[03:58:02] 10Wikidata: Use composer-merge-plugin to include Wikidata components in mediawiki-vendor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95663#1316538 (10Legoktm) [03:58:05] 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 6Release-Engineering, 7Composer, 5Patch-For-Review: enable use of a composer created autoloader in extensions deployed to production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97560#1316536 (10Legoktm) 5Open>3Resolved a:3JeroenDeDauw [07:56:54] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: make it possible to easily clone an existing reference from the same item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76233#1316938 (10Bene) One option which comes into my mind is to reuse exactly the same reference, and use an URI for it, so that each reference... [08:23:29] hoo: hi [08:23:32] thanks for the review [08:23:52] can you please take a look at my comment at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/214119/4/modules/publish/ext.cx.publish.js on line 296? [08:24:26] Will have a look [08:24:36] thank you [08:41:39] aharoni: You rise a good question there [08:41:43] * raise [08:42:10] I think that needs Wikibase to be adopted [08:42:13] will comment [08:43:37] hoo: Thanks. Until you do that, how safe is it to assume that on Wikimedia wikis wikiid is the same thing? [08:43:56] I think for Wikimedia that works all the time [08:44:01] cool, thanks [08:44:15] But don't rely on that [08:44:20] will make testing very tedious [08:44:26] depending on your Wikibase set up [09:19:21] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20000000 [09:22:10] \o/ [09:28:09] (03PS16) 10Dominic.sauer: WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 [09:29:03] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [09:45:15] 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 6Release-Engineering, 7Composer, and 3 others: enable use of a composer created autoloader in extensions deployed to production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97560#1317062 (10hashar) @JanZerebecki seems that fix would unlock a lot of issue for Wikibase an... [09:57:22] (03PS17) 10Dominic.sauer: WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 [09:58:39] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [10:00:17] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 2015-05-28T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214317 [10:03:32] sjoerddebruin: \o/ :) [10:08:49] hallo [10:10:59] for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/214119/ , hoo suggested using the wbsetsitelink API, and it's curious because I don't see it used anywhere in the Wikibase code. [10:11:13] Of course it's possible that I'm not searching correctly. [10:11:35] aharoni: not all our api modules are used by wikibase itself [10:11:47] (e.g. some is intended for bots, gadgets, etc) [10:12:18] for your patch, probably makes sense to use it [10:18:20] [13WikibaseDataModelJavaScript] 15filbertkm 04force-pushed 061.1.0 from 14c7ae8d9 to 14439c654: 02http://git.io/vT3e5 [10:18:20] 13WikibaseDataModelJavaScript/061.1.0 14439c654 15aude: Update RELEASE NOTES to 1.0.2... [10:21:09] 10Wikidata: Adding MIP to Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94573#1317131 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined I am going to close this as it wasn't worked on during the hackathon as far as I know and should be handled on-wiki. [10:23:13] (03PS14) 10Aude: Default mw.wikibase.* lua functions to the connected item of a page [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/210907 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99078) [10:23:19] (03CR) 10Aude: Default mw.wikibase.* lua functions to the connected item of a page (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/210907 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99078) (owner: 10Aude) [10:31:15] Hi [10:33:23] What is the best way to contact Wikidata developers? [10:33:23] (03CR) 10Aude: Update to data-values/javascript 0.7.0 (031 comment) [extensions/WikibaseJavaScriptApi] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/211111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99231) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [10:34:51] aude: OK. The reason I looked for it is that I tried to figure out how to get around CORS. [10:35:09] I'm supposed to do it with .postWithToken( 'edit', etc. right? [10:35:29] aharoni: whatever we do with the "add links" widget [10:35:56] yes - but it doens't use wbsetsitelink [10:36:07] don't think it matters which module [10:36:16] cors should work the same [10:36:20] or whatnot [10:37:57] aharoni: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/blob/master/client/resources/wikibase.client.PageConnector.js#L271 [10:38:02] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Ensure WikibaseDataModelSerialization