[01:45:41] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Batch multiple entity-changes in one request - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75319#1196566 (10Ricordisamoa) Flooding page histories is not a solution, I think {T67846} should be implemented instead. [01:52:58] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Order of aliases and descriptions in the header should be switched around - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93209#1196585 (10Ricordisamoa) [01:59:02] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Implement new Wikibase Skin - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75653#1196591 (10Ricordisamoa) Declined per T75652#1103810? [02:00:24] 10Wikidata: Adjust AuthorityControl Gadget to snakview name changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87858#1196593 (10Ricordisamoa) [02:02:45] 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015, 3Outreachy-Round-10: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1196598 (10Nicolas_Raoul) @NiharikaKohli I already had an account (nicolas_raoul) so I have sent a connection... [04:31:58] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Epic, 7JavaScript: Create and document a stable framework for extending the Wikibase UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95649#1196783 (10Ricordisamoa) 3NEW [04:32:59] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Tracking: Redesign Item UI for Wikidata repo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54136#1196792 (10Ricordisamoa) [04:33:02] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Epic, 7JavaScript: Create and document a stable framework for extending the Wikibase UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95649#1196783 (10Ricordisamoa) [07:12:47] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 5ContentTranslation-Release5, 7Design, 3LE-Sprint-85: When creating a new page, suggest doing a translation instead - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88600#1196886 (10Arrbee) a:3Amire80 [07:13:31] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 5ContentTranslation-Release5, 7Design, 3LE-Sprint-85: When creating a new page, suggest doing a translation instead - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88600#1196888 (10santhosh) @pginer-WMF, Can't we show this CTA only when we have some confidence... [07:16:18] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch comment on pull request #68 14cce367d: Very good question. Never really noticed. Actually there is a convention also checked by rubocop saying that regexp literals should be paranthesized. We deactivated that check. ... 02http://git.io/veN8m [07:17:09] good morning Lydia_WMDE :D [07:17:26] good morning benestar :) [07:17:29] and everyone else [07:28:18] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch pushed 1 new commit to 06monolingual_T88546: 02http://git.io/veNRk [07:28:18] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06monolingual_T88546 14e212c44 15WMDE-Fisch: adding brackets [07:32:02] hoo: hey, missed you yesterday ;P [07:33:53] hehe... what's up? :) [07:39:53] hoo: can you do a quick review of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Bene*/popupsfix.js [07:40:04] i will make this popups fix a default hidden gadget then [07:40:20] so we finally have nice popups on Wikidata as well [07:44:20] fakedRe.query.pages[0].revisions = re.query.pages[pageId].revisions; [07:44:24] Why is that needed? [07:45:03] Oh I see [07:45:15] We pass the whole thing to popups, nevermind [07:46:07] Looks good to me at a glance :) +1 [07:46:22] Would be nice to have that in Wikibase, though, I guess [07:46:29] perhaps [07:46:47] would be even nicer to do this without hacking into the extension's javascript code ... [07:47:07] Didn't we introduce some form of handling for that a long time ago? [07:47:58] hoo: i submitted a patch and got no response for several months -.- [07:48:09] on popups extension [07:48:31] I vaguely remember something like that [07:48:44] ah https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150731 [07:49:24] hoo: I reference you in the change summary as reviewer, ok? [07:51:22] Sure, as no one opposed that change in so long I'm confident I can merge it by the time it has been rebased [07:52:02] Well, the style nit picks could also be addressed, but in general it should be fine [08:01:45] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 5ContentTranslation-Release5, 7Design, 3LE-Sprint-85: When creating a new page, suggest doing a translation instead - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88600#1196953 (10Pginer-WMF) @santhosh that is the idea of the design. I just included an alterna... [08:10:15] (03CR) 10Hoo man: Introduce EntityPrefetcher and PrefetchingWikiPageEntityMetaDataAccessor (0312 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181718 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87238) (owner: 10Hoo man) [08:19:50] (03PS1) 10Jonaskeutel: refactor constraintChecker [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203292 [08:19:52] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] refactor constraintChecker [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203292 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel) [08:25:27] (03PS13) 10Hoo man: Introduce EntityPrefetcher and PrefetchingWikiPageEntityMetaDataAccessor [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181718 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87238) [08:26:39] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Addressed Daniel's comments, added tests for the behavior in the cases where the MapCacheLRU is to small to handle everything." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181718 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87238) (owner: 10Hoo man) [08:30:16] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch created 06brackets_rubocop (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/veNXm [08:30:16] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06brackets_rubocop 14e8edb15 15WMDE-Fisch: adding brackets to fulfil coding conventions [08:34:08] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch opened pull request #69: adding brackets to fulfil coding conventions (06master...06brackets_rubocop) 02http://git.io/veN1o [08:43:03] (03CR) 10Aude: "I don't necessarily object to the change but note that these all have defaults (all are arrays), so should always be set. (if not explicit" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203089 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [08:44:09] (03CR) 10Aude: Do not fail hard if badgeItems setting is not set (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203089 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [08:50:33] (03CR) 10Tamslo: [V: 032] add changes for tests from github repo [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203033 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [08:50:44] (03CR) 10Tamslo: [C: 032] add changes for tests from github repo [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203033 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [08:56:23] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #68 14e212c44: Is there a convention and a automated check for having a newline at the end? Would be nice. 02http://git.io/veNHq [08:58:00] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15thiemowmde closed pull request #68: initial tests for monolingual property T88546 (06master...06monolingual_T88546) 02http://git.io/ve9k2 [09:01:24] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #69 14e8edb15: According to https://github.com/cucumber/cucumber/wiki/Given-When-Then you should not do this. I'm not sure how critical it is, probably technically irrelevant. 