[00:13:05] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1123946 (10Andyrom75) On https://it.wikivoyage.org we store the banner locally without using the one on wikidata because we add a description for each banner, so w...
[01:07:11] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1124069 (10Jdlrobson) Note this extension doesn't need to be installed everywhere to start with so we could trial this on english wikivoyage first.  Could the desc...
[01:44:02] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-JobQueue, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: delayedJobsEnabled is false for UpdateRepo*Job - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92931#1124096 (10hoo) 3NEW
[02:22:16] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1124114 (10Nicolas_Raoul) This description could be kept on Wikidata if there is a convenient UI to edit it from Wikivoyage. Of course, the description would be di...
[02:35:41] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-JobQueue, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: delayedJobsEnabled is false for UpdateRepo*Job - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92931#1124116 (10aaron) Is this just 38f3c9667465ea389fa2bb4bbf814dfaa2840d0c not being backported?
[02:45:45] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-JobQueue, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: delayedJobsEnabled is false for UpdateRepo*Job - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92931#1124118 (10hoo) >>! In T92931#1124116, @aaron wrote: > Is this just 38f3c9667465ea389fa2bb4bbf814dfaa2840d0c not being backported?  It's not backported... but...
[03:12:03] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-JobQueue, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: delayedJobsEnabled is false for UpdateRepo*Job - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92931#1124134 (10aaron) I think you need both (for it to merge cleanly).
[03:58:24] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 3Roadmap, 7Tracking: Track Wikidata entity usage on client pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49288#1124171 (10Eloquence)
[04:00:24] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 3Roadmap, 7Tracking: Allow accessing data from a Wikidata item not connected to the current page - arbitrary access (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49930#1124176 (10Eloquence)
[07:43:55] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Performance, and 2 others: Frontend JS should not re-render qualifiers and references upon load. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88425#1124326 (10adrianheine) 5Open>3Resolved
[07:45:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce fast RDF writer (0315 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/195185 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[07:56:14] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1124332 (10Qgil) GSoC and Outreach have opened their application period, and we need to decide whether this project idea is on or out for this round. If you want a...
[08:02:40] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1124333 (10Nicolas_Raoul) Qgil: I think there is matter for a GSoC task, and the benefits would be great for Wikivoyage but also as an experiment for all wikis.  I...
[08:14:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Split off CachingEntityStore from ApiEntityStore [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197281 
[08:15:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Introduce getHelpMessage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197282 
[08:18:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Split off CachingEntityStore from ApiEntityStore [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197281 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[08:22:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Split off CachingEntityStore from ApiEntityStore [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197281 
[08:47:18] <JeroenDeDauw>	 !nyan
[08:47:18] <wm-bot>	 ~=[,,_,,]:3
[08:49:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Introduce getHelpMessage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197282 
[08:52:04] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1124389 (10Andyrom75) Image description, more than image selection, are not objective data, so it should stay in the specific project. FYI description are managed...
[09:00:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Merge branches 'getHelp' and 'caching' into lessUsedEntities [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197289 
[09:00:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Remove wbUsedEntities [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197290 
[09:39:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "no gadgets use this, so no problem in that regard" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197290 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:54:16] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10DataValues, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Remove wrong "Gregorian" display from diff views - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92265#1124539 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) Am I getting this right? https://github.com/DataValues/Time/pull/49 is the only c...
[09:56:42] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration: Make mwext-Wikibase-qunit voting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92946#1124552 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW
[09:57:00] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration: Make mwext-Wikibase-qunit voting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92946#1124559 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW)
[09:57:02] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: fix the qunit tests for wikidata: mwext-Wikibase-qunit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74184#1124560 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW)
[09:57:32] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: fix the qunit tests for wikidata: mwext-Wikibase-qunit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74184#750168 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) Passing, all changes merged. Next step is to make the job voting: T92946
[09:57:42] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration: Make mwext-Wikibase-qunit voting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92946#1124552 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW)
[09:57:43] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: fix the qunit tests for wikidata: mwext-Wikibase-qunit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74184#1124564 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Tobi_WMDE_SW
[10:00:48] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant, and 3 others: qunit test broken without explicitly setting $wgResourceLoaderMaxQueryLength - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90453#1124578 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) For Wikidata this has been resolved so far by https://gerrit....
[10:01:42] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: can keep clicking "add" for new statements to "add" multiple at the same time - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75330#1124580 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Lydia_Pintscher This seems to be handled ok now. Closing as we'll rework all that...
[10:01:48] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property '0' of null - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92737#1124583 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 5Open>3Resolved
[10:02:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 2015-03-17T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197298 
[10:04:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New Wikidata Build - 2015-03-17T10:00:01+0000 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197298 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:04:40] <aude>	 woah, automatic builds :)
[10:05:14] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Comparing Diff objects fails on certain environments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92487#1124599 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) All relevant patches merged, so this can be closed?