feature parity with WikibaseLib - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73170#1317166 (10daniel) @JeroenDeDauw In theory, you are right: the serializer should just serialize whetever they are given. In practice, this mean... [10:38:03] apparently we do use setSiteLink [10:41:37] aude: thanks, I was looking at the same function, but I'm trying to understand where is the actual API call [10:41:57] it's in the WikibaseJavaScriptApi component [10:42:08] (which you could use) [10:42:16] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseJavaScriptApi/tree/master/src [10:43:24] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Ensure WikibaseDataModelSerialization feature parity with WikibaseLib - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73170#1317167 (10daniel) @JeroenDeDauw You can also see it this way: feature parity is for model+serializer. If we move all the options and modes int... [10:44:00] Aha! Checking out, thanks. [10:44:31] it basically does postWithToken [10:44:33] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseJavaScriptApi/blob/master/src/RepoApi.js#L905 [10:46:37] I would like some feedback on T99560 (XML serialization of Special:EntityData API) [10:46:43] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99560 [10:48:12] What is the status of XML data format? [11:00:35] aude: my head spins... it sounds like it's so simple, but there are so many modules calling each other. [11:00:49] should I use wikibase.client.PageConnector? [11:04:23] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Ensure feature parity of serialization based on WikibaseDataModelSerialization with what we do with WikibaseLib - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73170#1317225 (10daniel) [11:05:16] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Ensure feature parity of serialization based on WikibaseDataModelSerialization with what we do with WikibaseLib - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73170#754985 (10daniel) I have edited the description to remove the implication that *all* these features h... [11:07:26] oh, I'm slowly starting to get it... [11:07:59] MUCH REDIRECTION * SO SOFTWARE ENGINEERING * WOW MODULAR [11:13:42] aude, I'm trying to do this: [11:13:45] pc = new wikibase.PageConnector( repoApi, 'cawiki', 'Xarxa transeuropea de transport', 'enwiki', 'Trans-European Transport Networks' ); [11:13:49] sorry, first: [11:13:52] repoApi = wikibase.client.getMwApiForRepo(); [11:13:53] then: [11:13:56] pc = new wikibase.PageConnector( repoApi, 'cawiki', 'Xarxa transeuropea de transport', 'enwiki', 'Trans-European Transport Networks' ); [11:13:58] and then: [11:14:08] pc.linkPages() [11:14:11] And I get an error: [11:14:30] "this._repoApi.getEntitiesByPage is not a function" at wikibase.client.PageConnector.js:101:24 [11:14:53] So I guess that I'm not initializing repoApi correctly, but I can't figure out the right way. [11:28:15] aharoni: is there a patch in gerrit? [11:29:03] aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/214119/ , although it's with raw post requests and not PageConnector [11:29:13] Is there any reason to use PageConnector? Is it safer? More complete? [11:29:47] aharoni: if it does what you need, then less code duplication? [11:29:57] but then you have hard dependency on wikibase [11:30:29] suppose it could be made optional (e.g. check if wikibase is there, then ...) [11:32:07] Where can I find the code behind https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/? [11:32:17] aude: Yes, I can do that, [11:32:23] Where can I find the code behind https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/ ? [11:32:30] ENZ: we don't support xml anymore :( [11:32:33] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93353 [11:32:36] (03PS18) 10Dominic.sauer: WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 [11:32:38] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [11:32:38] aude: but then the question is how do I actually use it. [11:32:46] let me fidn the code [11:33:04] aude, see above: repoApi = wikibase.client.getMwApiForRepo(); new wikibase.PageConnector( repoApi, 'cawiki', 'Xarxa transeuropea de transport', 'enwiki', 'Trans-European Transport Networks' ); pc.linkPages(); [11:33:04] the xml didn't work very well [11:33:06] this fails [11:34:30] @aude thanks for the reference ; which formats are supported then? only JSON and RDF? [11:34:30] 04Error: Command “aude” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [11:34:38] ENZ: i think so [11:34:46] they will be more stable and best supported [11:35:03] xml has always been buggy :/ [11:35:32] Aude: that's too bad because I wrote my scripts just a couple of weeks before you removed support [11:35:50] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/blob/master/repo/includes/specials/SpecialEntityData.php is the code [11:36:06] Aude: I think my best