[01:19:16] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Wikimedia-Language-setup, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 6operations, 5Patch-For-Review: Create Wikipedia Konkani - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1267716 (10Ijon) I have encourage the community to continue localization of messages to reach at least the threshold of 18% of MW core.  I...
[03:33:36] <vicks>	 hello
[03:34:36] <vicks>	 hii
[03:34:52] <vicks>	 anybody here?
[04:08:54] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: test.wikidata.org does not allow to create redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98434#1267875 (10Smalyshev) 3NEW
[04:15:15] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Search-Team, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: have API that shows which entities changed since a specific change instead of time - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85103#1267886 (10Smalyshev) a:5JanZerebecki>3Smalyshev
[05:13:29] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: Make size of Special:ListProperties limited - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98437#1267912 (10Bugreporter) 3NEW
[05:38:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Sumit: WikidataPageBanner: PAGEBANNER magic word added [extensions/WikidataPageBanner] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209432 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97455) 
[05:45:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Sumit: "Few doubts, which I've mentioned in the comments :)" (032 comments) [extensions/WikidataPageBanner] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209432 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97455) (owner: 10Sumit)
[06:25:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Sumit: WikidataPageBanner: PAGEBANNER magic word added [extensions/WikidataPageBanner] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209432 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97455) 
[06:28:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Sumit: WikidataPageBanner: PAGEBANNER magic word added (032 comments) [extensions/WikidataPageBanner] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209432 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97455) (owner: 10Sumit)
[06:55:04] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: test.wikidata.org does not allow to create redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98434#1267991 (10hoo) 5Open>3Invalid a:3hoo One can create redirects via the API or via http://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:RedirectEntity. No need for that gadget.
[07:25:31] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: test.wikidata.org does not allow to create redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98434#1268007 (10Smalyshev) Ah, cool, thanks! It'd be nice then to update the documentation at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Merge since it's the only way described there.
[07:53:33] <nikki>	 hm... why would special:unconnectedpages show pages which have been linked to wikidata for months? "Nyuu Ziilan dola" is still showing on https://pih.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UnconnectedPages even though the sitelink's been in wikidata since january
[08:14:35] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Datasets-General-or-Unknown, 7Tracking: improve Wikidata dumps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88991#1268081 (10daniel)
[08:14:36] <wikibugs>	 10Wikibase-DataModel-Serialization, 10Wikidata: Empty JSON maps serialized as empty lists in XML dumps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91117#1268082 (10daniel)
[08:14:39] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Datasets-General-or-Unknown, 6operations, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07, and 2 others: Wikidata dumps contain old-style serialization. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74348#1268079 (10daniel) 5Open>3Invalid The grep run did not turn up any old style serialization in the dump, so I'm cl...
[08:32:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jonaskeutel: changed job so it uses service to write log and prepare message [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209436 
[08:39:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: "Some tips and comments" (036 comments) [extensions/WikidataPageBanner] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209432 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97455) (owner: 10Sumit)
[08:46:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Adopted travis configuration. [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209442 
[08:47:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 031] Adopted travis configuration. [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209442 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[08:47:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Adopted travis configuration. [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209442 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[08:49:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Add wikidataquality-checkresult-status-references-stated to i18n [extensions/WikidataQuality] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209223 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer)
[08:53:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Adopted travis configuration. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209444 
[08:53:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Adopted travis configuration. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209444 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[09:25:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Adopted travis configuration. [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209446 
[09:25:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Adopted travis configuration. [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209446 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[09:27:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Adopted travis configuration. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209447 
[09:27:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Adopted travis configuration. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209447 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[09:30:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Adopted travis configuration. [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209448 
[09:30:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Adopted travis configuration. [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209448 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[09:35:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Added WikibaseQuality repository explicitly in composer.json as long our extensions are not registered on packagist. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209450 
[09:35:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Added WikibaseQuality repository explicitly in composer.json as long our extensions are not registered on packagist. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209450 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[09:45:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bene: [DNM] Use ByPropertyIdMap in ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209451 
[09:45:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: [V: 04-1] [DNM] Use ByPropertyIdMap in ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209451 (owner: 10Bene)
[09:47:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [DNM] Use ByPropertyIdMap in ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209451 (owner: 10Bene)
[09:48:55] <JanAinali_WMSE>	 Sitenotices for Wikidata, are they requested in Project chat, on MediaWiki talk:Sitenotice or on Wikidata:Administrators noticeboard?
[09:51:12] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar 04force-pushed 06bypropertyidmap from 14dc54e16 to 14f399f9d: 02http://git.io/vJF76
[09:51:12] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06bypropertyidmap 14f399f9d 15Bene: Create ByPropertyIdMap
[09:52:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Make coveralls work on travis again (hopefully). [extensions/WikidataQuality] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209453 
[09:52:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 031] Make coveralls work on travis again (hopefully). [extensions/WikidataQuality] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209453 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[09:53:10] <hoo>	 JanAinali_WMSE: I doubt there's a process yet... going for the AN is probably a sensible thing to do
[09:53:28] <GrzegorzB>	 ktoś online? mam sprawę :)
[09:53:30] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar 04force-pushed 06bypropertyidmap from 14f399f9d to 14e01251e: 02http://git.io/vJF76
[09:53:30] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06bypropertyidmap 14e01251e 15Bene: Create ByPropertyIdMap
[09:53:44] <JanAinali_WMSE>	 hoo: Thanks, I'll try that
[09:54:08] <GrzegorzB>	 anyone onlne? English/Polish ?