[10:09:40] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: create gadget for showing padlock on protected item pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92384#1124608 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) Can somebody explain when we consider this task as done? @aude @lydia_pintscher
[10:13:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Remove unused EntityStore::get call [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197299 
[10:14:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Factor out common code in badgeselector [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197301 
[10:15:23] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Wrong time parsing of ISO dates with day 00 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87574#1124636 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW)
[10:16:58] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: No property suggestions on empty items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92748#1124638 (10aude) https://github.com/Wikidata-lib/PropertySuggester/pull/87 will fix this issue
[10:22:17] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Need-volunteer, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Time data-type inconsistently zero-pads year value (dates earlier than year 1000?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66084#1124642 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW)
[10:22:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: RdfWriter: add RDR support (Turtle only) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197302 
[10:22:45] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: create gadget for showing padlock on protected item pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92384#1124643 (10Lydia_Pintscher) When it is a gadget on Wikidata.
[10:25:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] RdfWriter: add RDR support (Turtle only) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197302 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:28:53] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: figure out and fix current state of time storage and display - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88437#1124665 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) All remaining changes here except https://github.com/DataValues/Time/pull/39 are trac...
[10:29:14] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration, 5Patch-For-Review: Make mwext-Wikibase-qunit voting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92946#1124670 (10hashar) 5Open>3Resolved a:3hashar I have deployed the Zuul configuration change, thus the job should be voting now.  Congratulations!
[10:30:02] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Tracking: Implement complete RDF mapping for entities (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50143#1124678 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW)
[10:30:02] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Upstream, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: N-Triples encoding for RDF output uses invalid escaping - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76854#1124676 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Tobi_WMDE_SW
[10:30:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [V: 04-1] "needs manual rebase." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190799 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87759) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:31:12] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Comparing Diff objects fails on certain environments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92487#1124684 (10thiemowmde) 5Open>3Resolved
[10:31:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Adrian Lang: labelview: inherit from EditableTemplatedWidget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189725 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:32:08] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: create gadget for showing padlock on protected item pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92384#1124685 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) Ok, thanks!
[10:32:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Fix uses statement in statementlistview doc [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197304 
[10:33:51] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: No language fallback applied for property labels on qualifiers and references in JS UI. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88275#1124693 (10adrianheine) We can indeed skip 3. I removed `wbUsedEntities` in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/197290/.
[10:39:05] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Citoid, 6Editing, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, and 2 others: Create a system to store and query links to books - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90852#1124714 (10Ladsgroup) Yes, but storing it in a database allows more flexible tasks like normalizing ISBN.
[10:41:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Addressed several FIXMEs in RDF related code (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/196712 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[10:42:25] <gh-wmde>	 [13Diff] 15thiemowmde created 06someDocs (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/hm6h
[10:42:25] <gh-wmde>	 13Diff/06someDocs 1459c6f48 15Thiemo Mättig: Fix doc tags in Differ classes
[10:42:47] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15adrianheine pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/hmiI
[10:42:47] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06master 143183e03 15Adrian Heine né Lang: Merge pull request #33 from DataValues/pad4Year...
[10:43:01] <hoo>	 https://wiki.php.net/rfc/scalar_type_hints_v5 <3
[10:43:24] <gh-wmde>	 [13Diff] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #42: Fix doc tags in Differ classes (06master...06someDocs) 02http://git.io/hmil
[10:44:06] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15adrianheine pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/hmio
[10:44:06] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06master 1402b1951 15Adrian Heine né Lang: Merge pull request #67 from wmde/pad...
[10:44:18] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Need-volunteer, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Time data-type inconsistently zero-pads year value (dates earlier than year 1000?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66084#1124721 (10adrianheine) Only https://github.com/wmde/Data...
[10:45:18] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15thiemowmde created 06someDocs (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/hmip
[10:45:18] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06someDocs 14d14569a 15Thiemo Mättig: Fix doc sections
[10:45:28] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: When I move a page in nowiki, the sitelink isn't updated automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92789#1124724 (10hoo) I have enabled more debug logging yesterday and will examine that today/ this week. A...
[10:46:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop @since tags from private stuff [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197306 
[10:46:30] <travis-ci>	 wmde/Diff#167 (someDocs - 59c6f48 : Thiemo Mättig): The build passed.
[10:46:30] <travis-ci>	 Change view : https://github.com/wmde/Diff/commit/59c6f4879c82
[10:46:30] <travis-ci>	 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wmde/Diff/builds/54699840
[10:48:18] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/someDocs/d14569a : Thiemo Mättig The build failed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/54700259
[10:50:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Add RDR serializer (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193547 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[10:57:31] <jzerebecki>	 Adrian_WMDE: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikidata-testextension-zend/111/console
[11:10:56] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 7Tracking: Bugs related to time datatype - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87764#1124788 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[11:10:58] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review: date in claim diff formatted as timestamp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72086#1124786 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Lydia_Pintscher
[11:11:34] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: white gap next to wikibase-sitelinkgroupview-heading-container in site link edit mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92431#1124789 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[11:14:37] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Remove binding to ValueValidators component from EntityValidator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92474#1124794 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[11:17:48] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: test.wikidata uses wikipedia apple touch icon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92948#1124804 (10aude) 3NEW
[11:18:52] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: test.wikidata uses wikipedia apple touch icon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92948#1124815 (10Sjoerddebruin) Could also use a black version of it, it uses a white background right?
[11:23:47] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Merge with conflicting sitelinks is not rejected - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87524#1124827 (10daniel) Hm, odd. I was suspecting someone just set `ignoreconflicts=sitelink` when performing the merge, but apparently, the merge in question was perfor...