option now is to convert the JSON output to something that looks like the former XML format [11:36:10] and https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/tree/master/repo/includes/LinkedData [11:36:20] ENZ: unfortunate :( [11:36:28] Aude: since it went XML -> JSON previously if I understand correctly? [11:36:35] but think json would work in your case [11:37:13] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 2015-05-28T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214317 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [11:37:56] aharoni: i'll have to checkout the patch [11:39:14] aude: you'll also need all of ContentTranslation, which looks like an exaggeration [11:39:18] to me [11:39:34] what do you think about the short snippet I posted above? [11:39:40] repoApi = wikibase.client.getMwApiForRepo(); new wikibase.PageConnector( repoApi, 'cawiki', 'Xarxa transeuropea de transport', 'enwiki', 'Trans-European Transport Networks' ); pc.linkPages(); [11:40:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 2015-05-28T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214317 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [11:40:27] ca:Xarxa transeuropea de transport and en:Trans-European Transport Networks are two articles in the real Wikipedia that must be connected [11:40:35] aharoni: seems okay, but then i am not very familiar with that code [11:40:43] hoo might know [11:40:57] is he expected around here any time soon?.. [11:41:01] maybe [11:41:11] (03PS19) 10Dominic.sauer: WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 [11:41:13] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [11:41:21] although with the hackathon, some people are taking time off [11:41:30] aude: ok, last thing (probably ;) ) : which modules are supposed to be loaded in order for that to work? [11:42:38] aharoni: probably some of https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/blob/master/client/resources/Resources.php#L64 [11:42:43] probably not all [11:43:23] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: "Correct repo is: mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214132 (owner: 10Amire80) [11:43:27] could be that PageConnector has wrong dependencies int he wrong place [11:48:56] aude: OK, I updated https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/214119/ with PageConnector, although I don't expect it work as it is now. [11:54:47] 10Wikidata, 6Project-Creators: Create a "Wikidata-Gadgets" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100512#1317319 (10Aklapper) As I wrote in T85433, I'm generally opposed to tracking Gadget issues in Phabricator as long as there is no central codebase for gadgets (which is covered in T1238). If I misunder... [11:56:04] 10Wikidata, 6Project-Creators: Create a "Wikidata-Gadgets" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100512#1317322 (10Lydia_Pintscher) This would be for gadgets on Wikidata only. [12:01:36] Tobi_WMDE_SW - are you familiar with PageConnector, by any chance? [12:03:20] aude: I propose to update the description of Special:EntityData to list the supported data formats explicitly, removing the ambiguity introduced by ', and so on' [12:03:57] I found the list of supported formats here: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/blob/master/repo/config/Wikibase.default.php#L49 [12:06:01] aharoni: sorry, no I'm not. But hoo should [12:06:16] and the text displayed in English comes from here: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/blob/master/repo/i18n/en.json#L271 [12:12:52] Tobi_WMDE_SW: thanks [12:13:41] Lydia_WMDE: any idea when will hoo be around? I need help with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/214119/ and it's probably something very simple. [12:14:10] (03PS20) 10Dominic.sauer: WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 [12:14:12] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [12:20:56] 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration-Config: add HHVM versions of Jenkins jobs for Wikibase extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93871#1317346 (10hashar) 5Open>3Resolved a:3hashar This has been fixed a few weeks ago. [12:33:53] hello [12:38:03] (03PS21) 10Dominic.sauer: WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 [12:38:05] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [12:44:32] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 5ContentTranslation-Release5, 3LE-Sprint-87, 5Patch-For-Review: Link translated articles with other languages through Wikidata automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87410#1317381 (10Amire80) OK, so in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21411... [12:46:54] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Remove unused import [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/213597 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [12:47:05] (03PS1) 10Dominic.sauer: Add changes for showing icon and messages in UI on items page. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214329 [12:50:06] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove unused import [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/213597 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [12:58:00] * nikki would be so much happier if someone would fix https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98471 :( [12:58:46] (03PS22) 10Dominic.sauer: WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 [12:59:33] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP add js script for showing icons on claims [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207764 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [13:03:12] (03PS2) 10Dominic.sauer: Add changes for showing icon and messages in UI on items page. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214329 [13:06:58] Someone her woho speaks german? [13:13:33] MGChecker: ja, aber nicht fließend, warum? [13:14:25] Because I don't know to ask a specific question about Wikidata in english [13:14:30] aharoni: sorry no. but hopefully later today [13:14:42] Wie kann man dem Qualifikator "von" einen Wert geben, zu dem kein Objekt (da kein artikel) existiert? [13:14:53] Lydia_WMDE: thanks [13:18:12] nikki: ping [13:19:16] ich glaube, man muss zuerst ein neues objekt dafür erstellen [13:21:33] 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration-Config: Run composer install for WikibaseJavaScriptApi jenkins jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100654#1317486 (10aude) 3NEW [13:22:34] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "created https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100654 regarding the jenkins failure, to have jenkins install dependencies." [extensions/WikibaseJavaScriptApi] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/211111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99231) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:23:37] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update to data-values/javascript 0.7.0 [extensions/WikibaseJavaScriptApi] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/211111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99231) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:55:40] 10Wikidata, 6Multimedia, 10Structured-Multimedia-Data: Categories are metadata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87686#1317601 (10Mattflaschen) [13:56:55] [13WikibaseDataModelJavaScript] 15filbertkm 04force-pushed 061.1.0 from 14439c654 to 14a19c53d: 02http://git.io/vT3e5 [13:56:55] 13WikibaseDataModelJavaScript/061.1.0 14a19c53d 15aude: Update RELEASE NOTES to 1.0.2... [14:09:11] 10Wikidata: Deploy Wikibase usage tracking to remaining s7 wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100659#1317624 (10aude) 3NEW a:3aude [14:09:36] Lydia_WMDE: ^ [14:09:44] for next week :) [14:12:02] Tobi_WMDE_SW: Are you familiar with wikibase.api.RepoApi ? [14:13:15] I am try to decypher how PageConnector works. When PageConnector is initialized, it needs to get a RepoApi argument. What's the right way to create the RepoApi object? [14:13:30] 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: Properly update complex statements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95196#1317635 (10Daniel_Mietchen) [14:13:40] 10Wikidata, 6Search-and-Discovery, 10Wikidata-Query-Service, 5Patch-For-Review: Open questions for Blazegraph data model research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92308#1317637 (10Daniel_Mietchen) [14:16:01] aharoni: i might have time later to look [14:16:12] sorry.... not now :( [14:26:19] aude: I think that I know how to do it! [14:27:09] aude: it's probably this: [14:27:10] repoApi = new wb.api.RepoApi( wikibase.client.getMwApiForRepo() ); [14:35:05] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 5ContentTranslation-Release5, 3LE-Sprint-87, 5Patch-For-Review: Link translated articles with other languages through Wikidata automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87410#1317662 (10Amire80) ... And I think that I managed to get it to wo... [16:57:28] MGChecker: was nikki sagt. erst ein neues objekt erstellen [16:57:45] Aber wenn das nicht enzyklopädich relvant wäre? [16:57:59] [16:58:22] MGChecker: in wikidata sind die relevanzkriterien anders [16:58:48] MGChecker: insbesondere, wenn es, wie fuer diesen Fall, notwendig ist, ist das Objekt relevant [16:59:02] Ich hab mal gelesen, dass ein Item nur relvant ist, wenn es mindestens mit einem Artikel/Wörterbucheintrag/... verknüpft ist [16:59:06] Okay [16:59:12] nein das ist nicht richtig [16:59:47] MGChecker: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability/de [17:00:00] thanks [17:00:36] Kriterium 3, wobei ich die Englische Seite