02http://git.io/veNQw [09:06:57] (03CR) 10Andreasburmeister: [C: 032 V: 031] check in to gerrit from Jonas + change database schema (031 comment) [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203044 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel) [09:06:59] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] check in to gerrit from Jonas + change database schema [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203044 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel) [09:07:51] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Tracking: Browsertests for currently used datavalues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55845#1197063 (10WMDE-Fisch) [09:07:54] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Browsertests for monolingual text value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88546#1197062 (10WMDE-Fisch) 5Open>3Resolved [09:08:45] 10Wikidata, 7Tracking: Wikidata Browsertests (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88541#1197066 (10WMDE-Fisch) [09:08:48] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: create browser tests to check editing and display of terms in EntityTermView - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95407#1197065 (10WMDE-Fisch) 5Open>3Resolved [09:12:57] (03PS3) 10Hoo man: Show labels in edit summaries on history/diff pages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201077 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55247) [09:14:18] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Added in process caching for whether we should try to convert links. Sadly I couldn't make that dependent on the request (whatever approac" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201077 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55247) (owner: 10Hoo man) [09:20:41] 10Wikidata: Use composer-merge-plugin to include Wikidata components in mediawiki-vendor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95663#1197083 (10aude) 3NEW [09:23:33] 10Wikidata: Use composer-merge-plugin to include Wikidata components in mediawiki-vendor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95663#1197095 (10aude) for myself, T94672 was caused by having WikibaseDataModel in two places, one apparently using master or a more recent version (which is the one that got used in my... [09:28:00] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Tracking: Redesign Item UI for Wikidata repo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54136#1197100 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [09:28:03] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Implement new Wikibase Skin - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75653#1197098 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher [09:30:27] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Allow the badgeItems setting to be null and not have a default [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203297 [09:32:27] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Failed asserting that 'Could not find such an entity id (The serialization "noANid" is not recognized by the configured id builders)' contains "is not valid". - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94672#1197112 (10aude) appar... [09:32:30] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Aude, my reason to touch these lines are the odd, unrelated errors I get in I50b3f63, e.g. https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203089 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:33:27] 10Wikidata: Use composer-merge-plugin to include Wikidata components in mediawiki-vendor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95663#1197083 (10aude) In the Wikidata entry point, we have: if ( !empty( $wmgUseWikibaseRepo ) ) { include_once __DI... [09:36:13] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix language fallback in value formatters [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203189 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94563) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [09:38:15] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "No objection, but I wonder: The description in T94563 does not match. This patch uses the static server side fall back chains, right? The " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203189 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94563) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [09:38:56] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch comment on pull request #69 14e8edb15: Hmm true. First thought you could use "I am logged in to the repo" in a "Given" and a "When" context. But thinking about it the "When" context only makes sense when called "I log in to the repo". ... 02http://git.io/veAvr [09:39:14] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Allow the badgeItems setting to be null and not have a default [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203297 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:45:23] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch 04force-pushed 06brackets_rubocop from 14e8edb15 to 14ba0892c: 02http://git.io/veAJw [09:45:23] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06brackets_rubocop 14ba0892c 15WMDE-Fisch: adding brackets to fulfil coding conventions [09:47:45] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Tracking: Introduce a "entity change subscription" service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73052#1197136 (10daniel) [09:47:48] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 3Roadmap, 7Tracking, 7notice: Track Wikidata entity usage on client pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49288#1197135 (10daniel) [09:47:51] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-24, 5Patch-For-Review, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Usage Tracking: change dispatcher should use the wb_changes_subscription table - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590#1197134 (10daniel) 5Open>3Resolved [09:52:20] Lydia_WMDE: will there be an edit mode for a whole "statement box" like there is for labels, descriptions and aliases already? [09:52:35] so you only click edit once and can edit all statements including references for one property? [10:01:46] (03PS1) 10Jonaskeutel: change parameter to json + refactor [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203301 [10:02:04] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-10T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203302 [10:04:01] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@thiemo: the ticket is about allowing fallback to work *somehow*. The UI currently doesn't have sufficient info to build a fallback