[11:25:09] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: No javascript loaded on test.wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92949#1124831 (10aude) 3NEW
[11:30:04] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1124852 (10Qgil) Good! We have a second mentor. Please add the skills needed and some microtasks, and we will add this task to the featured project ideas.
[11:40:20] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 aude: regarding https://github.com/Wikidata-lib/PropertySuggester/pull/87
[11:40:38] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 should we do the rebase on the pull request?
[11:40:56] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 or do you want to make a new pull request out of your rebase-commit?
[11:41:04] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 fine with either
[11:47:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 aude, Tobi_WMDE_SW: should property suggestions appear on properties? :)
[11:50:24] <hoo>	 aude: ping
[11:50:39] <sjoerddebruin>	 Third ping. :D
[11:50:54] <hoo>	 :/ Is she not here?
[11:51:28] <sjoerddebruin>	 she? :O
[11:51:39] <hoo>	 aude
[11:51:48] <gh-wmde>	 [13Diff] 15JeroenDeDauw 04deleted 06someDocs at 1459c6f48: 02http://git.io/hmh5
[11:52:51] * sjoerddebruin didn't knew that
[11:53:22] <hoo>	 Oh... aude is Katie
[11:53:38] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #113 14d14569a: ![ints](https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/146040/6686726/97418388-cca4-11e4-9b2d-38dad95f9998.gif)... 02http://git.io/hmjZ
[11:53:45] <sjoerddebruin>	 Aude sounds so manly
[11:54:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Adrian Lang: Use EntityIdFormatter in MessageParameterFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192787 
[11:55:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: Use EntityIdFormatter in MessageParameterFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192787 
[12:01:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Adrian Lang: Improve isolation in ChangeOpsMergeTest and MergeChangeOpsFactoryTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191346 
[12:02:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Rebased." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191346 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:04:14] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06tests (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/hYf6
[12:04:14] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06tests 14e8ebb6d 15jeroendedauw: Fix broken tests
[12:04:20] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Adrian_WMDE: review my review https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/pull/113
[12:04:21] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: prevent creation of items having the same sitelinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44325#1124900 (10Lydia_Pintscher) What's the status here currently? Are a lot of duplicate items still being created this way?
[12:04:44] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #114: Fix broken tests (06master...06tests) 02http://git.io/hYf7
[12:05:09] <Adrian_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw trying to kill people
[12:06:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: property suggester should appear on properties, yes
[12:06:22] <Lydia_WMDE>	 jzerebecki: can we get rid of this one? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72550 tickets about creating tickets are evil :P
[12:06:53] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Error messages for Special:GoToLinkedPage when requested target doesn't exist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72127#1124902 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Normal>3Low
[12:06:56] <sjoerddebruin>	 Lydia_WMDE: Hm, weird. P31 is being used a lot but I don't see it on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1749
[12:07:05] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/tests/e8ebb6d : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/54708310
[12:07:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: it is keeping two separate tables for suggestions in items and properties
[12:07:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 the issue might be that there are not a lot of correlations yet
[12:08:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 because most properties have only one statement
[12:08:06] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, but there are a lot of properties with P31 on it.
[12:08:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 or 0
[12:08:13] <sjoerddebruin>	 hm
[12:08:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok then we should look into it
[12:08:38] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Need-volunteer: Error messages for Special:GoToLinkedPage when requested target doesn't exist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72127#727336 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[12:09:43] <gh-wmde>	 [13Diff] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06rel (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/hYUi
[12:09:43] <gh-wmde>	 13Diff/06rel 14f766d5d 15jeroendedauw: 2.0 release
[12:09:50] <gh-wmde>	 [13Diff] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #43: 2.0 release (06master...06rel) 02http://git.io/hYUy
[12:10:33] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: This evil Adrian_WMDE is throwing unfounded accusations of me trying to kill people around! 
[12:10:59] <sjoerddebruin>	 :/
[12:10:59] <Lydia_WMDE>	 unfounded? :P
[12:11:08] <JeroenDeDauw>	 :<@
[12:11:18] <JeroenDeDauw>	 !evil | Lydia_WMDE 
[12:11:19] <wm-bot>	 Lydia_WMDE:  is eeeeeevil >:(
[12:11:23] <JeroenDeDauw>	 derp
[12:11:25] <JeroenDeDauw>	 !evil Lydia_WMDE 
[12:11:25] <wm-bot>	 Lydia_WMDE is eeeeeevil >:(
[12:11:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: you went for fondue without me so no mercy! ;-)
[12:11:35] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: Sync Wikidata item descriptions with Wikipedia article first sentence when possible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92951#1124916 (10Qgil) 3NEW
[12:11:46] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: yeah, which means your brain still functions, be happy
[12:11:51] <sjoerddebruin>	 wut
[12:14:04] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: Sync Wikidata item descriptions with Wikipedia article first sentence when possible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92951#1124932 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher That is already being done by the community where it makes sense.
[12:14:36] <travis-ci>	 wmde/Diff#170 (rel - f766d5d : jeroendedauw): The build passed.