etwas klarer finde, um ehrlich zu sein [17:00:51] ist aber auch schwierig zu uebersetzen :P [17:01:57] 10Wikidata, 6Release-Engineering, 10Wikidata-Page-Banner: Setup Jenkins - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100495#1318110 (10greg) I think I'm missing a lot of context here. What's the goal/purpose of this task? What's needed? We already have those running on our Jenkins. [17:06:02] Ist es sinnvoll, P70 (liegt in Gebiet oder Gewässer) den Wert eines Fan-Universums zuzuweisen, [17:06:35] du meinst, eine fiktive welt? [17:07:07] zB https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q213586 [17:08:36] jo [17:18:07] [17:24:47] aude: could you review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/212324/ ? [17:25:24] aude: just make sure the new version is ok for Wikidata stuffs. [17:26:32] Why Wikidata hasn´t a common database licence instead of CC0 ? [17:28:06] If I have a list of 721 members of a group with 721 , should I add all of them to an item? [17:33:25] Com eon, people, I think you have some knopwledge about Wikidata ;) [17:34:19] 10Wikidata, 10Wikimedia-Language-setup, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 5Patch-For-Review: Create Wikipedia Konkani - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1318212 (10Raymond) @Krenair: Translations for core exported from translatewiki.net. Language added with I384b3a14b232b346096066d678d84f7742b6d4c2 [17:34:21] I don't know the first one and the second question... What are you talking about? [17:37:28] I mean: If I have an item has part 721 other items, should I add them all to the item with P527 (has part) [17:37:55] Ehm, I think so. [17:38:41] What kind of items are you talking about. [17:40:08] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 5ContentTranslation-Release5, 3LE-Sprint-87, 5Patch-For-Review: Link translated articles with other languages through Wikidata automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87410#1318231 (10Amire80) A bit of background: I cheated while developin... [17:43:29] Wikidata items?= [17:45:38] Yep, what 721 other items? [17:46:31] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 5ContentTranslation-Release5, 3LE-Sprint-87, 5Patch-For-Review: Link translated articles with other languages through Wikidata automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87410#1318249 (10Amire80) ... And this is the Wikidata edit that was don... [17:56:03] that ones: [17:56:05] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon [17:57:21] All Pokémon should be tagged with P31 > Q3966183 [17:59:58] I don't know what you want with P361 (part of) [18:37:53] DanielK_WMDE hey, hab leider deine Jacke nicht bekommen :/ [18:40:56] sjoerddebruin: I want to tag the list of Pokémon, the Pokédex, with P361 > 720 Pokémon [18:45:37] MGChecker: I think P1080 > Q17562848 is better. [18:46:05] But a list shouldn't contain such claims. [18:49:32] But I want to sy tht it contains all 720. I could say P361 > Q864 [19:24:14] hello [19:24:31] Hello. I have some questions about the notability guidelines for Wikidata regarding the Wikimedia commons link. [19:25:20] Is having media uploaded to Wikimedia commons enough in itself to determine notability? [19:25:44] Or am I in the right spot? Should I ask this somewhere else? [19:27:20] !admin Does this chat function as a help desk for WikiData? [19:27:21] Se ha avisado a los bibliotecarios registrados para atender usuarios. Por favor, espera hasta ser atendido. [19:30:05] Hi MrMattMatt. [19:30:26] Would you have an item example to see the notabiltity ? [19:31:16] MrMattMatt: yes [19:32:22] I haven't uploaded anything to the Commons. I wanted to do the research before I did. [19:34:49] But you're saying the item would have to meet some notability standards. It's not valid for WikiData by simply being uploaded in the Commons? [19:40:58] 10Wikidata, 3Roadmap, 7notice: Deploy Wikibase usage tracking to remaining s7 wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100659#1318599 (10aude) [19:43:16] MrMattMatt: what sort of thing are you hoping to add? [19:43:25] I would expect that just uploading something to commons wouldn't be enough to make something notable, no... if it were, I could take a picture of one of my plants and upload it and then it would be notable enough for wikidata, which would be silly :) [19:44:49] Haha. Exactly. Well, my thoughts surround adding Milani Plumbing. So, I'm thinking of photos of the founder, photos of the building, and things like that. How could I help to have those things considered notable, if I can at all? [19:56:51] hm, I'm not sure :/ I don't have much experience with adding things like that. maybe someone else has some advice though [19:58:14] Okie doke. I'll do some more research and see if I can come up with something. I do appreciate your help though :). [20:12:34] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 