8)
[12:29:29] <frimelle>	 aude: looks a bit like in a very American movie! So cool!
[12:29:37] <aude>	 it's hot
[12:30:19] <frimelle>	 hoo: obviously. arrrgh. I'm on a festival at the weekend. Guess the festival is going to drown...
[12:35:45] <hoo>	 jzerebecki: https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources/pull/31
[12:35:55] <hoo>	 Also needed for the new extension oyu'll deploy
[12:43:54] <frimelle>	 hoo the merge items still fails!? Why did I remember the tests run without failing? :( Do you remember?  (The weekend was apparently too long.)
[12:45:20] <hoo>	 I think they worked for me, but I can't say for sure
[12:45:25] <hoo>	 let me check it out again
[12:46:20] <hoo>	 oh do
[12:46:21] <hoo>	 h
[12:46:29] <hoo>	 Still that one function call that needs to be adopted
[12:47:31] <frimelle>	 Ah, right. There was that thing! Okay, sorry and thank you :)
[12:48:07] <hoo>	 Be sure to use the latest version from gerrit to work on
[12:48:47] <nikki>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103489 is a duplicate of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102360 isn't it?
[12:49:36] <hoo>	 yep
[12:52:22] <benestar>	 nikki: merged ;)
[12:52:42] <nikki>	 thanks :)
[12:53:07] <nikki>	 one day I'll actually *do* something on phabricator
[13:02:40] <sjoerddebruin>	 nikki: Don't know I we have a deletion policy about talk pages on redirect items. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Talk:Q9939236
[13:03:06] <nikki>	 I didn't add the delete message
[13:04:21] <benestar>	 sjoerddebruin: ok with what I did?
[13:04:59] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, sorry. Need to check diffs before I talk.
[13:05:10] <nikki>	 :)
[13:05:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 Was working on http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/geneawiki2/?q=Q20202676
[13:09:00] <hoo>	 putnik: Guess you noticed that we deployed arbitrary access to ruwiki earlier today?
[13:11:50] <matej_suchanek>	 hoo: I did too :)
[13:12:28] <hoo>	 Great :)
[13:12:38] <aude>	 https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Aude
[13:12:59] <YuviPanda>	 hey matej_suchanek!
[13:13:12] <YuviPanda>	 matej_suchanek: can you hit 'submit' on the queries of yours that are still counting as 'running'?
[13:13:14] <YuviPanda>	 (http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/runs/all)
[13:13:49] <matej_suchanek>	 yes
[13:15:25] <YuviPanda>	 matej_suchanek: some issues recovering from the labs outage last weekend. mostly all back now, though :)
[13:16:20] <matej_suchanek>	 thanks for your work on this, you weren't responsible for the outage, were you?
[13:18:52] <sjoerddebruin>	 This doesn't sound right to me. Shouldn't be added with the lifestyle property? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16830344
[13:23:32] <jzerebecki>	 hoo: localization update for beta is done
[13:23:40] <hoo>	 nice
[13:23:50] <YuviPanda>	 matej_suchanek: :) no I wasn't.
[13:24:06] <YuviPanda>	 matej_suchanek: do file any feature requests for quarry. I might find some time next week to do it
[13:24:57] <matej_suchanek>	 great
[13:25:19] <putnik>	 hoo, nice. There was no time to look.
[13:27:05] <YuviPanda>	 http://engineering.intenthq.com/2015/06/wikidata-akka-streams/
[13:34:58] <jzerebecki>	 hoo: merge? https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources/pull/28 i'll do a build
[13:36:29] <jzerebecki>	 Thiemo_WMDE1: merge^^?
[13:54:00] <hoo>	 done
[13:54:42] <putnik>	 hoo, last week I was playing with my Wikidata pet project (http://en.kinopedia.org/), but it looks like I'll have to go back to the Wikipedia =)
[13:57:23] <hoo>	 hehe :D To many projects, yet not enough time
[14:45:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: ruwiki and cswiki have arbitrary access now? as in i can go and announce?
[14:53:56] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: Yes and yes :)
[14:54:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 \o/
[15:00:14] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Lydia_WMDE: "This page lists pages with no connected data item (in namespaces that support connected items). The list is sorted by descending page ID, so that newer pages are listed first."
[15:00:18] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 sane?
[15:01:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE_: jep
[15:01:46] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: entity usage on ruwiki grew by more than 500k since we deploy arbitrary access
[15:01:52] <hoo>	 * deployed
[15:02:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: wait what?
[15:02:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 in 3 hours?