[12:14:36] <travis-ci>	 Change view : https://github.com/wmde/Diff/commit/f766d5d6a4f9
[12:14:36] <travis-ci>	 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wmde/Diff/builds/54708901
[12:17:26] <aude>	 pong :)
[12:18:47] <aude>	 sjoerddebruin: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aude#Pr.C3.A9nom_et_patronymes
[12:19:31] <hoo>	 aude: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92931 Needs to be resolved before the new branch is deployed
[12:19:37] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: usage tracking on repo for purging items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67718#1124940 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Lydia_Pintscher
[12:19:54] <hoo>	 If it doesn't, we might end up with jobs that die on Wikidata
[12:20:04] <aude>	 indeed
[12:20:25] <aude>	 i thought for wmf21, we cut the branch after the revert
[12:20:25] <hoo>	 I'd suggest to SWAT backport that today or tomorrow
[12:21:00] <aude>	 ok
[12:21:01] <hoo>	 yeah, but if we create jobs with the timestamp set (in the newer branch) and they end up in the old version, it will throw an exception
[12:21:15] <aude>	 i see
[12:21:23] <aude>	 do you want to prepare backports?
[12:21:44] <hoo>	 I'm traveling today... can try to prepare backports, but wont be able to be around during the SWAT
[12:22:15] <aude>	 i can be around for swat
[12:22:44] <hoo>	 Ok, so I'll postpone that to tomorrow where I'm going to have time
[12:22:46] <aude>	 (and thanks for being around last night... couldn't stay awake and forgot to set swat alarm)
[12:22:49] <aude>	 ok
[12:32:13] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1124953 (10NiharikaKohli)
[12:33:28] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#831838 (10NiharikaKohli) @NIcolas_Raoul I added you as a co-mentor. Please add the skills needed and possible microtasks so we can open this to students. Thank you!
[12:35:52] <hoo>	 You're welcome
[12:35:54] <hoo>	 :)
[12:35:54] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06pad4Year from 141a1bfca to 14882afb8: 02http://git.io/hYOA
[12:35:54] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06pad4Year 14882afb8 15Thiemo Mättig: Pad the year to 4 digits
[12:37:59] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: do not link deleted properties - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67533#1124959 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Lydia_Pintscher
[12:38:32] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: [statements-ui] Display red links for deleted Properties - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T47675#1124962 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher We did implement the opposite. Closing this one then.
[12:42:51] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: Sync Wikidata item descriptions with Wikipedia article first sentence when possible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92951#1124972 (10Qgil) I didn't know that. Is there a URL explaining how to do this for a project? I just want to help ca.wiki and others not to spend the time doing manual tasks t...
[12:42:59] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Need-volunteer: adding claims fails on private wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66544#1124973 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Normal>3Low
[12:43:59] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Need-volunteer: implement meaningful notion of size for items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41189#1124975 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Normal>3Low
[12:50:26] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10DataValues: More descriptive, coherent names for time precision constants - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92954#1125003 (10thiemowmde) 3NEW
[12:53:18] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10DataValues: More descriptive, coherent names for time precision constants - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92954#1125018 (10thiemowmde)
[12:53:19] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Non standard calandar model breaks JS UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89698#1125019 (10thiemowmde)
[12:53:20] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 7Tracking: Bugs related to time datatype - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87764#1125017 (10thiemowmde)
[12:53:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Use EntityIdFormatter in MessageParameterFormatter (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192787 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:54:17] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Need-volunteer: Tidy up Special:PagesWithProp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66950#1125023 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Normal>3Lowest
[12:55:03] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review: Basic support for units in quantity datatype - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65722#1125024 (10daniel)
[12:55:04] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: Implement (dumb) formatter for quantities with units based on URIs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92380#1125025 (10daniel)
[12:57:36] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: *poke* https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/194105/
[12:57:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Drop @since tags from private stuff [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197306 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[12:58:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: aude: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67441 can go?
[12:59:31] <Adrian_WMDE>	 dunno
[12:59:34] <Adrian_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: ?
[12:59:43] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7I18n: Use JSON i18n in Wikidata's library DataValues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65516#1125035 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Lydia_Pintscher
[12:59:50] <aude>	 don't know if it's consistent
[13:01:58] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Wikibase API allows adding impossible dates such as "31 September 2014" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85296#1125065 (10thiemowmde) I suggest to not implement code that checks for the described type of validity in the Wikibase' extension. This is som...
[13:02:27] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Wikibase API allows adding impossible dates such as "31 September 2014" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85296#1125069 (10thiemowmde)
[13:02:28] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review: User interface displays false birth and death dates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87312#1125068 (10thiemowmde)
[13:02:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Split off CachingEntityStore from ApiEntityStore (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197281 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:02:47] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review: User interface displays false birth and death dates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87312#988640 (10thiemowmde)
[13:02:48] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Wikibase API allows adding impossible dates such as "31 September 2014" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85296#943503 (10thiemowmde)
[13:02:59] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Wikibase API allows adding impossible dates such as "31 September 2014" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85296#943503 (10thiemowmde)
[13:03:00] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 7Tracking: Bugs related to time datatype - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87764#1125080 (10thiemowmde)
[13:08:48] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: On Android, cannot scroll past title when other languages open - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92763#1125111 (10cdrini)
[13:13:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 031] Introduce getHelpMessage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197282 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:14:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Make FormatterOptions nullable in lib classes [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197013 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:17:21] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10DataValues, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Remove wrong "Gregorian" display from diff views - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92265#1125131 (10thiemowmde) p:5Unbreak!>3Low @Tobi_WMDE_SW, yes, the line https://github.com/DataValues/Tim...