[09:54:30] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar 04force-pushed 06bypropertyidmap from 14e01251e to 145c99a97: 02http://git.io/vJF76
[09:54:30] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06bypropertyidmap 145c99a97 15Bene: Create ByPropertyIdMap
[09:55:05] <GrzegorzB>	 anyone??? ktokolwiek??
[09:55:18] <hoo>	 GrzegorzB: Just ask your question
[09:55:25] <hoo>	 (assuming you have one)
[09:55:47] <GrzegorzB>	 There are two pairs of elements that have to be integrated (but I have no idea how to do that)
[09:56:09] <GrzegorzB>	 on Wikipedia
[09:56:15] <GrzegorzB>	 Pair 1: Microbody (en) and Mikrociałko (pl)
[09:56:33] <GrzegorzB>	 Pair 2: Basal body (en) and Kinetosom (pl)
[09:59:41] <GrzegorzB>	 is it available?
[10:00:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 2015-05-07T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209454 
[10:00:17] <benestar>	 GrzegorzB: the first one is already linked
[10:00:51] <GrzegorzB>	 because I tried to do this but I wasn't sure I did it correct
[10:00:58] <GrzegorzB>	 what with 2nd one ?
[10:01:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQuality] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209455 
[10:01:53] <benestar>	 for the 2nd one, Basal body (en) has its item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q809753 and Kinetosom (pl) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1741994#sitelinks-wikipedia
[10:02:26] <benestar>	 both items have a link to de.wikipedia.org so there is an interwiki conflict
[10:02:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209456 
[10:02:36] <benestar>	 or the en and pl articles don't actually belong together
[10:03:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209457 
[10:03:40] <GrzegorzB>	 ok then
[10:03:41] <GrzegorzB>	 thanks
[10:03:48] <hoo>	 See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Basal_body
[10:03:53] <benestar>	 maybe the two dewiki articles are about the same topic
[10:04:03] <benestar>	 not sure, I'm not an expert in that area ^^
[10:04:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209458 
[10:04:43] <GrzegorzB>	 I am a bit and the difference is subtle
[10:04:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 031] Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209456 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[10:04:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209456 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[10:05:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 031] Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQuality] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209455 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[10:05:06] <hoo>	 But there is one, so it should probably have two items
[10:05:20] <hoo>	 you can still link using the old way (via wikitext), if needed
[10:05:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209458 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[10:05:27] <hoo>	 * link them
[10:05:29] <GrzegorzB>	 Ok. Thanks
[10:05:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209457 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[10:06:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Added WikibaseQuality repository explicitly in composer.json as long our extensions are not registered on packagist. [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209459 
[10:06:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Added WikibaseQuality repository explicitly in composer.json as long our extensions are not registered on packagist. [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209459 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[10:07:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209460 
[10:08:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209461 
[10:08:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209460 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[10:08:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Re-enabled HHVM on travis. [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209461 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag)
[10:09:08] <benestar>	 hoo: can we express "670 million years after the Big Bang" using the datetime datatype?
[10:10:24] <hoo>	 You mean as a date relative to the big bang?
[10:11:11] <benestar>	 yes
[10:11:26] <benestar>	 relative to Christs birth doesn't make sense in that context imo
[10:11:38] <hoo>	 You would need to find a calendar that supports that... I'm pretty sure there is one
[10:11:52] <hoo>	 but we no longer allow arbitrary calendars (do we?)
[10:12:14] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: Do we still allow arbitrary calendar URIs?
[10:13:13] <benestar>	 Ok, I now used 13,128 = 13798 - 670 (in millions of years)
[10:13:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Andreasburmeister: [C: 032 V: 032] changed job so it uses service to write log and prepare message [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209436 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel)
[10:13:40] <benestar>	 however, having it relative to Big Bang would really be more useful in contexts of galaxies imo
[10:13:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Andreasburmeister: allow different logging methods for the eval job [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209197 (owner: 10Andreasburmeister)
[10:14:32] * nikki continues wondering why special:unconnectedpages would be showing things which are actually connected to wikidata, months after the sitelink was added
[10:14:33] <hoo>	 Yeah, agreed
[10:14:48] <hoo>	 Daniel was talking about integrating new calendars, can't remember which, though
[10:15:03] <hoo>	 nikki: That's usually because the page_prop is not set
[10:15:13] <hoo>	 A null edit on the client page will fix that
[10:16:29] <nikki>	 something like changing whitespace on the page?
[10:17:09] <hoo>	 nikki: No, just open the edit window and click save
[10:17:12] <nikki>	 ah
[10:17:15] <hoo>	 no need to actually change anything
[10:17:39] <nikki>	 yep, that fixed it, thanks :D
[10:18:28] <hoo>	 :)
[10:44:53] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/bypropertyidmap/f399f9d : Bene The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/61594475
[10:46:17] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: test.wikidata.org does not allow to create redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98434#1268307 (10JanZerebecki) 5Invalid>3Open Yes, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Merge should probably mention https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Redirects which should point to the special page.