[15:02:47] <hoo>	 I guess... it went from 6187301 to 6697603
[15:03:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 interesting
[15:03:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[15:03:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx
[15:16:56] <sjoerddebruin>	 DanielK_WMDE_: That sorting sounds good. :)
[15:46:50] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Lydia_WMDE, addshore: http://www.douglasadams.com/dna/980707-03-a.html
[16:23:12] <hoo>	 tamslo: ping (also the others, but I'm bad at remembering hte names, sorrY)
[16:26:19] <tamslo>	 hoo: I'm here :)
[16:27:19] <hoo>	 Did you see Jan's email?
[16:27:37] <hoo>	 I guess it would be nice if you could create some test data on beta and make sure we can play with that
[16:28:03] <Guest48676>	 Yes, good idea.
[16:28:32] <Guest48676>	 How do we communicate, what data we would suggest? (I'm Jonas)
[16:29:14] <jonaskeutel>	 Once we have created it?
[16:31:06] <jzerebecki>	 jonaskeutel: link to it from the ticket for review & deployment
[16:33:29] <jonaskeutel>	 Allright.
[16:33:59] <jonaskeutel>	 The data in the constraints table are the ones from the csv, right?
[16:41:41] <jzerebecki>	 jonaskeutel: if you are asking if the table got filled, no i didn't do that
[16:42:24] <jonaskeutel>	 Then, there won't be any constraints we can check against. 
[16:42:57] <hoo>	 Yeah
[16:43:02] <hoo>	 because there aren't any on beta
[16:43:03] <jzerebecki>	 jonaskeutel: there might not be any useful constraints on beta yet...
[16:43:08] <hoo>	 or we could take the production ones
[16:43:22] <hoo>	 They don't even ahve the template, yet (so you would need to create it)
[16:43:46] <jonaskeutel>	 Even if we take the production ones, it wouldn't make much sense since the properties are not the same, I think.
[16:44:10] <jonaskeutel>	 So maybe we should creat a fitting csv-file for the data on beta?
[16:45:12] <jonaskeutel>	 With, maybe 10 constraints?
[16:46:32] <hoo>	 I think it would be better to create the template there and stuff data into that
[16:46:43] <hoo>	 so we can also use hte python like in production
[16:48:03] <jonaskeutel>	 Okay...
[17:33:02] <hoo>	 Ewk... there 25k properties on beta
[17:33:16] <hoo>	 Considering how our property info store is implemented that's awry
[17:33:25] <hoo>	 + are
[17:35:01] <jzerebecki>	 hoo: i thought you wanted to take the evening off ;)
[17:36:05] <hoo>	 Oh, I said I might, but that didn't work out, so I'm going to be here until late tonight
[17:36:20] <hoo>	 You don't need to be around, I can cover the deploy etc.
[17:37:09] <jzerebecki>	 ok
[17:37:54] <hoo>	 jonaskeutel et al: If you need help with anything, let me know. I guess it would be nice to get stuff rolling today or tomorrow at least
[17:38:28] <jonaskeutel>	 Yes, you are right, but we are not sure, what would be best to do.
[17:39:32] <hoo>	 Feel free to create items/ properties/... as you see fit
[17:39:35] <jonaskeutel>	 We could create another 10 properties and 10 items or somethin like that. Then, you could let the python script and then the maintance script run.
[17:40:10] <hoo>	 Yeah, that sounds reasonable
[17:40:49] <jzerebecki>	 jonaskeutel: you also need to create the constraint templates and add constraints with it to those properties
[17:40:57] <jonaskeutel>	 Yes.
[17:40:58] <hoo>	 There's a few things that should be changed in the python script, but I guess it's ok for now if it works
[17:41:07] <hoo>	 (I looked at it briefly earlier today)
[17:42:04] <jonaskeutel>	 Right. I guess the url should be changed to beta and the propertynumber to end with should be set to 27k or something like that.
[17:42:37] <hoo>	 :P
[17:42:45] <jonaskeutel>	 Maybe it would make sense to change to starting number to 25K since the first 25K doesn't make any sense?
[17:42:54] <hoo>	 Sounds reasonable
[17:43:20] <hoo>	 I guess you should have looked into the API a bit before writing the script, there's stuff that could have been done way more straight-forward
[17:44:29] <jonaskeutel>	 Yes... It was actually meant to be a hack to get started. We thought, we migrate the constraints to statements on properties so this script runs once...
[17:44:50] <hoo>	 That sounds reasonable
[17:45:00] <hoo>	 Are there actualy plans to do that?