[13:19:30] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06precisionConsts from 147461905 to 144befc83: 02http://git.io/hYET
[13:19:30] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06precisionConsts 144befc83 15Thiemo Mättig: Unify names of time precision constants
[13:20:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce SpecialPageLinker (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197019 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:21:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Drop unused Summary::toString method [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191606 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:22:58] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06precisionConsts from 14f022634 to 1466d82e9: 02http://git.io/hYuZ
[13:22:58] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06precisionConsts 1466d82e9 15Thiemo Mättig: Unify names of time precision constants
[13:26:25] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10DataTypes, 7Need-volunteer: DataTypes should pass jshint - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63601#1125148 (10hashar) @adrianheine should we delete in Gerrit the mediawiki/extensions/DataTypes repository ?
[13:28:16] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikibase-DataModel-Serialization, 10Wikidata: Fix empty map serialization behaviour - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73349#1125150 (10JanZerebecki) Related problem in the mediawiki API output: T12887
[13:28:30] <wikibugs>	 10Wikibase-DataModel-Serialization, 10Wikidata: Empty JSON maps serialized as empty lists in XML dumps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91117#1125157 (10JanZerebecki) Related problem in the mediawiki API output: T12887
[13:29:44] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10DataValues, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Make [Formatter|Parser]Options nullable/optional everywhere - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92280#1125163 (10thiemowmde)
[13:37:13] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Interfaces] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/hYwi
[13:37:13] <gh-datavalues>	 13Interfaces/06master 14bedaf6d 15Thiemo Mättig: Update README.md
[13:37:38] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10DataValues, 5Patch-For-Review, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Make [Formatter|Parser]Options nullable/optional everywhere - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92280#1125176 (10thiemowmde)
[13:44:14] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Adrian_WMDE: https://floobits.com/JeroenDeDauw/WikibaseDataModel/file/README.md
[13:44:19] <JeroenDeDauw>	 You should be able to access this I think
[13:44:24] <JeroenDeDauw>	 If you make an account on this thing
[13:46:22] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Who is this evil anon user that joined? ;p
[13:47:16] <sjoerddebruin>	 !evil evil anon user
[13:47:16] <wm-bot>	 evil is eeeeeevil >:(
[13:47:32] <sjoerddebruin>	 damn spaces
[14:14:52] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06isoParser from 14871a16f to 14834a2a7: 02http://git.io/xEsT
[14:14:52] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06isoParser 14834a2a7 15Thiemo Mättig: Rename TimeParser to IsoTimestampParser
[14:14:56] <despens>	 dear colleagues, is there a way to make the wikibase repo interface use less screen space? It looks great for items with up to 10 claims on my 2560x1440 screen, but after that i just wish there was less padding on everything
[14:29:39] <hoo>	 aude: If you're around, please see #wikimedia-dev
[14:30:46] <gh-wmde>	 [13Diff] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06rel: 02http://git.io/hOel
[14:30:46] <gh-wmde>	 13Diff/06rel 14af95450 15Thiemo Mättig: Added Diff::equals
[14:38:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "> Abandon?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/101197 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:45:22] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Easy: EntityIdValues should be serialized as strings, not type/number structures. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56085#1125288 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW)
[14:46:07] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Find further breaking (API) changes that could be rolled out together with T56085 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92962#1125290 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW a:3Lydia_Pintscher
[14:48:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: Improve isolation in ChangeOpsMergeTest and MergeChangeOpsFactoryTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191346 
[14:49:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Improve isolation in ChangeOpsMergeTest and MergeChangeOpsFactoryTest (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191346 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[14:50:56] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Versioning in JSON output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92961#1125301 (10MC8)
[14:51:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Use EntityIdFormatter in MessageParameterFormatter (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192787 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[14:52:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Introduce SpecialPageLinker (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197019 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[14:54:56] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Versioning in JSON output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92961#1125308 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:01:42] <aude>	 hoo: back
[15:02:04] <hoo>	 So am I ... had trouble with my touchpad and needed to reboot :P
[15:02:09] <aude>	 :/
[15:02:11] <hoo>	 Did you see the backports I uploaded?
[15:02:20] <aude>	 yes, but they are not in swat yet?
[15:02:31] <aude>	 can probably add them now
[15:02:35] <hoo>	 No, I wanted to wait for your ok
[15:02:37] <hoo>	 ok :)
[15:02:44] <aude>	 ok
[15:02:52] <hoo>	 Please make sure that the version Wikidata is on gets deployed first
[15:03:19] <aude>	 ok
[15:03:26] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Datasets-General-or-Unknown: Allow custom dump types to be defined per-wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92964#1125325 (10daniel) 3NEW
[15:06:00] <aude>	 hoo: which order do they go?
[15:06:20] <aude>	 Made JobQueueFederated no longer need "checkDelay" for delaying or Made JobQueueFederated::supportsDelayedJobs() check all the partition queues first?