chain," [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203189 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94563) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [10:04:55] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Support language fallbacks in wbformatvalue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94563#1197229 (10daniel) [10:07:21] (03CR) 10Andreasburmeister: [C: 032 V: 031] change parameter to json + refactor [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203301 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel) [10:07:39] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Support language fallbacks in wbformatvalue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94563#1197231 (10daniel) The patch above enabled language fallback without any extra options being present. Fallback is al... [10:07:57] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: change parameter to json + refactor [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203301 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel) [10:09:09] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Allow [special]SiteLinkGroups settings to be null and not have a default [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203304 [10:17:43] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Allow [special]SiteLinkGroups settings to be null and not have a default [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203304 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [10:23:15] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Make use of EntityPrefetcher in dumps, wbgetentities [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203306 [10:23:22] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make use of EntityPrefetcher in dumps, wbgetentities [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203306 (owner: 10Hoo man) [10:33:59] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "What this patch does is not wrong, but please note that it does not change any behavior in production. wbformatvalue API works as expected" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203189 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94563) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [10:40:46] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Prefetch labels on history pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95672#1197290 (10daniel) 3NEW a:3hoo [10:40:57] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Performance, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Prefetch labels on history pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95672#1197298 (10daniel) [10:42:58] 10Wikidata: Add support in WikidataBuildResources for install via composer-merge-plugin - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95673#1197303 (10aude) 3NEW a:3aude [10:43:48] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "Namespace check should go first (or explain why they shouldn't)" (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201077 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55247) (owner: 10Hoo man) [10:43:48] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15filbertkm created 06composermerge (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/veAWR [10:43:48] 13WikidataBuildResources/06composermerge 14aa868c7 15aude: Add (limited) support for install via composer-merge-plugin... [10:44:05] 10Wikidata: Add support in WikidataBuildResources for install via composer-merge-plugin - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95673#1197314 (10aude) [10:44:07] 10Wikidata: Use composer-merge-plugin to include Wikidata components in mediawiki-vendor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95663#1197313 (10aude) [10:45:08] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15filbertkm opened pull request #23: Add (limited) support for install via composer-merge-plugin (06master...06composermerge) 02http://git.io/veAWS [10:45:57] 10Wikidata: Add support in WikidataBuildResources for install via composer-merge-plugin - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95673#1197303 (10aude) [10:47:26] * aude is doing https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95673 [10:47:36] which is my pull request for now [10:47:42] it's not listed on the sprint board [10:47:55] aha [10:48:24] 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Add support in WikidataBuildResources for install via composer-merge-plugin - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95673#1197326 (10aude) [10:48:40] * aude should be careful not to add the sprint as a subscriber :o [10:50:00] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #23 14aa868c7: I suggest to move this line to the top of the `if`, just as in the other file, for readability. 02http://git.io/veA8t [11:07:10] 10Wikidata, 6Search-Team, 10Wikidata-Query-Service, 5Patch-For-Review: Fix representation of somevalue and novalue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95441#1197350 (10JanZerebecki) Should it then state something like: bnode a SomeValue. [11:39:34] (03Abandoned) 10Jonaskeutel: check in to gerrit from Jonas + change database schema [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203044 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel) [11:39:53] (03Abandoned) 10Jonaskeutel: refactor constraintChecker [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203292 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel) [11:40:13] (03Abandoned) 10Jonaskeutel: change prefix of constraints table to wdqa [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203075 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel) [11:42:33] (03Abandoned) 10Jonaskeutel: Cross-check and constraint report special pages should be working, tests uncomplete, but the existing ones should run [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/194509 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel) [11:46:59] (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Fixed LanguageLabelLookup bug occurring with latest Wikibase version. [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203311 [11:48:13] (03CR) 10Jonaskeutel: [C: 032 V: 031] Fixed LanguageLabelLookup bug occurring with latest Wikibase version. [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203311 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag) [11:49:19] (03CR) 10Jonaskeutel: [V: 032] Fixed LanguageLabelLookup bug occurring with latest Wikibase version. [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203311 (owner: 10Soeren.oldag) [12:27:31] (03PS1) 10Jonaskeutel: minor changes following hints from scrutinizer [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203314 [12:31:28] (03PS1) 10Dominic.sauer: add tests for SpecialConstraintReport [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203315 [12:39:11] (03CR) 10Dominic.sauer: [C: 032 V: 031] minor changes following hints from scrutinizer [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203314 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel) [12:39:35] (03CR) 10Dominic.sauer: [V: 032] minor changes following hints from scrutinizer [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203314 (owner: 10Jonaskeutel) [12:47:29] (03CR) 10Jonaskeutel: [C: 032 V: 032] "maybe: use qqx + edge cases" [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203315 (owner: 10Dominic.sauer) [12:58:47] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Introduce EntityPrefetcher and PrefetchingWikiPageEntityMetaDataAccessor (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181718 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87238) (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:01:54] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "To rephrase my question: do we really need to output all that always, even in modes that don't use complex statements or expanded values?