[10:46:46] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: document how to create redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98434#1268309 (10JanZerebecki)
[10:47:57] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar created 06setstatements (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/vJxFm
[10:47:57] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06setstatements 14cdfb7e9 15Bene: Add setStatements to StatementList
[10:49:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 2015-05-07T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209454 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:51:37] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar opened pull request #481: Add setStatements to StatementList (06master...06setstatements) 02http://git.io/vJxbZ
[10:52:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 2015-05-07T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209454 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:58:02] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar 04force-pushed 06setstatements from 14cdfb7e9 to 1475a6337: 02http://git.io/vJxAT
[10:58:02] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06setstatements 1475a6337 15Bene: Add setStatements to StatementList
[11:01:11] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ApiSandbox: Add support for <textarea> fields to the ApiSandbox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98457#1268316 (10thiemowmde) 3NEW
[11:02:03] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/bypropertyidmap/e01251e : Bene The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/61594694
[11:03:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Bene: [DNM] Use ByPropertyIdMap in ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209451 
[11:04:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [DNM] Use ByPropertyIdMap in ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209451 (owner: 10Bene)
[11:05:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Bene: [DNM] Use ByPropertyIdMap in ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209451 
[11:06:26] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Turn JSON input fields in the ApiSandbox into textareas - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98458#1268324 (10thiemowmde) 3NEW
[11:06:45] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ApiSandbox: Add support for <textarea> fields to the ApiSandbox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98457#1268316 (10thiemowmde)
[11:06:48] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Turn JSON input fields in the ApiSandbox into textareas - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98458#1268333 (10thiemowmde)
[11:07:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [DNM] Use ByPropertyIdMap in ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209451 (owner: 10Bene)
[11:10:28] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/setstatements/cdfb7e9 : Bene The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/61600461
[11:12:33] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: Put sources of datamodel diagrams into the respective code repositories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96679#1268337 (10Snaterlicious) These should be the most recent versions of the diagrams I compiled. (Entityview diagram is suppos...
[11:38:40] <JanAinali_WMSE>	 Anyone with tranlator rights here? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Translators%27_noticeboard#Wikidata:Menu_Challenge.2Fsitenotice
[11:41:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] Adjust maintenance entrypoint inclusion path [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206622 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[11:48:37] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: Put sources of datamodel diagrams into the respective code repositories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96679#1268357 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) @lydia_pintscher @daniel Here are the sources of the diagrams. Feel free to put them into the respe...
[11:51:37] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: JS time widget: add option to let the backend choose the correct calendar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96685#1268362 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) a:3thiemowmde
[11:55:20] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: Investigation: UI breaks on UnDeserializable value. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92975#1268368 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) I assume this can be closed as the investigation has been done. @aude @lyd...
[12:07:07] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: Implement tracking of label use per parser target language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93055#1268417 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) a:3daniel
[12:08:16] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: Usage tracking update / purging on edit and re-parse - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96373#1268440 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) a:5daniel>3None
[12:09:32] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: Adjust browsertests for references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92249#1268449 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW)
[12:13:32] <aljo>	 hi. i am building my own app and i am planning to use and contribute back data to wikidata.
[12:14:21] <aljo>	 question: if i contribute back, should do it through a bot or just be a data collaborator (ie, leave it to the community to merge data)?
[12:17:43] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: Deploy Google's primary sources tool to beta and test.wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95289#1268481 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) a:3JanZerebecki
[12:40:33] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar 04deleted 06bypropertyidarrayrewrite at 141fb0e96: 02http://git.io/vJp2P
[12:45:59] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar created 06statementlistprovider (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/vJpVj
[12:45:59] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06statementlistprovider 14d034b84 15Bene: Move StatementListProvider into the Statement namespace
[12:46:59] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar opened pull request #482: Move StatementListProvider into the Statement namespace (06master...06statementlistprovider) 02http://git.io/vJpwc
[12:47:29] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/statementlistprovider/d034b84 : Bene The build failed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/61612678
[12:48:48] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar 04force-pushed 06statementlistprovider from 14d034b84 to 14aed471e: 02http://git.io/vJpwx
[12:48:48] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06statementlistprovider 14aed471e 15Bene: Move StatementListProvider into the Statement namespace
[12:50:42] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_stroopwafel_logo_%2814605506527%29.jpg
[12:50:59] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/statementlistprovider/aed471e : Bene The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/61613012
[12:57:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Use ByPropertyIdGrouper instead of ByPropertyIdArray [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209376 (owner: 10Bene)
[13:00:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use ByPropertyIdGrouper instead of ByPropertyIdArray [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209376 (owner: 10Bene)
[13:02:34] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review: AbuseFilter doesn't log removal of redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98372#1268610 (10daniel) I think this is actually intended: undo/restore should not be filtered like manual edits. They should not require a captcha, etc...
[13:02:45] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #481 1475a6337: I'm wondering about the position of this relative to the throwing of extensions. If the method now gets say, a list of ints, the statement list will be cleared and then an exception will be thrown. I can't think of a concrete case we are likely to run into where this will be a problem, though do wonder if this is something to best avoid. 02http://git.io/vJpPl
[13:03:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "I'm not convinced that this is something we want to "fix". See my comment on T98372." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209274 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98372) (owner: 10Addshore)
[13:04:11] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar comment on pull request #481 1475a6337: That is a good point indeed. Perhaps having a local variable here in the first place and setting it to the field only at the end of the method would be better. 02http://git.io/vJpXk
[13:06:11] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06setstatements: 02http://git.io/vJpXF
[13:06:11] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06setstatements 14154cc60 15Jeroen De Dauw: Add @since tag...