[15:07:44] <aude>	 hoo: i am not sure enough to do in swat now
[15:08:14] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Datasets-General-or-Unknown: Machine readable interface for dumps.wikimedia.org  - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92966#1125350 (10daniel) 3NEW
[15:09:03] <hoo>	 aude: Actually it doesn't matter
[15:09:27] <hoo>	 we only need the checkDelay one anyway... the other one I just backported because Aaron said I'd need it for them to merge cleanly
[15:09:28] <aude>	 hoo: in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/195953/ it got reverted
[15:09:32] <hoo>	 but apparently that's not true
[15:10:21] <aude>	 then https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/195969/
[15:10:45] <aude>	 which is a revert of revert
[15:11:07] <hoo>	 The change(s) I cherry-picked are different from the initial change
[15:11:13] <hoo>	 they no longer remove the mehtod
[15:11:15] <aude>	 so 1) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/195969/ (Made JobQueueFederated no longer need "checkDelay" for delaying)
[15:11:21] <aude>	 2) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/195967/
[15:12:26] <hoo>	 aude: Yeah, it doesn't really matter in the end, I think
[15:12:45] <aude>	 ok
[15:14:09] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Need-volunteer: add ability to clone references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67697#1125384 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:14:10] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: make it possible to easily clone an existing reference from the same item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76233#1125385 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:14:59] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10DataTypes, 7Need-volunteer, 5Patch-For-Review: DataTypes should pass jshint - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63601#1125392 (10hashar) It is out of CI now.
[15:17:02] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 7Verified: Format errors consistently in claim html - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64495#1125407 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:17:03] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Need-volunteer: Need html formatter for UnDeserializableValue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67441#1125405 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher
[15:18:50] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata: lua and parser tests for mismatching data type / value errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67788#1125411 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3Invalid a:3Lydia_Pintscher Closing for lack of response.
[15:21:35] <gh-wmde>	 [13Diff] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/hOR8
[15:21:35] <gh-wmde>	 13Diff/06master 14779bd92 15Jeroen De Dauw: Merge pull request #43 from wmde/rel...
[15:24:33] <gh-wmde>	 [13Diff] 15JeroenDeDauw tagged 062.0.0 at 06master: 02http://git.io/hO0A
[15:26:33] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw 04force-pushed 06tests from 14e8ebb6d to 142545d19: 02http://git.io/hOEh
[15:26:33] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06tests 142545d19 15jeroendedauw: Fix broken tests
[15:28:55] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: Sync Wikidata item descriptions with Wikipedia article first sentence when possible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92951#1125439 (10Lydia_Pintscher) Those are individual bot tasks. You can suggest them at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bot_requests Please be aware that Wikidata descript...
[15:29:31] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Versioning in JSON output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92961#1125440 (10daniel)
[15:29:56] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Datasets-General-or-Unknown: Allow custom dump types to be defined per-wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92964#1125445 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:29:57] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Datasets-General-or-Unknown: Machine readable interface for dumps.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92966#1125444 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:40:55] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06diffv (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/hOrE
[15:40:55] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06diffv 14d3da4b6 15jeroendedauw: Declare compatibility with Diff 2.x
[15:43:38] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API: Update Wikidata for ApiResult rewrite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073#1125482 (10Lydia_Pintscher) Hey Anomie :)  We went through this today.  1-4 Please go ahead. Those should not be causing any issues. If you run into issues or need help simply poke here or even easier...
[15:44:28] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #408: Declare compatibility with Diff 2.x (06master...06diffv) 02http://git.io/hOKL
[15:44:58] <travis-ci>	 wmde/Diff#175 (2.0.0 - 779bd92 : Jeroen De Dauw): The build passed.
[15:44:58] <travis-ci>	 Change view : https://github.com/wmde/Diff/compare/2.0.0
[15:44:58] <travis-ci>	 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wmde/Diff/builds/54734231
[15:48:46] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API: Replace ApiResult::setRawMode use in EntityDataSerializationService - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92970#1125497 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 3NEW
[15:50:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce SpecialPageLinker (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197019 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[15:52:24] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10DataValues: More descriptive, coherent names for time precision constants - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92954#1125515 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal
[15:56:12] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/spam/
[16:04:29] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 7Verified: Format errors consistently in claim html - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64495#1125579 (10daniel)
[16:04:30] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Need-volunteer: Need html formatter for UnDeserializableValue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67441#1125577 (10daniel) 5declined>3Resolved works for me
[16:09:16] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #114 142545d19: This test case does not make sense any more. The `references > snaks` array below is empty. How is that possible? 02http://git.io/hO7j
[16:10:38] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #114 142545d19: Same as above. How is it possible that a Reference with 1 snak is serialized as an empty array? 02http://git.io/hO55
[16:16:19] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Wikibase API allows adding impossible dates such as "31 September 2014" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85296#1125595 (10Jc3s5h) >>! In T85296#973355, @Addshore wrote: > Okay, so when entering "31 September 1949" through the Frontend in an edit and sa...
[16:16:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: Use our own RDF writer instead of EasyRdf. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/196663 
[16:17:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use our own RDF writer instead of EasyRdf. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/196663 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:23:05] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: No javascript loaded on test.wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92949#1125623 (10aude) this only happens if a page is served by mw1017 (where test.wikidata is being served).  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/196989/ is being tested there.  the issue shouldn't happen on wikidata but still...
[16:27:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS27) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce fast RDF writer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/195185 
[16:30:55] <hoo>	 aude: Sorry for my sudden leave, train arrived earlier than announced (still delayed, though)...everything fine?