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202461 (owner: 10Smalyshev) [13:06:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Introduce EntityPrefetcher and PrefetchingWikiPageEntityMetaDataAccessor [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181718 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87238) (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:09:16] (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Make use of EntityPrefetcher in dumps, wbgetentities [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203306 [13:09:36] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Manually rebased" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203306 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:09:57] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: separate identifiers from other statements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95287#1197643 (10Lydia_Pintscher) We discussed this some more today and decided to go with a new datatype. The UI will separate identifiers out based on this datatype. This is... [13:11:24] 10Wikidata: Provide Authority Control within an extension functionality instead of a gadget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93766#1197651 (10Lydia_Pintscher) I am going to close this one in favor of {{T95287}}. This covers what is wanted in this ticket. [13:11:37] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Performance, and 2 others: Implement an EntityPrefetcher that would take a list of entity ids and preload revision meta data about them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87238#1197656 (10hoo) 5Open>3Resolved [13:11:39] 10Wikidata, 7Tracking: Authority Control gadget tracking bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93762#1197655 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [13:11:41] 10Wikidata: Provide Authority Control within an extension functionality instead of a gadget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93766#1197653 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3Invalid a:3Lydia_Pintscher [13:12:44] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: create new datatype for identifiers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95682#1197660 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 3NEW [13:13:22] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: add a new datatype for identifiers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95682#1197673 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [13:14:08] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, 7Tracking: Adding new datatypes to Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91505#1197677 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [13:14:11] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: add a new datatype for identifiers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95682#1197660 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [13:14:34] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, 7Tracking: Adding new datatypes to Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91505#1088336 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [13:14:36] 10Wikidata: Provide Authority Control within an extension functionality instead of a gadget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93766#1197680 (10aude) does T95287 cover aspects of authority control gadget like linking coordinates? [13:14:53] 10Wikidata: Provide Authority Control within an extension functionality instead of a gadget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93766#1197681 (10aude) and all the formatting for the data type? [13:18:48] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: new formatter to format identifiers as URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95684#1197684 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 3NEW [13:20:09] 10Wikibase-DataModel, 7Schema-change: Drop wb_entity_per_page table - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95685#1197698 (10daniel) [13:21:23] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: write a maintenance script to migrate properties from string to new identifier datatype - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95686#1197700 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 3NEW [13:23:38] [13Time] 15brightbyte pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/vexm7 [13:23:38] 13Time/06master 1456f972c 15Daniel Kinzler: Merge pull request #27 from DataValues/redone... [13:23:38] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "i merged the patch on github" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186791 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87574) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:28:28] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "If this is only removed temporarily to be re-added later, perhaps just comment out the code, or at least put a big TODO there." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203018 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95532) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:28:58] (03PS1) 10Soeren.oldag: Added HtmlTableCell class that supports spanned cells. Moved html generation from HtmlTable class to HtmlTableHeader and HtmlTableCell classes. [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203320 [13:29:09] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Use an EntityPrefetcher in ItemsPerSiteBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203321 [13:32:21] (03PS2) 10Soeren.oldag: HtmlTable now supports spanned cells. [extensions/WikidataQuality] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203320 [13:33:13] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 031] "Code looks good... does this need a deploy note?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:35:29] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "oh, indeed it does. will add in a second." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:35:31] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "> just comment out the code, or at least put a big TODO there." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203018 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95532) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:36:57] 10Wikidata, 7I18n: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is not needed in English - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553#1197738 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [13:36:58] (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Hook up subscription lookup based on settings. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590) [13:38:09] 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Comparison of the existing Wikidata RDF dumps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95316#1197744 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High [13:38:24] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: browser tests for old revisions of Wikibase item pages to check there are no edit links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95406#1197745 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [13:40:41] 10Wikidata, 7I18n: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is not needed in English - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553#1197752 (10daniel) In english, the period should not be omitted, but could be replaced by 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 10th, etc. Just using "6 century" isn't correct. Se... [13:41:09] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Quality: Insert empty divs in statements as a placeholder on item and property pages to be able to insert icons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95403#1197760 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [13:41:43] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata: Other projects sidebar should have ability to include commons category links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94989#1197763 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [13:44:09] (03CR) 10Aude: "not entirely happy with the setting value" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:45:54] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Regression: #Babel no longer functions in Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94835#1197769 (10Lydia_Pintscher) Can you please try to remove the autopatroller part of the babel template and see if this fixes it? [13:45:54] (03CR) 10Aude: Hook up subscription lookup based on settings. (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:46:19] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Hook up subscription lookup based on settings. (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:46:44] 10Wikidata, 7I18n, 5Patch-For-Review: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is not needed in English - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553#1197773 (10thiemowmde) The message is not "6 century". It's `"$1. century"`. This is a bug, already fixed by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#... [13:46:49] (03CR) 10Aude: Hook up subscription lookup based on settings. (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:47:58] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata: Fix "Unknown dependency: jquery.ui.EditableTemplatedWidget" error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94589#1197778 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [13:48:51] (03CR) 10Aude: Hook up subscription lookup based on settings. (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:48:53] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Hook up subscription lookup based on settings. (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:49:35] aude: we may have "remote" subascriptions, for instance, that get notifications via http or xmpp. [13:49:56] :/ [13:52:52] (03Abandoned) 10JanZerebecki: New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-09T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203015 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [13:53:43] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-10T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203302 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [13:56:49] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Hook up subscription lookup based on settings. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:01:30] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-10T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203302 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [14:07:32] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15JanZerebecki created 06autoloader-optimize (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/vexgw [14:07:32] 13WikidataBuildResources/06autoloader-optimize 1431c9cc3 15Jan Zerebecki: Enable optimization of composer autoloader... [14:07:57] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] "Many things that call getRevisionId() do not handle 0 well, no matter what the docs say. That's what worries me." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202466 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90893) (owner: 10Aude) [14:09:11] (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Avoid static access to global settings object where possible. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203025 [14:10:13] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15JanZerebecki opened pull request #24: Enable optimization of composer autoloader (06master...06autoloader-optimize) 02http://git.io/vex2b [14:11:23] aude: https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources/pull/24 ? [14:11:30] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Feature switch for using subscription mechanism for change propagation. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88419#1197833 (10daniel) [14:11:33] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-24, 5Patch-For-Review, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Usage Tracking: change dispatcher should use the wb_changes_subscription table - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590#1197832 (10daniel) [14:12:05] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Allow the badgeItems setting to be null and not have a default [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203297 [14:12:07] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Allow [special]SiteLinkGroups settings to be null and not have a default [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203304 [14:12:58] [13Time] 15brightbyte 04deleted 06redone at 14c4f3513: 02http://git.io/vexV8 [14:13:23] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-24, 5Patch-For-Review, and 2 others: Wrong time parsing of ISO dates with day 00 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87574#1197841 (10daniel) I merged the pull request on github, and gave a +2 on gerrit. But before the chang... [14:14:09] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hook up subscription lookup based on settings. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66590) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:16:07] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-24, 5Patch-For-Review, and 2 others: Wrong time parsing of ISO dates with day 00 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87574#1197881 (10daniel) a:5thiemowmde>3Tobi_WMDE_SW [14:16:20] Thiemo_WMDE: could you amend your nitpik on https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources/pull/23 then i'd test and merge it [14:17:41] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15filbertkm comment on commit 1431c9cc3: we set this in the deployment branches, and pretty sure we would still override this... so ok :) 02http://git.io/vexrP [14:18:19] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15filbertkm 04deleted 06autoloader-optimize at 1431c9cc3: 02http://git.io/vexot [14:27:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix revision id used for EntityTermsView placeholder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202466 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90893) (owner: 10Aude) [14:36:06] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Use an EntityPrefetcher in ItemsPerSiteBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203321 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:37:10] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Investigation: "other languages" box shows older revision unless one purges page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90893#1197977 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3Resolved [14:41:23] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-10T14:40:08+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203340 [14:43:39] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "Looks good, some minor things" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203306 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:46:51] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-2] "We define defaults in a central place, effectively making (nearly) all settings optional. We have no notion of optional parameters otherwi" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203089 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:47:20] Thiemo_WMDE: it only blew up because the mock value was incomplete. this cannot happen in a production setup, because in production, default values apply [14:47:46] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-10T14:40:08+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203340 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [14:49:35] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "How is that an argument? You are arguing like I removed the default setting, which I did not and do not plan to do. Why should it be forbi" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203089 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:54:33] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-10T14:40:08+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203340 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [14:56:09] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Implement Unit Selector widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77982#1198051 (10Lydia_Pintscher) We have to find a better way than having each user maintain a list of their preferred units. This is already causing a lot... [14:58:26] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Simplify StringNormalizer regex [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203112 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:59:02] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Rename SiteLinkLookup::getEntityIdForSiteLink to getItemIdForSiteLink [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202715 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:59:54] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Easy: EntityIdValues should be serialized as strings, not type/number structures. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56085#1198054 (10Lydia_Pintscher) Sorry for taking so long to reply to you Sumit. I don't know why this was tagged easy. This is a rat... [15:00:02] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: EntityIdValues should be serialized as strings, not type/number structures. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56085#1198056 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [15:02:23] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "If an installation doesn't want badges, it just doesn't define the setting. The default is array()." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203089 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:03:51] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "I strongly disagree that null is an "error"." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203089 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:05:01] DanielK_WMDE: Lydia_WMDE https://old-bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54085 :) [15:05:28] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Simplify StringNormalizer regex [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203112 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:15:07] aude: Do you have any hints concerning https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95546 ? [15:15:22] So, is WD:NPA a policy or not? The page says it is, but https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_policies_and_guidelines says 'proposed' [15:24:40] dennyvrandecic: there is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/User_conduct_policies#Personal_attacks so some form of WD:NPA is policy, but not necessarily that wording. see also https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/User_conduct_policies#Personal_attacks_and_harassment [15:25:38] CFisch_home: maybe ask to be added in the wmde ldap group in phabricator [15:25:44] ops-access-requests [15:25:58] and cc me and jzerebecki [15:27:56] jzerebecki: I see the RFC but is there anywhere the resulting policy page? [15:29:05] thanks for the link, too, jzerebecki [15:29:39] DanielK_WMDE: regarding "A" as a subset of "letter" is as interesting as regarding "Germany" as a subset of "country" [15:30:15] dennyvrandecic: i don't think any updates to policy pages happened as a result from that RFC, but if in doubt I would say the RFC wording is binding. [15:33:38] (03CR) 10Bene: [C: 04-2] "Hardcoding defaults wtf? As aude mentioned, the default is already an empty array so if the setting is not set explicitely it is an empty " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203089 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:37:12] (03PS1) 10Aude: Lazy initialize db connection in SqlIdGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203353 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94030) [15:46:33] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Lazy initialize db connection in SqlIdGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203353 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94030) (owner: 10Aude) [15:50:06] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: batch deletions in pruneChanges script - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95707#1198176 (10aude) 3NEW [15:50:15] DanielK_WMDE: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95707 :) [15:50:18] do you want to do that [15:50:31] otherwise suppose i look [15:51:38] (03PS1) 10Bene: Always reset the badgeItems setting in tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203355 [15:51:46] (03PS2) 10Aude: Lazy initialize db connection in SqlIdGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203353 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94030) [15:54:13] (03CR) 10Aude: "@note: i tried splitting this up into more separate methods (like in the if/else) block but wasn't pretty and nice." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203353 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94030) (owner: 10Aude) [15:54:29] dennyvrandecic: i don't see how you could have the nice insanity around trying to find clear semantics for A happening with Germany. With A I could talk/research about it for hours... [15:56:59] Lydia_WMDE: can https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95707 be in the sprint? [15:57:05] either me, daniel or someone can do it [15:57:11] probably easily [15:57:30] i think we put wikidata into read only at least once because of this [15:57:46] dennyvrandecic: "Germany" is a concept that is a little vague. It's clearly an instance. "A" is different, in so far as it depends entirely on your perspective on whetehr it's an instance or a class. Is "AAA" three "A"s? Are all thre the same instance? Or three instances of the same class? How about A and a? Or A in different typefaces? Or Scripts? [15:57:58] Lots of fun with semantics can be had there [15:57:59] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: batch deletions in pruneChanges script - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95707#1198222 (10aude) [15:59:23] DanielK_WMDE: not fogetting: one actual printed letter vs the letter that makes up a writing system [16:00:08] jzerebecki: yes, indeed [16:06:46] (03PS1) 10Aude: Use wfWaitForSlaves in EntityPerPageBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203362 [16:07:16] "Germany" can also be a class [16:08:16] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Always reset the badgeItems setting in tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203355 (owner: 10Bene) [16:08:24] It could be the class with instances "Nazi-Germany", "Roman Holy Empire of Germany", "German Democratic Republic", and "Federal Republic of Germany" [16:08:52] "Germany" could also be the set of all land that is administered by the Government of Germany [16:09:04] there are plenty of views on Germany being a set [16:10:11] it is the same thing for A. Just because there is an interpretation where it is a set, jzerebecki DanielK_WMDE [16:13:22] (03PS2) 10Aude: Use wfWaitForSlaves instead of our own thing [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203362 [16:21:14] dennyvrandecic: yes one can certainly also talk/research about it for hours. speech even has distinct names for these. and Q183 is only the Federal Republic of Germany. including the facet land that it administers. but no examples you gave leads me to think Germany is a subclass of country instead of instance. now part of why I think that is more confusing is because I did not need to look anything of this up regarding germany. [16:22:03] but regarding letters I would e.g. need to look up what exactly a grapheme is... [16:22:32] do you have examples that would lead to Germany subclass of country? [16:22:35] jzerebecki: what I am saying is that there is an interpretation where Germany is a subclass of country, although I would not consider that the usual interpretation [16:22:57] Germany = set of all land administered by the government of Germany [16:23:06] country = set of all land administered by a country [16:23:13] Germany subclassof country [16:23:58] Nazi-Germany + Federal Republic of Germany together would be subclass of country [16:25:14] sure, that is also a possible interpretation, and a much more likely one [16:26:12] (03PS2) 10Anomie: Update ApiResult handling for mediawiki/core change I7b37295e [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197383 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073) [16:29:50] jzerebecki: but I have you an absolute valid interpretation under which germany is a subset of country, and not an instance [16:30:22] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Update ApiResult handling for mediawiki/core change I7b37295e [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197383 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073) (owner: 10Anomie) [16:35:37] dennyvrandecic: the set of all land interpration is an example of set of sets (when interpreting country' the land mass as facet of country instead of recursive definition) which still does not lead to germany being a subclass of either. as it is a set of land but not a set of country administering a set of land, because and administrative subdivision is not a country. [16:39:22] jzerebecki: no, my interpretation was "country = the set of lan administered by a country", in which case "germany" is a subset of that. country is, in this interpretation, not a set of sets, but the union of germany, france, etc. [16:40:09] this is pretty much the analog interpretation to the letters example, if A is regarded as a subset of letter [16:42:26] right the smallest part of a class is still a class. not an instance. the instance/class thing for real world stuff is still regularly confusing me. [16:45:48] jzerebecki: yes, the stuff is confusing. this is why I spent far too much time on this discussion on the project chat [16:45:59] guess I taught this stuff for too long :) [16:46:51] (03PS1) 10Aude: Batch deletions in pruneChanges script [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203371 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95707) [16:47:26] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "in a follow up, this code should be split out of the maintenance script and tests added" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203371 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95707) (owner: 10Aude) [18:02:08] (03CR) 10Smalyshev: "Not a real lot, we don't have that many properties. Also, we do not always output property entities - we only do that in the following cas" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/202461 (owner: 10Smalyshev) [18:10:40] 10Wikidata, 6Search-Team, 10Wikidata-Query-Service, 5Patch-For-Review: Fix representation of somevalue and novalue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95441#1198849 (10Smalyshev) @JanZerebecki not sure what would be the point of it. The mere fact that it is a bnode - which you can check for in SPARQL - me... [18:45:14] no hoo today? :( [18:56:58] !admin [18:57:08] dennyvrandecic: hi [18:58:36] I am to layz to build a case against IP-80. etc., but I feel that his behavior is not fully helpful towards building a friendly and productive community [18:58:46] is there anything that can be done? [18:59:41] dennyvrandecic: pm me the details and I can take a look I guess about it [19:02:18] in particular, although there is an ongoing discussion about it, his removal of instance of:letter on, well, every letter [19:30:35] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: edit links are displayed on old revisions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95405#1199320 (10aude) p:5Triage>3Unbreak! [19:31:19] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: batch deletions in pruneChanges script - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95707#1199326 (10aude) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:35:47] 10Wikidata, 6Search-Team, 10Wikidata-Query-Service, 5Patch-For-Review: Fix representation of somevalue and novalue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95441#1199337 (10JanZerebecki) OK [19:59:58] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15JanZerebecki