[00:03:12] JeroenDeDauw: Change is fine with me, but I don't want to override Thiemo, will comment [00:50:14] and it turns out that the reason I'm getting these bitmap fonts isn't even because I turned that on; it was a failure in the fontconfig-config package to properly upgrade some of the symlinks in its configuration ... [01:30:10] I have some questions about wikidata that I would like to ask [01:30:29] !admin [01:31:38] !admin [01:31:53] ? [01:32:04] I am confused about Wikidata and would like some help [01:32:15] sure ask, maybe I can help [01:33:07] I know that freebase is now only read only. How do i edit items that come up incorrectly on google's knowledge graph and I'd like to fix? [01:34:23] For example, my name is Lisa Heller and when you look me up on google, in the Knowledge graph, my picture and wikipedia come up. But it says I'm a film producer but I'm actually a singer and songwriter [01:36:18] ? [01:36:49] it is not known to me where the data from the current Knowledge grapgh comes from [01:36:56] lisa_, have you tried the gray feedback link underneath the box you see in google search results? [01:37:10] I think that's the only way google supports to correct mistakes at this point. [01:37:24] in the Wikidata item on Wikidata I read Lias is a singer and songwriter: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6558079 [01:38:31] Eloquence, yes I have tried that with no success [01:38:54] And Romaine yes I saw that [01:39:32] Is there anywhere on wikidata that mentions Lisa Heller the film producer? [01:40:20] lisa_, google pulls from a variety of sources, including IMDB -- I'm guessing they got it from here: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0375352/ [01:40:46] wikipedia/wikidata is just another source for them, it does not have special status as being the canonical source of truth [01:42:38] ok so what can I do on wikidata to make sure that at least wikidata doesn't mention the film producer? [01:42:54] well maybe the film producer deserves mentioning as a separate item :-) [01:43:05] but in the one about you, it looks like it's not mentioned, so you should be good [01:44:51] ok thank you! Is the wikidata on me all done correctly? Like could you help me to add various things like a link to my website, lisaheller.com, some articles and images? [01:46:05] it looks ok -- right now it only cites wikipedia itself as a source for all its claims, it'd be good to add references [01:46:45] the other page I saw for Lisa Keller I just deleted [01:46:52] was empty one [01:47:40] if you go to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6558079 and click the "add" link at the bottom you can add more info, like your official website [01:48:21] articles don't really belong in wikidata (it's just the most basic structured data about a topic), unless they're referencing a fact like your birthdate / birthplace, in which case you can add them as references [01:48:55] ok thank you so much!! and lisa heller or lisa keller? just wondering because people often confuse the two! [01:49:17] ^ link above goes to the lisa heller item about you [01:49:58] ok and are there images on wikidata? [01:51:04] not on wikidata directly, but you can add images by filename (it's structured data, no shiny interfaces here) [01:51:16] so if https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lisa_Heller_Singer.jpg is you, you can add that as Lisa_Heller_Singer.jpg with the image property [01:51:32] at least I think that should work :) [01:51:58] yes [01:53:28] and how exactly do I add that image? Do I create a statement and add it to that? [01:53:50] yep, you add a statement, "image" as the property, and the filename (without the full URL) as the value [01:55:00] it won't actually show you the image, because that would be overly fancy ;) [01:55:20] if it worked it should link to it though. [01:56:24] Ok great it worked- thank you so much!!! [01:57:55] np :). if you come around European timezone, you might find denny from Google who may be able to help with your search result problem, he sometimes hangs out here. [01:58:18] actually .. he is in the US now of course :P [01:59:47] wow, I turned off bitmap fonts in my fontconfig config and iceweasel picked up the change without restarting [02:35:46] so, um, what coordinate system does P625 use? [02:35:59] especially on, say, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q168416 [04:20:29] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 3Roadmap, 7Tracking, and 2 others: Allow accessing data from a Wikidata item not connected to the current page - arbitrary access (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49930#1240759 (10SamB) [08:52:18] (03PS1) 10Dominic.sauer: Refactor DumpMetaInformation as pure value class, using DumpMetaInformationStore and DumpMetaInformationLookup [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207049 [09:36:25] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata: add info if langlink is stored at repository or local - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T43345#1241092 (10Nemo_bis) There are still Wikipedias with hundreds of thousands interwikis in wikitext, according to https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesDatabaseWikiLi... [09:43:04] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Performance: Investigate about more efficient PropertyInfoStore implementations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97368#1241094 (10daniel) One thin we can do is to split the cache by "type" of info, i.e. have... [09:50:22] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-2] "DNM, needs discussion." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206820 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73785) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:53:44] 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21: don't take case into consideration for item labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97129#1241101 (10daniel) Items only conflict if label *and* description are the same. In which cases does this cause problems? Are there items that have labels t... [09:55:18] 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21: don't take case into consideration for item labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97129#1241103 (10daniel) >>! In T97129#1238460, @thiemowmde wrote: > Please let's revert https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/203531/ first if it's a problem in pr... [09:56:29] (03PS2) 10Dominic.sauer: Refactor DumpMetaInformation as pure value class, using DumpMetaInformationStore and DumpMetaInformationLookup [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207049 [10:01:26] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-28T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207055 [10:01:42] (03PS3) 10Dominic.sauer: Refactor DumpMetaInformation as pure value class, using DumpMetaInformationStore and DumpMetaInformationLookup [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207049 [10:04:18] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-28T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207055 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:04:25] Hoi, Lydia mentioned that all edits should be visible even when made in quick succession. [10:04:40] I was to ping when it was still the case in the next week [10:04:45] it is the next week [10:06:39] (03PS1) 10Andreasburmeister: fixed no/somevalue crashes in checkresult [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207056 [10:09:28] (03CR) 10Andreasburmeister: "Darn, that branch vs topic issue again..." [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207056 (owner: 10Andreasburmeister) [10:16:58] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch created 06mw_selenium_1.0 (+6 new commits): 02http://git.io/vfNkm [10:16:58] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06mw_selenium_1.0 14d55b89e 15WMDE-Fisch: upgrade Gemfile [10:16:58] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06mw_selenium_1.0 14a014dbb 15WMDE-Fisch: updated env.rb [10:16:58] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06mw_selenium_1.0 146539b36 15WMDE-Fisch: replaced @browser [10:27:55] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch 04force-pushed 06mw_selenium_1.0 from 14db94be7 to 14fbb3475: 02http://git.io/vfNqt [10:27:55] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06mw_selenium_1.0 14fbb3475 15WMDE-Fisch: added environments.yml (not used atm) [10:35:43] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch opened pull request #73: updated to mediawiki_selenium 1.1.0 (06master...06mw_selenium_1.0) 02http://git.io/vfNOc [10:57:45] Hi guys. We are now in the Russian Wikipedia discuss selector syntax for qualifiers. I want to hear the third-party opinion. [11:00:31] My main proposal is jQuery like syntax: p123[!p456;p456:789,890][rank:normal,preferred][1] — (no P456 qualifier or P456=789 or P456=890) and (rank=normal or rank=preferred) → get first value [11:01:37] Also, there is a proposal to use the WDQ syntax. Something like p123{STRING[456:789] AND CLAIM[567:890]}. [11:03:00] It will all be passed as a {{Wikidata}} template parameter: {{wikidata|p123[p456:789]}}. [11:04:04] What do you think? Which syntax is better to choose? [11:50:36] (03PS2) 10Dominic.sauer: split CrossCheckResultToViolationTranslator [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206785 [12:00:47] (03PS3) 10Dominic.sauer: split CrossCheckResultToViolationTranslator [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206785 [12:13:38] (03PS2) 10Dominic.sauer: Split CheckResultToViolationTranslator [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206792 [12:15:16] 10Wikidata, 10Wikimedia-Language-setup, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 6operations, 5Patch-For-Review: Create Wikipedia Konkani - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1241364 (10Springle) >>! In T96468#1222975, @Krenair wrote: > * Sanitarium config (@Coren/@Springle? This needs your confirmation) Sanita... [12:19:14] (03PS3) 10Dominic.sauer: Split CheckResultToViolationTranslator [extensions/WikidataQualityConstraints] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206792 [12:25:53] (03CR) 10Tamslo: Refactor DumpMetaInformation as pure value class, using DumpMetaInformationStore and DumpMetaInformationLookup (032 comments) [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207049 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [12:25:59] Lydia_WMDE: Daniel is not working today? [12:27:44] I have three changes I want merged before creating the branch (the label uniqueness stuff and a very minor dump thing) [12:27:50] Not sure what others have as blocker [12:27:55] if any [12:28:43] * hoo notices it's story time [12:28:45] * hoo hides [12:30:52] (03PS4) 10Dominic.sauer: split