[16:33:00] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/diffv/d3da4b6 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/54736745
[16:33:07] <aude>	 hoo: all good
[16:35:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Run UpdateRepo jobs on time() + 2, not time() + 1 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197350 
[16:35:37] <hoo>	 aude: ^ I think we should do that also
[16:36:01] <hoo>	 Would be nice if you could have a look... in case we decide to do backports again, I'd like it to be included
[16:36:07] <hoo>	 but not important enough for an own backport, IMO
[16:36:15] <aude>	 ok
[16:40:18] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata: investigate and break down into specific tasks for converting Wikibase* to use new extension registration mechanism - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92980#1125664 (10aude) 3NEW
[16:41:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Run UpdateRepo jobs on time() + 2, not time() + 1 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197350 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92789) 
[16:41:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Run UpdateRepo jobs on time() + 2, not time() + 1 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197350 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92789) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[16:41:38] <aude>	 there
[16:42:01] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-JobQueue, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: delayedJobsEnabled is false for UpdateRepo*Job - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92931#1125674 (10hoo) 5Open>3Resolved a:3hoo I submitted the backports for both wmf20 and wmf21 for today's early SWAT and they got deployed.
[16:42:43] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review: When I move a page in nowiki, the sitelink isn't updated automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92789#1125677 (10hoo) See also https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197350 ... but that is n...
[16:43:04] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API: Update Wikidata for ApiResult rewrite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073#1125678 (10Anomie) First question: which repo(s) in Gerrit should I check out to be looking at and patching the right things? I'd prefer not to have to figure out github, if possible.
[16:44:08] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review: UpdateRepo doesn't always propagate changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92789#1125679 (10hoo)
[16:44:28] <hoo>	 aude: Thanks :)
[16:44:55] <hoo>	 I hope we can get stuff to be reliable fast
[16:45:00] <aude>	 yeah
[16:45:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Daniel Kinzler: Use our own RDF writer instead of EasyRdf. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/196663 
[16:48:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use our own RDF writer instead of EasyRdf. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/196663 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:53:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Run UpdateRepo jobs on time() + 2, not time() + 1 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197350 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92789) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[16:56:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Run UpdateRepo jobs on time() + 2, not time() + 1 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197350 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92789) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[16:56:53] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Easy, 7I18n: wikibase-setlabeldescriptionaliases-introfull needs GENDER support and qqq documentation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90431#1125703 (10Kenrick95) Just a guess, from the codes at SpecialSetLabelDescriptionAliases.php  ``` $intro =...
[16:59:40] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review: test.wikidata uses wikipedia apple touch icon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92948#1125711 (10aude) @sjoerddebruin if you want to make one, sure.  not worth the effort in my opinion.
[17:15:31] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API: Update Wikidata for ApiResult rewrite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073#1125766 (10Lydia_Pintscher) You want wikibase.git on Wikimedia gerrit. We can take care of the property suggester on github.
[17:16:25] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BotMultichill <- killing claimless items, seem to be quite a few of them
[17:16:50] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, I couldn't do that easy with categories.
[17:17:53] <multichill>	 The bot is doing a recursive run
[17:18:01] <multichill>	 I hope it doesn't fuck up too bad ;-)
[17:18:37] <multichill>	 stuff like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2536006 is quite difficult
[17:19:16] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, and seasons
[17:20:06] <multichill>	 I'll leave that up to one of our tv maniacs to sort out
[17:21:15] <multichill>	 I'm looping over https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Televisieprogramma_naar_land btw
[17:21:22] <multichill>	 So I might catch some characters too
[17:30:06] <multichill>	 hi basvb and SPF|Cloud
[17:30:11] <multichill>	 Dutch invasion? :-)
[17:37:15] <basvb>	 hi
[17:37:17] <basvb>	 jep
[17:37:23] <basvb>	 I thought time to start with some wikidata
[17:45:43] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: After this task, maybe you can generate a list with false positives with https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sjabloon:Infobox_televisieseizoen
[17:46:34] <multichill>	 Hmm, that's probably easier said than done
[17:47:47] <sjoerddebruin>	 Wel... https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q18070247&diff=204652949&oldid=158255902
[17:48:01] <sjoerddebruin>	 (annoying categorization)
[17:48:27] <basvb>	 how's a false positive defined Sjoerd
[17:48:51] <basvb>	 as in not an instance of television program?
[17:49:01] <sjoerddebruin>	 It's a season.
[17:49:26] <multichill>	 I agree that season would be better
[17:49:38] <basvb>	 so an instance of television program and with that template = false positive
[17:49:52] <sjoerddebruin>	 I'm curious why I didn't added television season myself.
[17:50:01] <basvb>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3464665
[17:50:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, I think i was just leazy then.
