[00:13:55] 10Wikidata, 10Wikimedia-Language-setup, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 6operations, 5Patch-For-Review: Create Wikipedia Konkani - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1273938 (10Dzahn) I think the ops part in this was only adding it to DNS which is done and the mwconfig part is more -releng., or? [00:17:51] 10Wikidata, 10Wikimedia-Language-setup, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 6operations, 5Patch-For-Review: Create Wikipedia Konkani - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1273955 (10Krenair) I was planning to just do the deployment side (config, maintenance script, etc.) once the language is actually importe... [00:19:49] 10Wikidata, 10Wikimedia-Language-setup, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 5Patch-For-Review: Create Wikipedia Konkani - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1273964 (10Dzahn) [00:21:36] 10Wikidata, 10Wikimedia-Language-setup, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 5Patch-For-Review: Create Wikipedia Konkani - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1273973 (10Mjbmr) There are a lot of other languages in MediaWiki that have less translations than Konkani language. [00:29:42] 10Wikidata, 10Wikimedia-Language-setup, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 5Patch-For-Review: Create Wikipedia Konkani - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1274003 (10Krenair) [*] DNS - done by ops [*] Apache config - nothing to do for this particular task, since it's just a simple language addition [*] MW c... [06:03:50] (03PS5) 10Sumit: WikidataPageBanner: PAGEBANNER magic word added [extensions/WikidataPageBanner] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209432 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97455) [09:30:41] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: structured wikidata compare api - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98666#1274225 (10Addshore) 3NEW [09:30:48] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Structured wikidata compare api - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98666#1274232 (10Addshore) [09:36:04] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: AbuseFilter doesn't log removal of redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98372#1274235 (10Addshore) That is probably true in core, I think Wikidata has a slightly different case. The ONLY way th... [09:36:37] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Reference section remains the same size when collapsed (after expanding) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98318#1274236 (10Addshore) [10:00:14] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 2015-05-09T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209858 [10:17:42] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Create a special page item sandbox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98667#1274240 (10Bene) 3NEW [10:22:40] (03PS6) 10Bene: [DNM] Use ByPropertyIdMap in ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209451 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98375) [10:24:58] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [DNM] Use ByPropertyIdMap in ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209451 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98375) (owner: 10Bene) [10:44:13] 10Wikidata, 6Wikisource: Wikidata badges for Wikisource for validation status - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97014#1274250 (10Bugreporter) [10:44:15] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata.org, 7Need-volunteer, 7Tracking: Wikibase badges (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T42810#1274249 (10Bugreporter) [10:45:38] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Tell in sitelink whether target is the "preferred" language for the topic/place of the article - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70067#1274258 (10Bugreporter) [10:45:45] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata.org, 7Need-volunteer, 7Tracking: Wikibase badges (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T42810#1274252 (10Bugreporter) 5Resolved>3Open This bug should be opened as a tracking bug as long as there're open bugs blocks it. Some of the... [10:48:57] (03PS6) 10Bene: Add heading before sitelinks section [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203874 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95889) [10:49:33] (03PS11) 10Bene: Put the label into the .firstHeading element [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203681 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93534) [10:52:44] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add heading before sitelinks section [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203874 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95889) (owner: 10Bene) [10:52:47] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Put the label into the .firstHeading element [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203681 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93534) (owner: 10Bene) [11:01:36] Lydia_WMDE: Did you ever consider deploying hovercards on Wikidata? [11:08:53] multichill: it is there. just enable the beta feature [11:10:22] Ah, right, didn't notice that one before. Implementation seems to