3Roadmap, 7Tracking, 7notice: Track Wikidata entity usage on client pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49288#1318662 (10aude) [20:12:36] 10Wikidata, 3Roadmap, 7notice: Enable arbitrary access on Wikivoyage projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98827#1318663 (10aude) [20:12:38] 10Wikidata, 3Roadmap, 7notice: Deploy usage tracking to Wikivoyage projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98248#1318659 (10aude) 5Open>3Resolved a:3aude [20:12:45] 10Wikidata, 3Roadmap, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05, 7notice: Deploy usage tracking to Wikivoyage projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98248#1263001 (10aude) [20:51:43] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Fix for older php version. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/213824 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag) [20:53:24] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] "Needs rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202715 (owner: 10Hoo man) [20:53:28] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Rename SiteLinkLookup::getEntityIdForSiteLink to getItemIdForSiteLink [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202715 (owner: 10Hoo man) [20:53:55] (03PS7) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Make label/description uniqueness checks case insensitive for properties [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97129) (owner: 10Hoo man) [20:55:09] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "The linked phabricator issue has been closed. Daniel: still -2?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97129) (owner: 10Hoo man) [20:55:45] (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Split mock creation in UnDeserializableValueFormatterTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/204478 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [20:56:07] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Split mock creation in UnDeserializableValueFormatterTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/204478 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [20:59:48] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Split mock creation in UnDeserializableValueFormatterTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/204478 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [21:00:40] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: wbgetclaims api module should provide resolving of redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97928#1255291 (10JanZerebecki) This task is about resolving entity references in the result not about the working on redirected ids. I filed T100703 for that. [21:01:22] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: make wbgetclaims work on redirected entity ids - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100703#1318797 (10JanZerebecki) [21:04:21] (03PS6) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Display badges on the other project sidebar [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/213340 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73887) (owner: 10Tpt) [21:07:54] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: "Needs manual rebase. Would +2." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/211705 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [21:10:37] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 04-1] Add missing newlines between "namespace" and "use" blocks [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/211705 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [21:11:54] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 04-1] "Needs manual rebase. Would +2." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/211679 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [21:13:40] 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration-Config: Enable PHP_CodeSniffer for Wikibase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86538#1318850 (10JanZerebecki) [21:14:00] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: "It would be nice to have a phpcs job in place, so it is easy to switch it on when it passes. See T86538 ." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/210077 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [21:14:16] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Display badges on the other project sidebar (035 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/213340 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73887) (owner: 10Tpt) [21:15:31] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: usePropertyInfoTable is not a repo but a lib setting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212787 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [21:20:44] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Lib should not have settings. Repo and Client can be connected to each other and work with the same setting, or they can both be connected" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212787 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [21:22:02] (03PS1) 10Bene: Define resource loader modules explicitely [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214490 [21:24:41] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Define resource loader modules explicitely [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214490 (owner: 10Bene) [21:26:43] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] Remove an unnecessary line break from a message [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214208 (owner: 10Amire80) [21:38:06] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 6Mobile-Apps: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566#1318935 (10kaldari) [21:43:59] Change on 12www.mediawiki.org a page Extension:Wikibase Client was modified, changed by Matěj Grabovský link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=1661000 edit summary: [+0] lowercase phabricator tag [21:47:51] Is anyone else having any problems editing on the site? [21:49:51] When I load a new page, the following happens: everything is expanded (references, etc.) without the hide buttons; there's no add button at the bottom to add new statements; the edit button at the top goes to Special:SetLabelDescriptionAliases rather than opening up an edit pane on the same page like normal (for all of my languages); and there's a spinning wheel for a few seconds near that same edit button. [21:50:53] kibble: Can you open your browser's error console and tell us what you see? [21:52:40] hoo, http://pastebin.com/ihMC9vd4 [21:53:43] It started a few hours ago and then I went afk. I checked MediaWiki recent changes and don't see any local changes, so I'm assuming something changed in the Wikibase code. [21:54:17] Wikidata deploys are on Tuesday. [21:55:45] Uh, that looks weird [21:56:41] Oh, not really surprising [21:58:54] hoo, thanks for looking into it. I have to go, but I'll check the logs when I get back. [22:02:52] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Fix dependencies of wikibase.view.__namespace [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214494 [22:02:58] site js is broken? [22:03:27] I can reproduce it, but it could b [22:03:28] e [22:03:31] * can't [22:03:58] the edit buttons seem to have all disappeared, and I'm getting a JS error on every mainspace page [22:04:13] "wikibase is not defined" [22:04:22] crap [22:05:56] * nikki gets the "wikibase is not defined" error in the console too [22:06:02] ok, not good [22:06:14] Can you paste it for me, so that I can verify it's the same module [22:06:16] ? [22:06:24] I still can't reproduce it [22:06:26] am trying [22:06:48] I also don't have problems. [22:08:00] "Exception in module-execute in module wikibase.view.__namespace" [22:08:23] What item are you viewing? [22:08:43] any item. I clicked random page a bunch of times, the same error in all of them [22:09:30] Browser? [22:09:37] Chrome [22:09:48] mh [22:09:57] I can finish up the fix and deploy it [22:10:02] it's harmless, so it can't get worse [22:10:26] yeah, mine says "Exception in module-execute in module wikibase.view.__namespace: ReferenceError: wikibase is not defined" logged in in chromium (some old version) [22:10:35] seems ok in the other browsers I have [22:10:46] Seems okay in Chrome dev channel. [22:11:05] aude: DanielK_WMDE: jzerebecki: Tobi_WMDE_SW: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214494 trivial, needs +2 [22:11:10] For backport [22:13:45] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Remove unused messages from the "wikibase" module dependencies [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214497 [22:13:55] (that's an unrelated clean up, not urgent) [22:18:29] nikki: Do you have any specific content filtering/ javascript blocking addons installed or any such thing? [22:18:52] only ghostery [22:19:09] That shouldn't be a problem [22:19:36] it seems to work in a private tab, so maybe it's something I have enabled in my prefs [22:21:24] 10Wikidata, 6Search-and-Discovery, 10Wikidata-Query-Service, 5Patch-For-Review: Redirect RDF data does not have revision IDs/timestamps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100463#1319059 (10Smalyshev) Note that the patch above is the temp fix for the wdqs updater tool, the real fix still needed in PHP. [22:21:36] Might be a faulty gadget [22:22:57] * hoo will poke at some gadgets [22:27:55] No luck, yet... [22:28:53] Could you screenshot your used gadgets? [22:30:04] I tried disabling all my gadgets individually. still broken. [22:30:14] Uh [22:30:23] Let me check your global JS. [22:30:27] YairRand: Also broken in private mode? [22:30:52] No global JS... [22:31:01] I just tried disabling all gadgets and commenting out the stuff in my common.js too, didn't help either :/ [22:31:08] Ok, not good [22:31:51] (03CR) 10Lucie Kaffee: [C: 032] Fix dependencies of wikibase.view.