CrossCheckResultToViolationTranslator [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206785 [12:36:12] putnik: interesting discussion, thanks for asking. :) I hope someone knowledgeable answers you. [12:37:39] jzerebecki: ping [12:39:16] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 10Browser-Tests, 6Release-Engineering: investigate failing Wikidata browsertests on jenkins - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92619#1241421 (10WMDE-Fisch) I made some progress in analysing the problem. It seems to occur because the browser window on... [12:45:00] Nemo_bis, I guess Russian Wikipedia is the only large project that actively uses Wikidata, if nothing has changed in recent time. So it's hard to use the others experience =) [12:45:54] putnik: You're going to be in Lyon for the Hackathon, right? :) [12:46:36] putnik: there's also the Latin Wikipedia! They use Wikidata data very prominently [12:47:10] hoo, yes. But I'm not sure exactly what I will do there. [12:48:44] putnik: There's always something awesome to hack on during these :D [12:49:06] I think it would be good if we could take there, about your experience with using Wikidata on Wikipedia [12:49:22] Nemo_bis, Thanks, I didn't know. I should see what they are doing. [12:52:28] putnik: when I find something, I add stuff to the relevant Wikidata categories [12:52:45] So Lydia told me to do :) [12:53:05] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11985372 [12:53:42] https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula:Capsa_Vicidata -> https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Celsius [12:53:54] I think it's quite pretty [12:59:28] * aude waves [12:59:35] hoo: what do you want reviewed? [12:59:38] hey aude \o/ [12:59:48] aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206808 very simple [12:59:59] I got that variable confused when introducing prefetching [13:00:13] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206386 [13:00:14] * aude click [13:00:17] not so simple, but unbreak now [13:00:57] * aude has to login to gerrit [13:02:00] I need to change rooms, will probably be back in a bit [13:04:27] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "looks obvious..." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206808 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:07:39] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Only prefetch entities we will actually load in DumpGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206808 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:08:34] 10Wikidata, 7Schema-change, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21: Deploy schema changes to wbc_entity_usage table on test.wikidata, testwiki and wikidatawiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95179#1241436 (10aude) [13:08:46] 10Wikidata, 7Schema-change, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21: Deploy schema changes to wbc_entity_usage table on wikidatawiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95179#1241437 (10aude) [13:09:19] 10Wikidata, 7Schema-change, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21: Deploy schema changes to wbc_entity_usage table on wikidatawiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95179#1182445 (10aude) [13:09:28] 10Wikidata, 7Schema-change, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21: Deploy schema changes to wbc_entity_usage table on wikidatawiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95179#1182445 (10aude) p:5Normal>3High [13:16:23] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/9f16c8b : jenkins-bot The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/60373363 [13:48:48] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15zeljkofilipin comment on pull request #73 14fbb3475: You should probably still explicitly say which gem version you want:... 02http://git.io/vfAcB [13:49:46] (03CR) 10Soeren.oldag: [C: 032 V: 032] split CrossCheckResultToViolationTranslator [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206785 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [13:49:58] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15zeljkofilipin comment on pull request #73 14fbb3475: Wait, upgrading the gem should not require you to change `on` method to `visit`. Am I missing something? 02http://git.io/vfAcj [13:55:20] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Performance: Use an own load section for Wikibase DB queries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97414#1241553 (10hoo) 3NEW [13:56:13] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch comment on pull request #73 14fbb3475: Without this change the test using these steps as first step failed with:... 02http://git.io/vfA8E [13:57:11] DanielK_WMDE__: Could you please have a look at the label uniqueness change of mine? [14:00:10] (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Refactored comparers. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207090 [14:00:28] hoo: which one? what does it do? Make label uniqueness for items case sensitive again? I actually do not think we should do that. IMHO it harms mroe than it does good. [14:00:53] (03PS2) 10Soeren.oldag: Refactored comparers. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207090 [14:01:25] DanielK_WMDE__: Lydia decided that that's very important to undo (for items) [14:01:35] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add function names to JavaScript closures [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207094 [14:01:44] I guess we could have a larger discussion about that after, but for now either do that or the full revert [14:01:53] and I prefer to only revert for items for nwp [14:02:47] hoo: i discussed it with her earlier, and I think I convinced her. Let'S ask her when she's back. [14:02:55] ok [14:02:55] hoo: pong [14:03:02] I commented on the ticket, I'll write a bit mroe there now [14:03:20] [13WikibaseDataModelJavaScript] 15thiemowmde created 06functionNames (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/vfARb [14:03:20] 13WikibaseDataModelJavaScript/06functionNames 14c034fbc 15Thiemo Mättig: Add function names to JavaScript closures [14:03:35] [13WikibaseDataModelJavaScript] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #30: Add function names to JavaScript closures (06master...06functionNames) 02http://git.io/vfA0f [14:03:51] jzerebecki: Basically wanted you to review the uniqueness stuff [14:04:22] hoo: is someone else already on it? [14:04:35] * jzerebecki is in the ci meeting now [14:04:36] Daniel is, I guess [14:04:40] good [14:04:44] Ok, don't want to bother you then [14:05:29] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add function names to JavaScript closures [extensions/WikibaseJavaScriptApi] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207100 [14:06:41] [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15thiemowmde created 06functionNames (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/vfAEY [14:06:41] 13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript/06functionNames 14f48d3f9 15Thiemo Mättig: Add function names to JavaScript closures [14:07:06] [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #18: Add function names to JavaScript closures (06master...06functionNames) 02http://git.io/vfAE8 [14:07:37] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "We do this in other places already" [extensions/WikibaseJavaScriptApi] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207100 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:07:39] got to go [14:07:42] battery giving up [14:08:47] (03Abandoned) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Revert "Ignore capitalization for label and description conflicts." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206820 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73785) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:10:38] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add function names to JavaScript closures [extensions/WikibaseJavaScriptApi] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207100 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:11:00] 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21: don't take case into consideration for item labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97129#1241605 (10daniel) For reference, the relevant report on Wikidata is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#Problem_on_Upper.2... [14:16:37] 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-21: don't take case into consideration for item labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97129#1241617 (10Lydia_Pintscher) Just discussed this more with Daniel. I'll discuss this more on-wiki. Let's hold off for now. [14:16:56] does mediawiki/wikipedia have a way to generate images of musical notation? I got an oppose on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Unsorted#playing_range_image but I'm not aware of a way that the templates would be able to generate the images themselves [14:17:36] nikki: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Score [14:19:30] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-2] "CR-2 for now due to ongoing discussion on T97129 an on-wiki (03PS1) 10Gilles: Explicitly define module position [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97410) [14:19:57] ah [14:20:49] wmde/WikibaseDataModelJavaScript/functionNames/c034fbc : Thiemo Mättig The build failed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelJavaScript/builds/60381052 [14:21:59] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Make label/description uniqueness checks case insensitive for properties (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97129) (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:22:08] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] Make label/description uniqueness checks case insensitive for properties (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97129) (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:23:01] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Explicitly define module position [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97410) (owner: 10Gilles) [14:28:29] (03CR) 10Dominic.sauer: [C: 032 V: 032] Refactored comparers. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207090 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag) [14:29:40] [13WikimediaBadges] 15gi11es opened pull request #17: Explicitly define module position (06master...06patch-1) 02http://git.io/vfAKA [14:29:56] (03PS1) 10Tamslo: Refactor DumpMetaInformation as pure value class, using DumpMetaInformationStore and DumpMetaInformationLookup [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207113 [14:34:51] DanielK_WMDE__: http://xkcd.com/1514/ [14:34:55] 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 3Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: the changed job configuration extension-unittests -> extension-unittests-generic for Wikidata.git makes it not run all tests and fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95897#1241665 (10JanZerebecki) [14:41:23] (03PS4) 10Tamslo: Refactor DumpMetaInformation as pure value class, using DumpMetaInformationStore and DumpMetaInformationLookup [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207049 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [14:42:26] (03Abandoned) 10Tamslo: Refactor DumpMetaInformation as pure value class, using DumpMetaInformationStore and DumpMetaInformationLookup [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207113 (owner: 10Tamslo) [14:54:02] (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Fix for older php versions. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207118 [14:55:54] (03CR) 10Tamslo: [C: 032 V: 032] Fix for older php versions. [extensions/WikidataQualityExternalValidation] (v1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207118 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag) [14:56:54] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] "Sorry, but I do not fully understand. What is the argument to stop supporting this backwards compatibility thingy?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206851 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:15:53] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032 V: 032] "Same as before." [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207055 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [16:00:12] 10Wikidata: Fix HHVM on Travis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97424#1241880 (10daniel) 3NEW [16:00:53] 10Wikidata: Fix HHVM on Travis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97424#1241894 (10daniel) [16:01:11] 10Wikidata: Fix HHVM on Travis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97424#1241897 (10daniel) a:3JanZerebecki [16:16:43] will google be taking information from wikidata for serp graphs? [16:28:47] 10Wikidata: JSON should (optionally) contain expanded/normalized values. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89005#1242003 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) We had a team-internal discussion on this topic today. Following there is the outcome of this meeting: We pretty much agreed on these points: * Dumps: have normalized and o... [16:29:11] 10Wikidata: JSON should (optionally) contain expanded/normalized values. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89005#1242004 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [16:47:06] marshall: does this aynwer your question?: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:FAQ/Freebase#By_adding_to_Wikidata.2C_I_have_a_free_ticket_into_Google.27s_Knowledge_Graph.2C_right.3F [16:48:31] jzerebecki: Yeah that is what I assumed. I just cant believe freebase had such an impact on the serp [16:55:43] hmmm populating subscriptions is super insanely slow [17:08:36] marshall: what do you mean? I thought freebase was universally considered a knowledge graph in nuce [17:33:44] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10MediaWiki-Unit-tests: Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'MWContentSerializationException' when running core phpunit tests, with wikibase repo installed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97416#1242279 (10Umherirrender) [17:38:52] hmm... no hoo, no DanielK_WMDE :( [17:39:00] Lydia_WMDE: around? [17:41:37] Nemo_bisGoogle used their information and actually favorited over other informative websites but they didnt always use everything from it. Any seo with freebase and wiki experience can tell you its a waiting game and a hit or miss as well. [17:42:54] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: populateChangesSubscription does insanely slow queries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97440#1242360 (10aude) [17:48:13] Hey Keegan, are you thinking about joining the Community Tools group? [17:55:14] Ah sure, Google is never going to give others direct control of their search results. :) [17:55:51] http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group/10-Mar-2011 [18:31:50] 10Wikidata: Fix HHVM on Travis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97424#1242660 (10aude) https://github.com/sebastianbergmann/phpunit/issues/1684 https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/issues/5215 the workaround that we used for Wikibase is to install phpunit via composer (see T95409) [18:55:08] (03Draft1) 10Aude: Add some (optional) verbosity to ChangesSubscriptionTableBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207171 [18:55:46] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add some (optional) verbosity to ChangesSubscriptionTableBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207171 (owner: 10Aude) [18:55:49] ah [18:57:12] (03PS2) 10Aude: Add some (optional) verbosity to ChangesSubscriptionTableBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207171 [19:04:55] [13Wikidata.org] 15JanZerebecki created 06css-load-position (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/vfphl [19:04:55] 13Wikidata.org/06css-load-position 1403abb29 15Jan Zerebecki: Explicitly define module position... [19:05:15] [13Wikidata.org] 15JanZerebecki opened pull request #22: Explicitly define module