be quite limited :-( [11:14:42] Feel free to expand. :) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-PopupsFix.js [11:15:13] i'd caution against overloading the popup [11:15:24] i've already seen a few requests to put in much more info [11:15:29] and that's imho not good [11:15:44] let's keep it lean [11:22:19] For a person a bit more information would make it much more useful. Think of gender, data of birth/death, occupation [11:22:39] But it shouldn't become a reasonator replacement ;-) [11:24:57] (03PS1) 10Bene: Dont require entityId to be set in labelview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209864 [11:27:38] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Dont require entityId to be set in labelview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209864 (owner: 10Bene) [11:29:33] (03PS2) 10Bene: Dont require entityId to be set in labelview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209864 [11:32:53] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Dont require entityId to be set in labelview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209864 (owner: 10Bene) [11:44:32] sjoerddebruin: I'll just stick to adding more paintings for now ;-) [11:49:40] Lydia_WMDE: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18688312 the image url here. Is that constructed in the Wikibase software or in a gadget? It's broken because of the "?" in the filename [12:33:35] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-extensions-AbuseFilter: AbuseFilter on Wikidata fails on blocking IPs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98669#1274278 (10matej_suchanek) 3NEW [13:53:55] (03PS7) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [DNM] Use ByPropertyIdMap in ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209451 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98375) (owner: 10Bene) [13:55:29] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [DNM] Use ByPropertyIdMap in ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209451 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98375) (owner: 10Bene) [14:11:29] 10Wikidata, 6Mobile-Web, 10Vector, 5Patch-For-Review: setHTMLTitle to empty string or false should prevent rendering of H1 on page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97891#1274340 (10Florian) a:3Florian [14:12:00] 10Wikidata, 6Mobile-Web, 10Vector, 5Patch-For-Review: setHTMLTitle to empty string or false should prevent rendering of H1 on page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97891#1254408 (10Florian) Doing it for Vector and MonoBook, Minerva already checks, if a title is set before creating the h1 element. [15:09:19] 10Wikidata, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 7Tracking: Wikis waiting for creation (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18976#1274400 (10Glaisher) [15:33:29] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 2015-05-09T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209858 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [15:36:56] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 2015-05-09T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209858 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [15:37:05] JeroenDeDauw: thanks for fixing the typo ;) [15:44:39] yw [15:49:10] benestar: I think I'd be good if you created a dedicated issue about removing this API module parameter [15:49:48] That just has "this thing seems unused, and if we drop it, we get rid of some technical debt" [15:50:00] Without putting in technical details [17:12:36] Hoi is someone around with expertise on demerging an item ? [17:19:51] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata.org, 7Tracking: Wikibase badges (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T42810#1274540 (10Lydia_Pintscher) a:5Lydia_Pintscher>3None [17:38:43] Do I need to delete all information on an entity before creating a redirect? [17:39:10] (the information is all already on the entity it should be redirected to) [17:41:10] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:RedirectEntity is still telling me that the entity is not empty [17:43:49] there's a gadget you can enable from the preferences which adds a merge option in a menu near the top right [17:44:02] which is what I use, which seems to handle non-empty items fine [17:45:52] nikki, oh, I was just avoiding using the merge tool because there's no data that actually needs to be brought across [17:46:05] just a stale wikipedia link that's now redirected [17:47:02] ah... I have no idea about the pros and cons of the different methods, I just use the one which is easiest for me all the time :) [17:48:49] yeah, that worked fine, I'll just always use that tool in future :) [17:49:03] was just curious what needed to be done to make an entity "empty" [17:50:21] I suspect the sitelinks would have to be removed [17:50:27] and any statements [17:54:35] What would you put as the descriptions for a person entity that works in the financial services industry? [17:54:42] "worker in the financial services industry"? [17:54:46] "financial services industry expert"? [17:54:52] I would not [17:55:13] I would add statements so that the descriptions can be automatically generated in any languages [17:55:21] they are a waste of effort [17:55:33] oh! [17:55:40] that's not what johtso was asking though... [17:56:07] so if I create