closed pull request #23: Add (limited) support for install via composer-merge-plugin (06master...06composermerge) 02http://git.io/veAWS [20:01:40] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-10T20:00:33+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203456 [20:06:04] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-10T20:00:33+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203456 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [20:07:43] 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Sprint-2015-04-07: Add support in WikidataBuildResources for install via composer-merge-plugin - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95673#1199559 (10JanZerebecki) Merged https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources/pull/23 and used for build for Beta first in https://gerrit.wikimedia.o... [20:16:24] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 2015-04-10T20:00:33+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203456 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [21:05:26] hmm, shouldn't P1324 be qualified with a "version control system" property, at least when that isn't covered by the URL scheme? [21:05:27] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw closed pull request #421: Return null rather than false in StatementList::getIndexByGuid (06master...06nullfalse) 02http://git.io/j1Nm [21:05:27] Got a nice box to the office today: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidataflyers_i_l%C3%A5da.jpg [21:05:27] w00t [21:05:27] Does the !admin command make the JohnFLewis appear? [21:05:27] also why the heck doesn't it let me fill in svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/opencity/code/trunk ... [21:05:27] Oh noes, there is the other evil person! [21:05:27] JeroenDeDauw: yes :P [21:08:09] !admin [21:08:09] !admin [21:08:09] * JeroenDeDauw waits for two JohnFLewis to appear [21:08:12] JeroenDeDauw: that's annoying for other admin as well [21:08:20] ... [21:08:23] Oh... :( [21:08:31] How can I make it annoying just for you? [21:08:37] Ainali: is that flyer also available in english? [21:08:42] JohnFLewis perhaps? [21:08:49] JohnFLewis: sure [21:08:58] that's it [21:09:03] \o/ [21:09:19] just keep in mind, annoy me too much and I can kick you from the channel :) [21:10:40] SamB_laptop: currently there are only few supported url schemas afaik [21:10:49] including http(s) ftp and mailto [21:11:10] JohnFLewis: *insert smart sounding remark about hydras and regrowing heads* [21:11:22] * SamB_laptop wonders why P1324 is using the URI datatype, then [21:11:34] :p [21:11:43] SamB_laptop: you can file a bug to include svn scheme as well [21:15:09] should perhaps also have bzr, git, ssh, and I think some VCS+PROTOCOL schemes ... I guess we don't care about CVS at all? [21:16:28] SamB_laptop: if you weant it easier for us to add more schemes, supply a regular expression for validating such urls. or at least a pointer to the spec [21:17:06] i'm a bit dubious about allowing all kinds of protocols. mediawiki is fairly restriuctive aboiut this in wikitext, and there are probably reasons for that [21:17:27] DanielK_WMDE: well, you aren't supposed to CLICK on VCS URLs anyway [21:17:43] maybe the property should have just been a string [21:17:55] SamB_laptop: then maybe they should not be using the URL data type, but string. [21:18:06] indeed [21:18:35] and maybe it would have been clearer to call that data type "href" insteasd of "url" [21:21:05] (Sure, some VCS servers are clever and provide a web UI and a VCS-readable repository at the same URL, but I don't know if any VCS actually *ships* with such a server) [21:21:14] https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-update-databases-eqiad/label=deployment-bastion-eqiad,wikidb=kowiki/8825/console [21:21:22] Catchable fatal error: Object of class Closure could not be converted to string in /mnt/srv/mediawiki-staging/wmf-config/Wikibase.php on line 184 [21:21:34] DanielK_WMDE: how impossible is it to change the datatype of an existing property from URI to string? [21:21:54] benestar: No, not exactly that one. It is based on this one though: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_en.pdf [21:23:03] SamB_laptop: quite impossible :P [21:23:10] (03PS3) 10Anomie: Update ApiResult handling for mediawiki/core change I7b37295e [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197383 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073) [21:23:12] Ainali: thanks for the link [21:23:14] benestar: The version in the picture has some slight variation for a target group of researchers [21:23:46] nice flyer :) [21:26:37] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Update ApiResult handling for mediawiki/core change I7b37295e [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197383 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073) (owner: 10Anomie) [21:37:50] SamB_laptop: it's not currently possible. but from url to string could be done in theory, we'd have to write a script for it. [21:37:55] DanielK_WMDE: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/lintian/lintian.git/tree/checks/fields.pm#n193 has some regexes for various VCSes' [bastardizations of] URLs [21:38:43] unfortunately many of them would need to be merged to match the union ... [21:43:46] What's the consensus about this? https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q8258&curid=9552&diff=209918933&oldid=208316316 [21:44:27] sjoerddebruin: is the author known? [21:44:47] Well, no. But see the previous value. [21:45:44] sjoerddebruin: unknown is probably better imho [21:45:51] ok [21:46:21] * SamB_laptop wonders if 0 is an instance of "natural number (Q21199)" [21:49:53] well, not if the OEIS id is uniquely correct [21:52:28] AFAIK if it's known there's a value but not known what it is, "unknown value" is exactly what should be used [21:52:56] otherwise, two books authored by unknown author would show up as authored by the same person. which is not good [21:53:42] if using special "unkown value", it can have different semantics [22:08:11] SamB_laptop: that would depend on which definition of natural numbers you use... [22:08:53] SMalyshev: I know, I know; and of course we never chose ... [22:10:00] stupid "no wikidata items for redirects" plan ... [22:22:52] ... did someone just fix hovercards? [22:24:30] SamB_laptop: it seems so! [22:25:31] I wish they worked in the (main)/Property namespaces ... [22:28:26] hmm, still a bit missing: it doesn't show the label, or work in item/property namespaces [22:36:48] 10Wikidata, 10Hovercards, 10TextExtracts: Popup/Hover on Wikidata Q pages shows plain /* 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 10Hovercards, 7Need-volunteer, 5Patch-For-Review: Make Hovercards work on Wikidata item links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69434#1199985 (10SamB) Well, it seems to //mostly// work all of a sudden (any idea why?); it just needs to include the... [22:39:02] * SamB_laptop awards a heart to T69434 [22:59:39] Was the #wikidata project in Phabricator intentionally edited to have a Team icon and being a sprint now? Breaks https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/sprint/ ... [22:59:49] (by Josve05a) [23:01:36] * andre__ reverts