position (06master...06css-load-position) 02http://git.io/vfphz [19:05:50] (03Abandoned) 10JanZerebecki: Explicitly define module position [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97410) (owner: 10Gilles) [19:08:45] [13Wikidata.org] 15filbertkm closed pull request #22: Explicitly define module position (06master...06css-load-position) 02http://git.io/vfphz [19:08:55] jzerebecki: suppose we need to tag the component now [19:09:00] or wait, we use master :o [19:09:27] nevermind [19:09:44] thx [19:10:26] we do want to tag property suggester though [19:10:47] actually think it's required for jenkins to approve the deployment build etc [19:11:13] * aude will do in a bit [19:16:04] * hoo waves [19:17:53] hi hoo [19:18:11] hi nikki [19:18:22] if you start a conversation anywhere about the website account property, I'd be interested in following it [19:24:40] hoo: Did someone break the file lookup logic on Wikidata? :-( [19:26:56] multichill: What exactly do you mean? The suggestion when adding a commons meta data statement? [19:27:12] Exactly. File:bla bla.jpg [20:16:29] I see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/201700/ is marked as merged, does that mean it should be fixed on wikidata.org now? I'm wondering if my value field getting stuck with a spinner issue is something else [20:18:07] nikki: Not deployed yet, I think. [20:18:11] ah [20:18:35] (You can see if something is deployed by clicking on "Included in", only master is listed so no) [20:19:08] I figured out how to reproduce the issue I have, anyway. it seems to happen if I select a property, tab backwards and then try to tab forwards again [20:19:25] Yes, navigating with keyboard it seems [20:19:39] what does that section say when something has been deployed? [20:21:54] wmf/1.25wmf23 or something like that [20:22:22] ah, ok [21:35:03] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/34b5ddc : Translation updater bot The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/60430921 [22:06:58] (03PS1) 10Aude: Base continuation on row id for populating subscriptions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207292 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97440) [22:07:21] (03Draft1) 10Aude: Fix variable name in ChangesSubscriptionTableBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207288 [22:08:43] (03PS2) 10Aude: Base continuation on row id for populating subscriptions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207292 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97440) [22:14:46] aude: How'd the deploy go? [22:19:20] hoo: check your mail [22:19:26] and review! [22:19:50] no subscription tracking, but think i'll start on the usage tracking part after eating dinner [22:20:19] since it can work without subscriptions for now [22:20:47] Ok, I can do some code review... I slept earlier today, so wont make it into bed anytime soon anyway [22:20:51] ok :) [22:21:07] i'll also make the branch [22:54:52] Are you all aware that Beta Cluster is broken, and giving Wikidata-related errors? [22:55:10] E.g. any page (http://test.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Random) on test says: [22:55:10] No, we're not [22:55:13] well, I'm not [22:55:15] will look [22:55:18] "(Cannot access the database: Unknown database 'testwikidatawiki' (10.68.17.94))" [22:55:37] oh, dzh [22:55:38] * duh [22:55:49] hoo, and http://en.wikinews.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page consistently fatals for me. [22:56:03] uh :/ [22:56:23] Filed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97485?workflow=create already for the second. [22:56:52] Thanks, will poke [22:56:59] Thanks [23:12:35] matt_flaschen: For some reason both problems seem to have gone now [23:13:11] hoo, http://en.wikinews.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page is still broken for me. [23:13:36] Now it's not working for me again, weird [23:14:26] hoo, also, the script I'm testing (why I want Beta to work to begin with ;) ) is also failing with the same error: [23:14:58] hoo: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P569 [23:15:25] Ok, very weird [23:15:45] I guess the sites table is incomplete [23:16:04] It is [23:16:05] easy to fix [23:16:39] Does it work now? [23:16:45] mysql> INSERT INTO sites (SELECT * FROM wikidatawiki.sites); [23:18:30] matt_flaschen: ^ [23:20:38] hoo, http://en.wikinews.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page is still failing for me. [23:20:51] ooooh [23:20:54] what is wrong? [23:21:09] matt_flaschen: Could be that it's because it's cached [23:21:16] also new sites need to be added to the sites table [23:21:19] will poke more [23:21:27] aude: Sites tables are incomplete/ empty [23:21:43] Also I fixed another issue for bet aonly (just deployed) [23:21:54] hoo, no, it's a different code every time (the beginning of the second line). [23:22:09] hm [23:22:23] matt_flaschen: What do you mean? [23:22:35] matt_flaschen: I mean the sites are cached in memcached [23:22:42] so populating the table is not enough [23:22:44] Oh, okay. [23:23:02] aude: Does the population script work for beta? [23:23:10] it should [23:23:10] Or will it break horribly? [23:23:12] Ok [23:23:17] I'll make a backup of the table and try [23:23:20] :) [23:23:46] Btw, why have a candy bowl for CR when you can have a cat bowl? http://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/04/29/a84b46c2e8e6a554.webm [23:24:19] haha