[13:06:41] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw 04deleted 06setstatements at 14154cc60: 02http://git.io/vJp1Y
[13:07:17] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #481 14154cc60: Seems like you'll either need more memory or do the loop twice. Not sure which very minor point is more important :) 02http://git.io/vJp1V
[13:09:05] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/master/421b09c : Jeroen De Dauw The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/61615146
[13:13:44] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar created 06fix-setstatements (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/vJpSe
[13:13:44] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06fix-setstatements 14d7694ed 15Bene: Dont modifiy StatementList when invalid arguments passed to setStatements
[13:14:14] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar opened pull request #483: Dont modifiy StatementList when invalid arguments passed to setStatements (06master...06fix-setstatements) 02http://git.io/vJpS3
[13:15:51] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/fix-setstatements/d7694ed : Bene The build failed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/61616101
[13:32:09] <sjoerddebruin>	 Lydia_WMDE: Strange second edit. Couldn't use the rollback button for it. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q195797&action=history
[13:32:39] <sjoerddebruin>	 (and it's a shame that I just reverted it)
[13:37:33] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Include example JSON blobs in API module descriptions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98468#1268716 (10thiemowmde) 3NEW
[13:38:24] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Turn JSON input fields in the ApiSandbox into textareas - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98458#1268324 (10thiemowmde)
[13:38:56] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ApiSandbox: Add support for <textarea> fields to the ApiSandbox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98457#1268732 (10thiemowmde)
[13:43:05] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar 04force-pushed 06fix-setstatements from 14d7694ed to 1494f5b5c: 02http://git.io/vJhe3
[13:43:05] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06fix-setstatements 1494f5b5c 15Bene: Dont modifiy StatementList when invalid arguments passed to setStatements
[13:46:20] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/fix-setstatements/94f5b5c : Bene The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/61620583
[13:49:18] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar 04force-pushed 06statementlistprovider from 14aed471e to 14fd61763: 02http://git.io/vJpwx
[13:49:18] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06statementlistprovider 14fd61763 15Bene: Move StatementListProvider into the Statement namespace
[13:53:00] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Selecting value with keyboard is making wrong edits again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98471#1268780 (10Sjoerddebruin) 3NEW
[13:53:42] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #483 1494f5b5c: Did you mean `FivenNonStatement`? 02http://git.io/vJhUH
[13:54:27] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #483 1494f5b5c: For this test you do not need all these statements 02http://git.io/vJhTk
[13:55:11] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Need-volunteer: Create a special page to query for badges - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72209#1268805 (10Ricordisamoa) >>! In T72209#1264724, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote: > Ah that makes sense. Is there a preference from anyone one way or the other? I...
[13:55:19] <wikibugs>	 10Wikibase-DataModel, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review: Drop support for numeric ids in EntityDocument::setId - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98343#1268807 (10thiemowmde) 5Open>3declined a:3thiemowmde
[14:00:36] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #483 1494f5b5c: I think this is why #482 fails. 02http://git.io/vJhI6
[14:03:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: thx
[14:03:12] <sjoerddebruin>	 For what?
[14:03:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 will have a look
[14:03:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 for the link
[14:03:23] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ApiSandbox: Add support for <textarea> fields to the ApiSandbox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98457#1268820 (10Anomie) This isn't technically blocked by {T92893} and/or {T89386}, but it's already a feature in the rewrite I'm doing to solve those two...
[14:03:39] <sjoerddebruin>	 Ah, ok.
[14:03:59] <sjoerddebruin>	 I've also filled a task for keyboard things again
[14:05:59] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98471
[14:06:26] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 Thiemo_WMDE: merge? https://github.com/DataValues/Time/pull/66
[14:08:56] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6ArchCom, 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2015: Wikidata architecture review and feedback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92505#1268855 (10Qgil) Are you still planning to run this session? Would you prefer to have it scheduled in advanced (i.e. to promote it in our circles)?
[14:09:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Adjust time formatter heuristics for calendar display. (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209247 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/75272) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:12:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Adjust time formatter heuristics for calendar display. (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209247 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/75272) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:14:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Kinzler: Adjust time formatter heuristics for calendar display. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209247 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/75272) 
[14:14:47] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 Thiemo_WMDE: --^
[14:14:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Kinzler: Always show calendar for dates between 1580 and 1930 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209254 
[14:17:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@Smalyshev: most people should not know or care, correct. But historical dates before 1580 are conventionally given in Julian. For such da" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209254 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:17:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Always show calendar for dates between 1580 and 1930 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209254 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:18:00] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Commons, 3Roadmap, 7notice: Deploy usage tracking and arbitrary access to commonswiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98307#1268883 (10Lydia_Pintscher) ETA is unclear atm. We'll have to see how fast we can progress on the blockers. Not this month.
[14:19:26] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: document how to create redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98434#1268895 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3Resolved The general idea is that people should use the merge gadget on Wikidata as I understand it. Either way - not a ticket we keep open in the bug tracker as it is not something for...
[14:19:59] <nikki>	 I had that keyboard problem again yesterday too, but with a string
[14:21:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 jikes
[14:21:27] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2015: Wikidata activities at the Wikimedia Hackathon 2015 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92270#1268901 (10Qgil) If there are any sessions that you would prefer to schedule in advance (i.e. a training session for newcomers), please let me know. The time to book slots is n...
[14:24:18] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Commons, 3Roadmap, 7notice: Deploy usage tracking and arbitrary access to commonswiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98307#1268925 (10SamB) @Lydia_Pinscher: does commons really need to use the labels right off the bat anyway? For example, authority control stuff shouldn't be affected by...
