[01:33:17] <nikki>	 Alphos: I'm referring to the linked data section of the page, not the mediawiki api section. the list of formats they support appears to be different
[10:00:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 2015-03-22T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198545 
[10:05:53] <wm-bot>	 Change on 12meta_wikimedia a page Wikidata was modified, changed by Brackenheim link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=11650195 edit summary: [+39] add tvar
[10:06:03] <wm-bot>	 Change on 12meta_wikimedia a page Wikidata was modified, changed by Brackenheim link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=0 edit summary: 
[13:46:25] <Omega_>	 Is it possible to filter claims when calling wbgetentities?
[13:49:00] <hoo>	 Omega_: No, wbgetclaims allows that, but it only works on a single entity
[13:49:17] <Omega_>	 Darn! Trying to minimize the number of requests I make...
[13:49:21] <Omega_>	 (as well as the amount of data I fetch back)
[13:49:31] <Omega_>	 But I guess I'll just pick out the desired bits on my end.
[13:49:39] <hoo>	 Yeah, that makes sense.. we stumbled upon this problem before
[13:50:06] <Omega_>	 Out of curiosity, while I'm planning things - what's the generally accepted rule on frequency of queries to wikidata?
[13:50:21] <Omega_>	 For example, if I was going to use it to power an entity search.
[13:50:38] <Omega_>	 Although I was hoping to use my own server infrastructure to offset how often I actually hit wikidata.
[13:51:57] <Omega_>	 That said, it could still result in a decent number of queries.
[13:51:58] <hoo>	 Omega_: Usually it's fine if you don't do your requests in parallel or apply common sense. See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Etiquette
[13:52:27] <Omega_>	 I guess that's the concern.
[13:52:49] <hoo>	 How many requests/ minute would you be doing? 50? 100? 200? 1k?
[13:53:22] <Omega_>	 If the service does well? Each one over time ;)
[13:53:48] <Omega_>	 I'm definitely making effort now to mitigate, but without being too premature.
[13:54:09] <Omega_>	 So for example - if someone types in an exact string match, I won't hit wikidata.
[13:54:15] <Omega_>	 But if they don't, I'd like to supplement my data with wikidata.
[13:54:18] <hoo>	 1k in peak time should still be ok... but please make sure to set a proper user agent so that we can identify you, should there be problems
[13:54:31] <Omega_>	 Absolutely, already did that.  Includes runtime and library versions & all.
[13:55:12] <Omega_>	 Good info.  If ever this system became useful, I'd also not be opposed to playing any useful information back into wikidata (where applicable).
[13:55:19] <Omega_>	 But that's just fantasizing at this point.
[13:57:00] <hoo>	 Omega_: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93519 If you have a phabricator account, you can follow that
[13:57:10] <hoo>	 So that you'd be notified once we fix that.
[13:58:08] <Omega_>	 Nice.
[13:58:27] <Omega_>	 What would the difference be at that point between wbgetclaims and wbgetentities?
[13:58:37] <Omega_>	 Rephrased: Why not just add claim filtering to webgetentities?
[13:59:27] <hoo>	 Omega_: We could also do that, but I think that would be overengineering
[13:59:37] <Omega_>	 I'm thinking from the vantage of reducing overall requests to the service.
[13:59:46] <hoo>	 you can filter wbgetentities to only return statements already, but not filter by property it
[13:59:48] <hoo>	 * id
[13:59:50] <Omega_>	 (as time on the wire hurts the caller as much as it hurts you in marshalling)
[14:00:06] <Omega_>	 Yeah, property id filtering is what I mean here.
[14:00:22] <hoo>	 I think adding that to wbgetentities would make it to complex
[14:00:30] <hoo>	 but adding it to wbgetclaims should probably be easy
[14:01:07] <Omega_>	 That does make sense.
[14:01:23] <Omega_>	 I'll just pluck out only the properties I'm interested in, and then that way I don't have to make 3 requests.
[14:02:21] <hoo>	 nice :)
[14:02:28] <hoo|away>	 I'm away for a bit
[14:02:46] <Omega_>	 Thanks for the info!
[15:22:34] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: You in?
[15:22:41] <sjoerddebruin>	 I think...