[17:45:13] <hoo>	 (Migrate the constraints)
[17:45:44] <jzerebecki>	 hoo: there are already some in statements on properties
[17:45:57] <hoo>	 Oh, nice :)
[17:46:34] <jonaskeutel>	 Yes. We are working on a PyWikiBot for the migration. The difficult part is to keep everything up-to-date after the migration. Keeping only the constraints table up to date is easy, but when it comes to having violations stored it gets way more difficult.
[17:46:57] <jonaskeutel>	 Well... The statements on properties are not "constraints" as we call it...
[17:52:20] <jonaskeutel>	 Uhm... Before we start creating the template: Is this necessary? In the python script, we are only looking for "{{Constraint:...}}"-parts on the edit-page of the property talk pages. So actually, we don't need this, I think. Should we do this nevertheless?
[17:56:26] <jzerebecki>	 hoo, jonaskeutel: this is the only property for using on properties as a soft constraint i could find though: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1793 that one is a constraint as you call it, right?
[17:57:01] <jzerebecki>	 jonaskeutel: would be nice to actually have the template working
[17:58:15] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 salut Ash_Crow !
[17:59:26] <jonaskeutel>	 Yes and no. This is a constraint as we call it and there is also "mandatory qualifiers" and "symmetric property" and maybe some more. But all of them are ignored by both Ivans constraint check and our tool. For the statements-on-properties-constraints, we need a certain format we discussed on the property proposal page with the community and ended up with actually mapping Ivans strucure...
[17:59:27] <jonaskeutel>	 ...nearly 1:1 to statements on properties.
[18:00:57] <jonaskeutel>	 Okay. Could you give me a hint on how to get templates from one wiki to another? I'm sure I read about it somewhere but I'm afraid I don't know it anymore.
[18:01:27] <hoo>	 jonaskeutel: Are you an Admin on beta Wikidata?
[18:01:56] <hoo>	 Easiest is to just copy it and tell where you took it from in the edit summary
[18:02:20] <jonaskeutel>	 I guess I am no admin.
[18:03:47] <hoo>	 Ok, you could have imported the template if you were one
[18:03:58] <hoo>	 but c&p is easier anyway and it's a beta wiki, so why bother
[18:04:48] <jonaskeutel>	 Right, importing it was what we did on our local wikis. But yes, c&p sounds reasonable.
[18:06:26] <jonaskeutel>	 So... You said you work til late night? ;) Then I will speak to the other members of our team and we will create some test data. We will write it here once we are done so you can start the scripts? 
[18:06:56] <hoo>	 Yeah, I'll be here until early tomorrow :P
[18:07:37] * hoo sees the entity usage on ruwiki steadily growing
[18:40:04] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: New record. :) http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/geneawiki2/?q=Q20202676
[18:56:51] <dominicsauer>	 hoo: It seems that the Templates are working on beta, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Constraint and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Constraint:Symmetric. The only thing not working is the {{int:colon}} shown as <colon>. Can you tell me why this happens?
[18:57:18] <hoo>	 MediaWiki:colon probably doesn't exist
[18:57:43] <dominicsauer>	 hoo: Another problem is that we can not create new properties on beta. We get a Permission error
[18:59:00] <dominicsauer>	 hoo: I just use the ":" directly now. This should work or am I wrong?
[18:59:11] <hoo>	 It wont, template magic
[18:59:21] <hoo>	 Well, depends on the position
[18:59:23] <hoo>	 but often it wont
[18:59:34] <hoo>	 taht's also why we have {{!}} which yields |
[19:01:02] <hoo>	 dominicsauer: If you give me your account name, I can make you admin
[19:01:08] <hoo>	 (also others, if there's a need)
[19:01:38] <dominicsauer>	 But it is shown correctly. If we gather any problems, we then know why
[19:01:51] <hoo>	 Created http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Colon&action=history btw
[19:02:09] <hoo>	 "‎Dominic.sauer" got it
[19:02:55] <hoo>	 Looks like beta is buggy
[19:03:02] <hoo>	 but you should be able to create properties now
[19:08:44] <dominicsauer>	 thanks :)
[19:09:52] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: Record in what sense?
[19:10:05] <sjoerddebruin>	 Personal record for most people.
[19:10:13] <multichill>	 Biggest European family not connected with the European supercluster?
[19:12:13] <dominicsauer>	 hoo: your changes with the colon creates a linebreak not a colon
[19:13:09] <hoo>	 doh
[19:13:11] <hoo>	 &#58;&#32;
[19:13:20] <hoo>	 that's what we substitute it with
[19:13:25] <hoo>	 fixed
[19:13:53] * benestar waves at hoo 
[19:13:58] <hoo>	 hi benestar :)
[19:14:15] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: Looks nice though. Can we connect them more? :-)
[19:14:27] <benestar>	 hoo: talked with Daniel about the capiunto thing and he told my why it would make sense to put the whole stuff into capiunto
[19:14:40] <hoo>	 Yeah
[19:14:42] <benestar>	 because the api for structured infoboxes should know which properties are used from wikidata
[19:14:47] <hoo>	 Exactly
[19:14:56] <hoo>	 I didn't think about that, then I talked to you in Lyon
[19:15:00] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: I don't know. I only can create some childeren I think...