[14:26:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Kinzler: Always show calendar for dates between 1580 and 1930 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209254 
[14:27:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Always show calendar for dates between 1580 and 1930 (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209254 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:29:45] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6ArchCom, 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2015: Wikidata architecture review and feedback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92505#1268951 (10daniel) @qgil: yes and yes :)
[14:30:23] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Commons, 3Roadmap, 7notice: Deploy usage tracking and arbitrary access to commonswiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98307#1268952 (10Lydia_Pintscher) I want to roll this out in one go. It'd be too confusing to communicate in an understandable way why some things work and some others do...
[14:30:55] <JanAinali_WMSE>	 Vogone: I think something strange happened when you marked the page for translation
[14:31:15] <Vogone>	 JanAinali_WMSE: what happened?
[14:32:12] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Commons, 3Roadmap, 7notice: Deploy usage tracking and arbitrary access to commonswiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98307#1268963 (10SamB) Which is to say, it seems kind of silly to have {T89598} waiting on {T89002}.
[14:32:45] <JanAinali_WMSE>	 Vogone: I cannot translate those pages
[14:32:54] <JanAinali_WMSE>	 *that page
[14:33:14] <SamB_laptop>	 hmm, why was I not expecting Lydia_WMDE to have responded yet
[14:33:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 SamB_laptop: :D
[14:33:40] <JanAinali_WMSE>	 The interface is there, but it will not save
[14:34:38] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Selecting value with keyboard is making wrong edits again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98471#1268979 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5High>3Unbreak!
[14:35:48] <Vogone>	 JanAinali_WMSE: seems like a job queue issue, the only solution is too wait a bit
[14:35:52] <Vogone>	 *to
[14:36:29] <JanAinali_WMSE>	 Ah, I see. Thanks!
[14:37:05] <sjoerddebruin>	 Lydia_WMDE: The worst thing with that bug (keyboard ^) is that it seems to bypass the abuse filters. You mostly get a warning when adding the wrong gender, if you add them edits get marked. But not this one.
[14:37:22] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: narf
[14:37:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 bad
[14:37:30] <SamB_laptop>	 Lydia_WMDE: asking for an arbitrary item/property's label (even in english) could just return a short message including the URL to T89002. But I do see what you mean about not wanting to split it up ...
[14:37:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah
[14:38:08] <sjoerddebruin>	 Wait, there is a log but I didn't get a warning. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/629497
[14:39:58] <nikki>	 is there a reason why the "did you mean" thing when searching comes up with such bizarre suggestions? like I searched for "street address" and it asked me "Did you mean: sterkt addless" (er, no, I didn't, oddly enough :P)
[14:40:21] * SamB_laptop has tangential thoughts, culminating in wondering why http/2 has such a strange dependency model for resources
[14:40:32] <sjoerddebruin>	 nikki: It seems that it displays other languages now
[14:40:45] <sjoerddebruin>	 Don't know if it's bug or feature...
[14:40:52] <addshore>	 nikki: how many 404s did you have left then? :)
[14:40:57] <nikki>	 140 :)
[14:41:19] <addshore>	 woo! I managed to get rid of a big chunk then!
[14:41:28] <sjoerddebruin>	 Does the property suggester has language fallback now?
[14:41:29] <nikki>	 yep, thanks!
[14:42:35] <addshore>	 still thousands more to go for me though nikki ;p
[14:43:20] <Abbe98>	 Should labels start with "The" when referring an object name? For example should "The Love Gate" be "Love Gate" instead? Example: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19784031 (instance of gate)
[14:44:39] <sjoerddebruin>	 Why?
[14:44:42] <SamB_laptop>	 Abbe98: is The part of the name?
[14:45:13] <SamB_laptop>	 for example, "The Legend of Zelda" is arguably correct
[14:47:25] <Abbe98>	 Thanks
[15:01:12] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #66 141a4c5ab: Note: We can set this option to `CALENDAR_GREGORIAN` in Wikibase.git, if we need to avoid a breaking change. 02http://git.io/vJhK1
[15:02:28] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #66 141a4c5ab: Similar to my comments on the `HtmlTimeFormatter` I find this piece of code scary. But it can easily be refactored later. As with all parser related stuff the tests are crucial, not the actual implementation. 02http://git.io/vJh6l
[15:03:43] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Gather, 10MediaWiki-Interface, 6Mobile-Web: setHTMLTitle to empty string or false should prevent rendering of H1 on page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97891#1269092 (10matmarex) > Can we make set `$out->setHTMLTitle( false );` kill this h1 element?  This sounds sensible to me. Like Flo...
[15:06:48] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Mobile-Web, 10Vector: setHTMLTitle to empty string or false should prevent rendering of H1 on page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97891#1269102 (10Jdlrobson)
[15:06:58] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Mobile-Web, 10Vector: setHTMLTitle to empty string or false should prevent rendering of H1 on page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97891#1254408 (10Jdlrobson) Doing this for Vector and mobile skin seems like a good start.
[15:12:58] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ApiSandbox: Add support for <textarea> fields to the ApiSandbox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98457#1269111 (10thiemowmde) Great to hear that! :-) Does this mean the ApiSandbox extension can be considered legacy code and it would be a waste of time t...
[15:15:19] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Better support for exact values in Quantity DataType - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68580#1269142 (10geraki) @daniel The default uncertainty value is not bad only for //population//. I is also bad for atomic number (P1086), number of masts (P1099), s...