it without a description, and then add the relevant data, the disambiguation will be generated automatically? [17:56:19] just use Reasonator and yes [17:56:22] the second one sounds more natural to me, although "expert" is a bit subjective, so I dunno [17:57:15] it is why I refuse to add descriptions and only remove them when they are wrong [17:57:18] they often are [17:57:30] wrong and incomplete [17:58:37] descriptions aren't automatically generated on the main site though, and having no description makes it impossible to know which of the results is the one you want [17:58:46] and makes it more likely that someone will pick the wrong thing [18:00:02] not when you use a tool like Reasonator [18:00:12] Wikidata is deficient in several ways [18:00:23] I can't figure out how to edit statements on reasonator [18:01:21] nikki what Reasonator does is show you information [18:01:29] that's hardly a solution then [18:01:47] try Nobel prize [18:01:56] wikidata does NOT show you who won them [18:02:09] or how they are related (the different prizes) [18:02:13] Reasonator does [18:02:28] you're not making any sense at all. [18:02:35] Wikidata gives you a jumble of unsorted garbage [18:02:56] https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?find=nobel+prize [18:03:04] searching for Nobel prize [18:03:18] I'm not trying to search for nobel prize [18:03:23] I'm trying to add a statement [18:03:23] https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?&q=7191 Nobel Prize [18:03:38] right and a tool is to be understood ? [18:04:07] or you just plod on [18:05:16] I prefer not to add statements one at a time [18:12:00] Is it bad practice to use someone's job description as the entity description? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4897452 [18:12:17] seems like it fall foul of the "don't use things that will get out of date" rule [18:13:01] although maybe you could say that if it is the most notable thing about the person, it's similar to the "employer" property, that doesn't have to be current [18:36:48] JohnLewis are you around ? [18:36:56] GerardM-: yeah [18:37:18] I found a bot that changed relition re catholicism [18:37:25] they are wrong and need to be reverted [18:37:32] link? [18:37:36] I can do that with a bot flag [18:37:43] see the chat room [18:37:51] try pope francis [18:37:59] I just changed it to correct it [18:38:03] bot flag? you need a bureaucrat for flooder flag :/ [18:38:30] he is currently the only pope who is a roman catholic [18:38:41] I do not follow who is what [18:38:55] it would be likely that you can [18:39:24] Administrators can not and I never understood the rationale behind it either [19:05:03] aude: You in? I see occasional database errors, can you see those too in the log? [19:08:27] request exceeded memory limit, multichill? [19:14:47] Krenair: I just see a database error in Pywikibot. What do you see in the log? [19:15:26] a few of these: May 9 18:59:05 mw1196: #012Fatal error: request has exceeded memory limit in /srv/mediawiki/php-1.26wmf4/includes/db/DatabaseMysqli.php on line 183 [19:15:38] do you get a hash in the error? [19:16:57] I don't have a full stack trace [19:17:12] Krenair: Was it on https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q19883689&redirect=no ? [19:17:29] That's the one my bot stopped at [19:17:29] I don't know [19:17:35] I don't get a URL [19:17:54] hmm [19:21:04] Krenair: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BotMultichill <- seems to be fairly stable.... [19:21:41] Still about 1700 to do [19:38:33] hello! I'm new bot editor in wikidata [19:39:04] Would somebody know how to change claim value by pywikibot [19:39:05] ? [19:39:34] I'm struggling that for a day [19:40:36] I know how to create claim by pywikibot, and I know how to remove claim by pywikibot [19:41:10] But I can not figure out the way how to change claim value :( [19:43:12] i'm waiting for a while [19:43:51] If anyone knows something, give me a hint! [19:45:53] wasabot: I'm pretty sure you can get the claim, set a new target and than submit it [19:46:48] hi! multichill. [19:47:37] to me, pywikibot core seems not having such function [19:49:55] functions which I know are...addClaim(), removeClaim(), addQualifier() and addSources() [19:50:17] You can get a claim and use changeTarget() [19:50:46] That uses repo.changeClaimTarget to do it's work [19:51:00] wow changeTarget()!? I didn't know that [19:51:09] I'll try that! [19:51:57] So get the item. Do a get.().get('claims') for the claim dict. Look for the claim you want to change and use that function [19:52:55] Oh thank you very much. I'll try that! [20:17:07] changeTarget() function works well. Thank you multichill for teaching that! [20:17:13] :) [20:18:03] You're welcome wasabot. What documentation are you using to figure out what functions to use? Documentation is pretty crappy and spread out at the moment so I just look at the source code :S [20:18:40] We're working on getting it on https://doc.wikimedia.org/ , but that doesn't seem to go very fast I'm afraid [20:19:42] mainly I'm using https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Creating_a_bot#Pywikibot [20:20:07] and additionaly I see other user's code [20:20:41] my current code is this https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Wasabot/Code3 [20:22:43] that wesite seems informative. thanks! I bookmarked it. [23:21:12] :/