[19:15:02] <benestar>	 and it will become tricky to hook into that api thing as well
[19:15:05] <benestar>	 hoo: why didn't you tell me that earlier? :P
[19:15:07] <hoo>	 Yeah
[19:15:13] <dominicsauer>	 hoo: thanks! works fine!
[19:15:20] <hoo>	 Well, we're still not totally suere we will be creating that api
[19:15:20] <benestar>	 sjoerddebruin: lol, create some children xD
[19:15:27] <hoo>	 so let's not waste time
[19:15:32] <hoo>	 dominicsauer: Awesome :)
[19:15:39] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, I also kill people.
[19:15:41] <sjoerddebruin>	 On Wikidata. ;)
[19:16:37] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: Who are these people?
[19:16:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: I was focussing on De Vos van Steenwijk. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Vos_van_Steenwijk
[19:17:17] <sjoerddebruin>	 But there were some connections with other family's.
[19:17:39] <multichill>	 Ah, nice! I did some of these families too some time ago
[19:17:51] <sjoerddebruin>	 I really like making these connections.
[19:18:02] <multichill>	 Alway nice point when you find the missing link to the supercluster
[19:18:07] <GerardM->	 Yep that is fun
[19:18:30] <multichill>	 I guess you're aware of https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Multichill/Adel_zonder_familie ?
[19:18:51] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, but I mostly get lost after editing one item without statements. ;)
[19:19:12] <multichill>	 That's how it's supposed to work :-)
[19:19:22] <multichill>	 Just a list of inspiration of what to work on
[19:25:05] <benestar>	 hoo: so I should just wait with moving my patch to capiunto?
[19:25:35] <hoo>	 Yes, let's wait until we know where we going
[19:25:52] <hoo>	 and possibly also until we know basically how the API output would look like
[19:25:59] <hoo>	 * we're
[19:26:15] <hoo>	 * on a basic level
[19:26:42] <benestar>	 k
[19:26:45] <benestar>	 hoo: easy one https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/220251/
[19:29:14] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: http://www.genealogics.org/advsearch.php?name_search=+van+Steenwijk&tree=LEO&page=home&language=languages%2FEnglish-UTF8&offset=0
[19:29:35] <sjoerddebruin>	 Ja, er is genoeg nog te doen. :P
[19:30:48] <multichill>	 Of vanaf de bovenste: http://www.genealogics.org/descendtext.php?personID=I00070650&tree=LEO&generations=
[19:34:36] <benestar>	 hoo: added you to two more easy ones ;)
[19:34:43] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: What source did you use?
[19:35:09] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: Multiple, some are Parlement.com. See the references.
[19:40:48] <multichill>	 hi Dmcdevit
[19:40:53] <benestar>	 !merge 217240 | JeroenDeDauw hoo 
[19:40:53] <wm-bot>	 JeroenDeDauw hoo: merge merge merge MERGEEEEEEEEEEEEE https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/217240/
[19:41:00] <Dmcdevit>	 Hey multichill. :-)
[19:41:27] <multichill>	 How are you? Coming to Mexico too?
[19:42:05] <Dmcdevit>	 No, we’re not going to make it out this year. :/
[19:45:12] <benestar>	 SMalyshev: hey, did you already take another look at asparagus?
[19:46:45] <Dmcdevit>	 multichill: You should figure out a reason to come to WikiConference USA! :-)
[19:47:19] <multichill>	 Dmcdevit: Baby stuff or out of time because of other holidays?
[19:49:15] <multichill>	 Maybe https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings Dmcdevit? I've been making quite a bit of progress. I added the MET, MOMA, Gugenheim, Frick, Brooklyn museum, 
[19:49:54] <multichill>	 Walters Art, National Gallery of Art, Getty, Art Museum of San Francisco and currently working on Chicago
[19:50:01] <multichill>	 And I probably forgot some
[19:50:02] <Dmcdevit>	 Not just the baby, though we are saving our vacation time for that too. Mainly just too many other things going on and not worth scrounging up the funding.
[19:50:44] <Dmcdevit>	 Any Smithsonians?