[15:17:21] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #66 141a4c5ab: Important tests. I just checked if it was like this before (the option does have lower priority than the string) and yes, it was. 02http://git.io/vJh9f
[15:18:15] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar comment on pull request #483 1494f5b5c: Perhaps that is the right way to describe the test in English. 02http://git.io/vJh99
[15:18:50] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar comment on pull request #483 1494f5b5c: One statement is enough, indeed. However, it does not hurt to have more of them. Is this an issue? 02http://git.io/vJhHq
[15:20:08] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06GuessCalendar-T75272 at 141a4c5ab: 02http://git.io/vJhHd
[15:20:33] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/vJhQe
[15:20:33] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 140bdeeb5 15Bene*: Remove leading space
[15:20:54] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar comment on pull request #483 1494f5b5c: I fixed this directly in master as this change does not need any discussion and makes all the tests fail. 02http://git.io/vJhQY
[15:24:50] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/master/0bdeeb5 : Bene* The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/61634668
[15:26:00] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar 04force-pushed 06fix-setstatements from 1494f5b5c to 14d8d274a: 02http://git.io/vJhe3
[15:26:00] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06fix-setstatements 14d8d274a 15Bene: Dont modifiy StatementList when invalid arguments passed to setStatements
[15:36:53] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar 04force-pushed 06bypropertyidmap from 145c99a97 to 14e0c0246: 02http://git.io/vJF76
[15:36:53] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06bypropertyidmap 14e0c0246 15Bene: Create ByPropertyIdMap
[15:44:19] <wikibugs>	 10Wikibase-DataModel, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review: Drop support for numeric ids in EntityDocument::setId - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98343#1269214 (10Bene) Thanks @thiemowmde for closing this. I forgot that this task was still open.
[15:52:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: Add modifier field to EntityUsage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207426 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/93055) 
[15:52:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Use usage modifiers when detecting affected pages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209512 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/93055) 
[15:55:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use usage modifiers when detecting affected pages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209512 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/93055) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:56:11] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde created 06julianDetector (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/vJjLf
[15:56:11] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06julianDetector 1458c6fdb 15Thiemo Mättig: Simplify calendar model detection code
[15:56:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add modifier field to EntityUsage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207426 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/93055) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:58:58] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #68: Simplify calendar model detection code (06master...06julianDetector) 02http://git.io/vJjtl
[16:00:58] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06julianDetector from 1458c6fdb to 14d1c1416: 02http://git.io/vJjq4
[16:00:58] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06julianDetector 14d1c1416 15Thiemo Mättig: Simplify calendar model detection code
[16:03:45] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde created 06midnight (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/vJjYJ
[16:03:45] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06midnight 14493b4bf 15Thiemo Mättig: Fix IsoTimestampParser on midnight
[16:05:01] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #69: Fix IsoTimestampParser on midnight (06master...06midnight) 02http://git.io/vJjOL
[16:10:43] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #483 14d8d274a: Sure. Thanks for documenting it. 02http://git.io/vJjGR
[16:13:32] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06statementlistprovider from 14fd61763 to 14b67455f: 02http://git.io/vJpwx
[16:13:32] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06statementlistprovider 14b67455f 15Bene: Move StatementListProvider into the Statement namespace
[16:30:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] Adjust time formatter heuristics for calendar display. (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209247 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/75272) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:30:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] Always show calendar for dates between 1580 and 1930 (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209254 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:31:37] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ApiSandbox: Add support for <textarea> fields to the ApiSandbox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98457#1269454 (10Anomie) >>! In T98457#1269111, @thiemowmde wrote: > Great to hear that! :-) Does this mean the ApiSandbox extension can be considered legac...
[16:49:19] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 3Roadmap, 7notice: Deploy usage tracking and arbitrary access to zhwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98286#1269489 (10liangent) Although I said that I was looking forward to it and there would be good use cases on zhwiki, I don't have time to work on it right now. Since it's mentioned in...
[16:56:42] <SMalyshev>	 DanielK_WMDE__: could you take a look at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98405?
[16:57:37] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 SMalyshev: i saw that and wondered about it. the patch should be trivial. In EntityDataSerializationService::rdfSerializer, there is $rdfBuilder->addDumpHeader();
[16:57:44] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 we can probably just remove that
[16:57:48] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 i wonder how it got there, and why
[16:57:56] <SMalyshev>	 DanielK_WMDE__: no idea... :)
[16:58:18] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 Seems like I put it there when dropping RdfSerializer
[16:58:40] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 SMalyshev: just kill it and adapt the test cases, i'll merge it 
[16:58:50] <SMalyshev>	 DanielK_WMDE__: ok
[16:59:09] <SMalyshev>	 will make the patch after the meeting
[17:02:12] <wikibugs>	 10Wikibase-DataModel, 10Wikidata: Fix inconsistent With vs. By naming in DataModel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98180#1269521 (10thiemowmde) > I think this is obvious  Not at all. A "StatementWithGuidMap" sounds wrong, I agree on that. But I really don't see what's wrong with "get by id", especially if...
[17:05:08] <20WAA72PR>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/vJjXe
[17:05:08] <20WAA72PR>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 1418b491b 15Jeroen De Dauw: Merge pull request #482 from wmde/statementlistprovider...