[15:23:02] <multichill>	 Haha, I managed to claim about 10.000 items over the last couple of weeks
[15:23:15] <multichill>	 Current score is 42707
[15:23:44] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hm
[15:24:00] <multichill>	 Check out https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Multichill/Geen_claim
[15:24:18] <multichill>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclaims_nlwiki_infobox_full.txt turned out to be very useful
[15:25:43] <multichill>	 Still quite a bit of work
[15:28:13] <sjoerddebruin>	 I will focus on finding errors. :)
[15:28:22] <multichill>	 That's very helpful
[15:28:39] <multichill>	 https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Onderwijs&diff=prev&oldid=43677214 <- like wut?
[15:28:47] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yes, I saw.
[15:37:29] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: What's a good P31 for this one? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2479353
[15:37:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh wait, found: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15141321
[15:42:12] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: Hmm, didn't I tag those?
[15:42:20] <sjoerddebruin>	 See history.
[15:42:32] <sjoerddebruin>	 Due the page name it was classified as human.
[15:43:48] <multichill>	 I linked it to the "Erwt
[15:43:54] <multichill>	 "Erwt" guy
[15:44:10] <sjoerddebruin>	 ?
[15:44:39] <multichill>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel
[15:44:46] <multichill>	 Botanist, something with genetics
[15:45:12] <multichill>	 I went to a school named after him
[15:45:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, but I don't understand what you're trying to say.
[15:46:46] <multichill>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_inheritance#History <- Gregor Mendel worked with peas (Erwten) a lot
[15:47:09] <multichill>	 Train service was named after him
[15:54:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 Okay...
[15:54:22] <sjoerddebruin>	 Why did I miss this... https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q13427636&action=history
[16:24:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/index.php?language=nl&project=wikipedia&category=&depth=12&wdq=link%5Bnlwiki%5D%20and%20noclaim%5B31%5D%20and%20noclaim%5B279%5D%20and%20noclaim%5B361%5D%20and%20noclaim%5B641%5D&mode=undefined&statementlist=&run=Run&label_contains=&label_contains_not=&chunk_size=100 is still huge, lot of articles that are not so easy because of
[16:24:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 their categorization.
[16:25:23] * multichill looks
[16:42:41] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tim_Killiam&diff=43680076&oldid=43381228 -_-
[16:45:06] <multichill>	 https://rkd.nl/en/explore/artists/297873
[16:46:24] <sjoerddebruin>	 :)
[17:44:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Ebrahim: Better handling of bidi content on entity terms table [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198228 
[18:08:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Ebrahim: "I've explained reason of the changes for making review easier. Feel free to ask more about this if you have any concern, I will answer or " (037 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198228 (owner: 10Ebrahim)
[18:23:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 2015-03-13T20:26:25+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/196643 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[18:23:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 2015-03-18T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197492 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[18:23:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 2015-03-17T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197298 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[18:24:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 2015-03-19T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197876 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[19:00:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Needs rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190216 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[19:00:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move Store/Sql tests to correct directory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191013 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[19:00:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Needs rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187127 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[19:11:31] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: UI breaks on UnDeserializable value. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92975#1139395 (10Krenair) Guessing Wikidata. @daniel, please associate projects when creating tasks, otherwise the relevant people will not see the task.
[19:31:46] <wm-bot>	 Change on 12meta_wikimedia a page Wikidata was modified, changed by Matěj Suchánek link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=11654106 edit summary: [+48] bypass interwiki redirects, MyLanguage, tvars
[20:05:10] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 6Project-Creators: Create "time-bomb" tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75893#1139438 (10Ciencia_Al_Poder) There's also a #Technical-Debt tag that could be used (was {T2700} before)
[20:28:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198637 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[20:57:48] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 6Mobile-Web, 7Tracking: Wikidata should use onOutputPageParserOutput - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93534#1139491 (10Jdlrobson) 3NEW
[21:07:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Ebrahim: i18n: Fix badge position on RTL UI [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198652 
[21:10:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Ebrahim: "Percentage value will be converted to 100% by CSS RTL flipper which is needed and what should be done for RTL." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198652 (owner: 10Ebrahim)
[23:15:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: [WIP] Refactoring dispatchChanges.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198427 
[23:18:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Refactoring dispatchChanges.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198427 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)