[19:51:02] <multichill>	 Which one has the good paintings again? ;-)
[19:51:15] <multichill>	 Working my way down https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_visited_art_museums_in_the_world
[19:52:29] <Dmcdevit>	 There’s the Smithsonian American Art Museum and the National Portrait Gallery, but also others with some smaller painting collections, like the Freer/Sackler, African Art Museum, and American Indian, at least.
[19:54:42] <SMalyshev>	 benestar: not yet
[19:55:26] <benestar>	 SMalyshev: just want to know if it supports all features you need or if there is some functionality missing
[19:55:35] <multichill>	 Dmcdevit: http://npgportraits.si.edu/emuseumNPG/code/emuseum.asp?style=browse&currentrecord=28&page=search&profile=NPG&searchdesc=Classification%20can%20be%20Paint...&searchstring=Classification/,/can%20be/,/Painting/,/false/,/false&newvalues=1&newaction=newpage&newstyle=single&newcurrentrecord=30 
[19:55:38] <multichill>	 Can scrape that
[19:55:44] <SMalyshev>	 benestar: I'll take a look soon
[19:55:59] <benestar>	 yeah, don't hurry ;)
[19:56:15] <Dmcdevit>	 That link gives me a 500 error. Is it not a persistent URL?
[19:56:21] <multichill>	 Horrible javascript site from the 90s
[19:56:32] <multichill>	 Hmm, that's going to be fun
[19:56:45] <Dmcdevit>	 collections.si.edu might have the same content in better shape.
[19:57:04] <Dmcdevit>	 If you can filter by institution and medium, and they have those same records.
[19:57:53] <multichill>	 I'll figure it out by the time I get to that one
[20:04:18] <hoo|away>	 I'll be back in like 20-40 min
[21:05:42] <benestar>	 sjoerddebruin: did you create a ticket on phabricator for the issue with the reference duplicator?
[21:05:58] <sjoerddebruin>	 Nope, forgot that.
[21:06:05] <benestar>	 also I really love this Wikidata-gadgets project there <3
[21:06:12] <sjoerddebruin>	 Thanks.
[21:06:16] <benestar>	 so much better than scrolling through talk pages
[21:06:21] <sjoerddebruin>	 It really sounded more like a Wikibase-bug tbh.
[21:06:53] <benestar>	 sjoerddebruin: you mean the duplicate thing?
[21:07:35] <sjoerddebruin>	 That you can't add a copied reference after you delete the existing one
[21:07:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 I also can't add qualifiers after I delete the reference, so sounds like Wikibase.
[21:09:12] <benestar>	 sjoerddebruin: so rather file a bug on wikibaserepo then?
[21:09:19] <benestar>	 and explain the steps to reproduce pls :)
[21:09:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 Will test now
[21:10:53] <sjoerddebruin>	 1. Remove the only existing reference
[21:11:05] <sjoerddebruin>	 2. Try to add a qualifier to the statement
[21:11:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 3. It never saves, stays on "saving..."
[21:11:23] * benestar tries
[21:13:23] <benestar>	 sjoerddebruin: glps: Error: Parameter not specified properly
[21:14:20] <sjoerddebruin>	 Ok.
[21:14:41] <benestar>	 will create a ticket
[21:14:47] <sjoerddebruin>	 Anyway, the same applies when you want to add a copied reference to a statement where you've just removed the only reference.
[21:14:52] <benestar>	 or did you create one already?
[21:14:58] <sjoerddebruin>	 Nope, too busy.
[21:15:26] <benestar>	 k
[21:18:04] <MGChecker>	 Can someone explain me where is the difference between P279 and P31?
[21:18:12] <benestar>	 sjoerddebruin: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103603
[21:18:52] <sjoerddebruin>	 !lydia
[21:18:52] <wm-bot>	 \o/
[21:20:23] <sjoerddebruin>	 benestar: I'm wondering if the coordinates could also be linked to a localized page instead of the English one.
[21:21:07] <benestar>	 sjoerddebruin: they link to wmflabs now?
[21:21:22] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, but the lang parameter is always en.
[21:22:34] <benestar>	 tbh the whole gadget should be inside of wikibase :S
[21:22:45] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, I know.
[21:23:17] <benestar>	 but when the identifier datatype comes this will all look better already :)
[21:23:29] <sjoerddebruin>	 <3
[21:27:30] <benestar>	 !merge 217241 | hoo 
[21:27:30] <wm-bot>	 hoo: merge merge merge MERGEEEEEEEEEEEEE https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/217241/
[21:28:10] <MGChecker>	 Sorry, but what is the identifier datatype?
[21:41:12] <benestar>	 sjoerddebruin: lol https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-Move.js&curid=3241319&diff=223532543&oldid=223532458
[21:41:25] <sjoerddebruin>	 <3