[17:05:08] <92AAA6CI6>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw 04deleted 06statementlistprovider at 14b67455f: 02http://git.io/vJjXv
[17:06:14] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw closed pull request #483: Dont modifiy StatementList when invalid arguments passed to setStatements (06master...06fix-setstatements) 02http://git.io/vJpS3
[17:25:35] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/vJjdt
[17:25:35] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 144f0bc2f 15Bene*: Reflect rename of method in release notes
[17:26:38] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2015, 10Wikipedia-Android-App, 10Wikipedia-iOS-App: Make app Wikidata description editable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90765#1269562 (10dr0ptp4kt)
[17:28:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Sumit: WikidataPageBanner: PAGEBANNER magic word added [extensions/WikidataPageBanner] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209432 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97455) 
[17:28:44] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar created 06release-notes (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/vJjFu
[17:28:44] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06release-notes 148962f1d 15Bene*: Same format of alternatives in release notes...
[17:28:50] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar opened pull request #484: Same format of alternatives in release notes (06master...06release-notes) 02http://git.io/vJjFw
[17:29:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Track language of label usage on the client. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209531 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/96298) 
[17:30:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Sumit: WikidataPageBanner: PAGEBANNER magic word added (031 comment) [extensions/WikidataPageBanner] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209432 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97455) (owner: 10Sumit)
[17:31:26] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/release-notes/8962f1d : Bene* The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/61652998
[17:32:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: "Thanks for the update. I will try this on my local machine." (031 comment) [extensions/WikidataPageBanner] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209432 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97455) (owner: 10Sumit)
[17:39:34] * SamB_laptop grumbles about "DraggableSitelinks: Easily add a Wikipedia as an "imported from" (P143) reference to any statement." not working
[17:45:20] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Better support for exact values in Quantity DataType - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68580#1269605 (10daniel) @geraki: Yes, these properties refer to exact counts of things. That's exactly why I propose to introduce a separate data type for counts, se...
[17:49:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Kinzler: Add modifier field to EntityUsage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207426 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/93055) 
[17:55:39] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: Investigation: UI breaks on UnDeserializable value. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92975#1269623 (10aude) unless we have another task for the actual bug, then I would keep this open and re...
[17:55:54] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: UI breaks on UnDeserializable value. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92975#1269624 (10aude)
[17:58:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: Use usage modifiers when detecting affected pages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209512 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/93055) 
[17:59:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: Track language of label usage on the client. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209531 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/96298) 
[18:02:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add modifier field to EntityUsage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207426 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/93055) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:03:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Track language of label usage on the client. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209531 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/96298) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:04:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: Adjust time formatter heuristics for calendar display. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209247 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/75272) 
[18:04:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Adjust time formatter heuristics for calendar display. (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209247 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/75272) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:08:07] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Commons, 3Roadmap, 7notice: Deploy usage tracking and arbitrary access to commonswiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98307#1269634 (10SamB)
[18:08:12] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 3Roadmap, 7Tracking, and 2 others: Allow accessing data from a Wikidata item not connected to the current page - arbitrary access (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49930#1269635 (10SamB)
[18:18:32] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-05-05: AbuseFilter doesn't log removal of redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98372#1269658 (10Addshore)
[18:24:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: Always show calendar for dates between 1580 and 1930 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209254 
[18:29:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207426 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/93055) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:40:55] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Commons, 6Multimedia, 10Structured-Multimedia-Data: Convert Template:Authority_control to Lua and use Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89598#1269715 (10SamB)
[18:47:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Kinzler: Track language of label usage on the client. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209531 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/96298) 
[18:49:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Always show calendar for dates between 1580 and 1930 (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209254 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[19:00:07] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Search-Team, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: have API that shows which entities changed since a specific change instead of time - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85103#1269804 (10Manybubbles) I suspect its safe to use it rccontinue to set the rc_id minimum for now but the point of these opaque cont...
[19:02:36] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Search-Team, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: have API that shows which entities changed since a specific change instead of time - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85103#1269810 (10Smalyshev) The problem is not getting the change twice. The problem is since we don't have the ending point, if we ask b...
[19:07:15] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Search-Team, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: have API that shows which entities changed since a specific change instead of time - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85103#1269825 (10Manybubbles) Got it. Makes sense to me.
[19:12:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Smalyshev: T98405: don't need the Dump one in Special:EntityData [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209571 
[19:32:44] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: Hey, nog wat leuks gedaan de afgelopen dagen? :)
[19:33:17] <multichill>	 Put online some nice paintings
[19:34:20] <multichill>	 An had to work this week, but a nice short week. And how about you sjoerddebruin?
[19:34:52] <sjoerddebruin>	 Well, cookies and rollercoaster tycoon. Oh, and cleared up the gender backlog for nlwiki.
[19:34:55] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Allow sitelinks to wikipedia and wikivoyage redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564#1269990 (10SamB) >>! In T54564#836125, @Jane023 wrote: > It would be more constructive if the complainers here would...
[19:36:30] * SamB_laptop finally found what he feels is an appropriate application of the "the world burns" token
[19:37:01] <multichill>	 SamB_laptop: And I found one for thumbs down!
[19:37:36] <SamB_laptop>	 multichill: I'm not totally behind this proposed method of dealing with the problem, but I'm 100% not behind the "just" in "just create those articles"
[19:38:02] <multichill>	 yeah, less redirect, more articles ;-)
[19:38:13] <SamB_laptop>	 I mean, I wouldn't mind the articles existing
[19:38:34] <SamB_laptop>	 but trivializing the effort required is not helpful
[19:40:14] <SamB_laptop>	 I guess I sorta feel like some redirects are more notable than others, and it should be possible to do something in their wikitext to allow them to be linked on wikidata
[19:40:59] <multichill>	 SamB_laptop: Most of the Commons LUA stuff isn't blocked. You can work on it
[19:41:15] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Allow sitelinks to wikipedia and wikivoyage redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564#1270060 (10matej_suchanek)
[19:41:22] <multichill>	 But I think the real blocker is not enough people with LUA knowledge who want to work on it :-(
[19:43:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 04-1] WikidataPageBanner: PAGEBANNER magic word added (039 comments) [extensions/WikidataPageBanner] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209432 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97455) (owner: 10Sumit)
[19:43:21] <SamB_laptop>	 multichill: hmm, what commons lua stuff isn't blocked?