__namespace [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214494 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:32:11] hoo: yes, also broken in incognito. [22:33:19] Ok, will backport the change then [22:33:33] would be nice if someone who can reproduce could stay around [22:33:51] * sjoerddebruin not, so hits the bed [22:34:28] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Fix dependencies of wikibase.view.__namespace [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.26wmf6) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214503 [22:34:36] hm, I seem to be getting inconsistent results on incognito now, sometimes working. [22:35:19] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix dependencies of wikibase.view.__namespace [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214494 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:36:17] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 6Mobile-Apps: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566#1319078 (10kaldari) Of the options presented by Filceolaire, #2 (for short term) and #3 (for long term) seem the best. @Lydia_Pintscher, do you think sup... [22:36:18] what's broken? [22:36:26] aude: http://pastebin.com/ihMC9vd4 [22:36:59] hm, and it did work once in a private tab for me, but now it's doing the same thing as the non-private ones [22:39:06] cannot reproduce [22:39:06] aude: I'd say to deploy the fix as it's dead simple and safe to do [22:39:22] * aude wonders why it's an issue now [22:39:26] Even if it's not the root cause (it might only be a symptom of something else falling apart) [22:39:28] don't see harm int he change [22:40:00] kri*nkle reported some issues on nlwiki in ops channel [22:40:09] might be completely unrelated though [22:41:10] nikki: YairRand when did the problem first occur? [22:41:11] aude: Mh, could be that [22:41:24] we also re-deployed wmf7 a few hours ago [22:41:32] but not change in wikibase afaik [22:41:35] no* [22:41:46] Yeah, as I pulled wmf7 to ahve the wmf6 branch [22:41:52] it wasn't happening earlier today when I last did some editing about 12 hours ago [22:41:58] Unless that got reverted [22:42:02] nikki: ok [22:42:58] audo: not sure exactly when it started, but it was working less than a five hours ago. [22:43:32] YairRand: ok [22:43:51] aude: think I go with re-syncing wmf7 and touching some JS [22:43:57] To test what Krinkle suspects [22:44:43] hoo: sounds worth a try [22:48:46] YairRand: nikki: Can you two re-open the private browsing sessions and test again? [22:49:14] hoo: done, still broken. [22:49:36] it worked ok the first time, broken when I refreshed [22:49:37] Ok, guess we need to wait a few minutes to make sure RL cache isn't getting in our way [22:49:45] Up to 5 [22:50:10] If it's still borken then, I'll try to deploy the fix hoping that's not just fixing a symptom [22:52:58] problem seems to have disappeared :) [22:53:09] YAY! [22:53:13] nikki: Can you test as well [22:54:41] yep, seems to be ok in all my chromes/chromiums now :D [22:54:49] \o/ [22:55:00] Thank you for staying around! [22:55:05] you're welcome :) [22:55:08] excellent. thank you very much. [22:55:10] now I'm going to bed though [22:55:11] night :) [22:55:29] (03Abandoned) 10Hoo man: Fix dependencies of wikibase.view.__namespace [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.26wmf6) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214503 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:56:21] :) [22:56:59] good night, nikki [23:06:38] aude: Did you look into the export/import sites maintenance scripts? [23:07:48] I mean the problem I encountered while trying to update bhwiki's lang code [23:07:55] If not I'll just file bugs [23:10:13] hoo: no [23:10:20] hoo, looks to be working for me now too. Thank you! [23:10:27] :) [23:10:35] kibble: Gosh, not seen you on IRC for a while… :-) [23:11:26] James_F, yeah, I come on very infrequently. ;-) Honestly, I also edit infrequently too! Wikidata's becoming one of my side projects. [23:11:38] kibble: Wikidata's awesomely like crack, it's true. ;-) [23:11:52] aude: Ok, will file bugs then so that stuff wont get lost [23:12:09] ywan [23:12:11] damn [23:12:15] *yawn [23:12:28] James_F, haha, indeed. And The Game doesn't help either. I tell myself Iḿ going to stop and then find myself doing a few more! [23:12:33] hoo: thanks [23:12:34] * James_F grins. [23:29:46] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 6Mobile-Apps: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566#1319198 (10Yair_rand) I don't know that this is the right way of thinking about these. The little bits of descriptions seem like slightly-more-complicate...