[19:44:02] <multichill>	 The convert everything to LUA part!
[19:44:19] <multichill>	 First existing functionality has to be reimplemented in LUA, tested, debugged, deployed 
[19:44:34] <multichill>	 And when we're finally done, we can add new things like grabbing data from Wikidata
[19:45:30] <multichill>	 If we don't do it like this I tell you what will happen: arbitrary access gets deployed on Commons and nothing happens.....
[19:46:01] <multichill>	 It would be like giving a new car to a toddler
[19:46:02] <SamB_laptop>	 multichill: point
[19:46:24] <SamB_laptop>	 the unsexy part ;-)
[19:46:33] <SamB_laptop>	 but obviously-still-needed
[19:46:44] <multichill>	 Exactly. The shitload of work part
[19:47:08] <multichill>	 We probably don't have a lot of people on Commons who are good with LUA...
[19:47:59] <SamB_laptop>	 I'm not exactly good with lua myself, but I do have the advantage of having at least used it a few times
[19:48:11] <SamB_laptop>	 if not much in scribunto
[19:50:43] <multichill>	 That's probably already more than 95% of the Commons users
[19:53:40] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Allow sitelinks to wikipedia and wikivoyage redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564#1270206 (10SamB)
[19:54:02] <SamB_laptop>	 yeah, I realize that
[19:54:37] <SamB_laptop>	 trying to figure out how to multilingualize Module:Documentation might be a better starting project though?
[19:54:44] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Search-Team, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: Wikidata Query - make unit tests for domain specific language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86832#1270216 (10Manybubbles) 5Open>3declined
[19:55:30] * SamB_laptop is a bit confused by that last status update ...
[19:59:47] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Supporting __STATICREDIRECT__ - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T42755#1270261 (10SamB)
[19:59:55] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Supporting __STATICREDIRECT__ - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T42755#452738 (10SamB)
[19:59:58] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Allow sitelinks to wikipedia and wikivoyage redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564#558212 (10SamB)
[20:05:10] <SamB_laptop>	 hmm, should https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1123288 really be treated as a list article?
[20:05:54] <SamB_laptop>	 it has several instances
[20:08:06] <sjoerddebruin>	 It should be split.
[20:31:46] <SamB_laptop>	 hmm, I'm not sure I grasp the topic of https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conex%C3%B5es_http
[21:07:29] * SamB_laptop created <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19862850>, but really hopes nobody adds any wikilinks unless they have a strange wiki that defines the concept on a page distinct from the list ...
[21:08:27] <Termininja>	 hi, what property can I use for fossil range in taxons : temporal range start/end (P523/P524) or latest/earliest date (P1319/P1326)?
[21:20:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Sumit: [C: 04-1] "I'll soon upload a new patch with corrections." [extensions/WikidataPageBanner] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209432 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97455) (owner: 10Sumit)
[21:22:53] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: Implement HTTP/2 for Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98527#1270547 (10SamB) 3NEW
[21:28:04] <SamB_laptop>	 is there somewhere I can search labels by regex?
[21:28:44] <SamB_laptop>	 I'm wondering if there are any other "HTTP [0-9]{3}" items
[21:34:23] <legoktm>	 SamB_laptop: you can using the replicated labs databases
[21:34:32] <legoktm>	 there's a table and then use mysql's RLIKE functionality
[21:39:53] <SamB_laptop>	 legoktm: got a link for that first part?
[21:40:07] <SamB_laptop>	 also when are you guys migrating to maria
[21:43:37] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw closed pull request #484: Same format of alternatives in release notes (06master...06release-notes) 02http://git.io/vJjFw
[21:44:06] <SamB_laptop>	 (... maybe it's a little early for that, sounds like it's not clear which one ships in stretch ...)
[21:47:58] <legoktm>	 SamB_laptop: oh, it's technically mariadb
[21:48:12] <SamB_laptop>	 ah
[21:48:27] <legoktm>	 SamB_laptop: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Tool_Labs/Database
[22:15:34] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: Implement incremental updates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85951#1270739 (10Smalyshev)
[22:16:41] <JanAinali_WMSE>	 The challenge has started, 291 items in the list: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Menu_Challenge/list
[22:23:27] * SamB_laptop sees lychee and thinks to himself "how do you spell "in popular culture" on wikidata?"
[22:36:30] <SamB_laptop>	 hmm, for some reason I've started messing with some of those items without bothering about what the challenge is about ;-)
[22:37:02] <legoktm>	 https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:%C3%96ppna_data_2015/Visualisering/T%C3%A4vling also looks exciting
[22:38:48] <legoktm>	 doesn't look like I'm eligible though :(
[22:44:37] <JanAinali_WMSE>	 SamB_laptop: Nice, it will probably help other people!
[23:16:48] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Easy, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21: description in other languages is not readable without clicking edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93807#1270941 (10Lucie) Not sure, but might be connected to this bug;  Long property names in references are n...