[17:50:40] <basvb>	 can't you simply add that property based on the template/cat usage and look for the ones in both
[17:51:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] ":D" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197134 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[17:53:02] <multichill>	 basvb: https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclaims_nlwiki.txt <- working on this one
[17:53:44] <basvb>	 what does it do multichill? Or where is it stated what it does
[17:53:45] <SPF|Cloud>	 18:30:14 <multichill> Dutch invasion? :-) <- yes :)
[17:54:11] <SPF|Cloud>	 And I accidentally pressed the "disconnect" button xD
[17:55:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Smalyshev: Use PropertyDataTypeLookup to look for properties [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197134 
[17:56:09] <multichill>	 basvb: It's a list of articles that are connected to an item without claims (links to other items)
[17:56:24] <basvb>	 aah ok
[17:56:28] <basvb>	 quite a lot 
[17:57:47] <multichill>	 Trying to spot patterns and than I fire up a bot
[17:58:30] <sjoerddebruin>	 basvb: Have you saw this? https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_sjabloon:Infobox_politicus_Nederland#Parlement_.26_Politiek_naar_Wikidata
[17:58:37] <basvb>	 seen
[17:58:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use PropertyDataTypeLookup to look for properties [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197134 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[17:59:08] <sjoerddebruin>	 Would like clear consensus first, but people seems not to respond. :(
[17:59:35] <basvb>	 no reaction= consensus :p
[17:59:48] <Caliburn>	 ^
[17:59:50] <Caliburn>	 :p
[18:00:13] <basvb>	 I'm trying the season quary now
[18:00:19] <basvb>	 query
[18:00:23] <basvb>	 but time to eat first
[18:00:28] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API: Update Wikidata for ApiResult rewrite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073#1125997 (10Anomie)
[18:00:38] * multichill +1-ed it
[18:00:52] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: It seems like most characters have a description...
[18:01:05] <multichill>	 Sorry?
[18:01:19] <basvb>	 sjoerddebruin: only 170 seasons using that template
[18:01:32] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2157917&diff=prev&oldid=204662499
[18:01:44] <sjoerddebruin>	 As you can see, there is already a Dutch description. Easy to track those.
[18:02:09] <multichill>	 ah, nice
[18:03:03] <basvb>	 http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/2614 multichil do you have some wikidata query examples? So that I can use those as inspiration
[18:03:33] <sjoerddebruin>	 basvb: I also see some lists. Those need "Wikimedia list"...
[18:04:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Introduce SpecialPageLinker (035 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197019 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[18:04:38] <basvb>	 can't you simply do that based on pages starting with "Lijst" ?
[18:05:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, but you need to exclude them from your task
[18:05:25] <multichill>	 Lists again?
[18:05:32] <multichill>	 Dammit, I thought I tagged all of those
[18:05:56] <sjoerddebruin>	 They are tagged, but they don't need to be changed to "television season"
[18:06:09] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: This is annoying. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Televisieserie_gebaseerd_op_een_radioprogramma
[18:06:33] <multichill>	 nnooooo,....
[18:06:42] <multichill>	 basvb: Check out my queries directory, it's open
[18:07:15] <multichill>	 basvb: It's /home/multichill/queries/wikidata on toollabs
[18:07:37] <basvb>	 Ok 'll look at it after dinner, did it with autolist now
[18:08:15] <multichill>	 Fired up recursive https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Chemische_reactie https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q36534
[18:08:18] <multichill>	 I have to eat too
[18:08:21] <basvb>	 althought it went wrong
[18:10:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "var_dump o_O" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191346 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[18:10:33] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: Yeeeeeeh https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republica_(radioprogramma)
[18:10:55] <sjoerddebruin>	 That categorization is horrible
[18:11:07] <multichill>	 oh boy
[18:13:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 Why did they add genres to the programs, those genres are a subcategory of television program...  https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Geschiedenisprogramma
[18:13:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Use EntityIdFormatter in MessageParameterFormatter (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192787 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[18:16:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use EntityIdFormatter in MessageParameterFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192787 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[18:18:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "Would be OK to merge, I have a suggestion though." (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197093 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[18:19:00] <sjoerddebruin>	 -_- https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Witse&diff=40599853&oldid=40578937
[18:19:15] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE: do we have a task for the schema change for usage tracking?
[18:19:27] * aude reminded that test.wikipedia would also need it
[18:20:34] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: you mean for *applying* the schema change? no, I don't think we do.
[18:21:19] <aude>	 suppose i make one then
[18:21:41] <aude>	 me totally forgot that test.wikipedia had arbitrary access and usage tracking already
[18:24:15] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API: Replace ApiResult::setRawMode use in EntityDataSerializationService - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92970#1126031 (10Anomie) You've also got calls to getIsRawMode() in ResultBuilder and GetEntities, and some calls to setRawMode() in some unit tests.
[18:30:20] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Wikibase API allows adding impossible dates such as "31 September 2014" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85296#1126033 (10Ricordisamoa) >>! In T85296#1125595, @Jc3s5h wrote: > I find it alarming that 31 September was corrected to 1 October.  That's how...
[18:33:29] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Wikibase API allows adding impossible dates such as "31 September 2014" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85296#1126037 (10Smalyshev) Even if we allow any string as date, we still have to decide what to do with such data on export. Most external tools c...
[18:33:38] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: I just love it. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goedemorgen_Nederland
[18:39:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Anomie: Update ApiResult handling for mediawiki/core change I7b37295e [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197383 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073) 
[18:39:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Anomie: "I'm hoping this works, I couldn't figure out how to run your unit tests locally." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197383 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073) (owner: 10Anomie)
[18:44:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Anomie: "So far so good. Someone should also run the tests in combination with I7b37295e8862b188d1f3b0cd07f66ac34629678f to make sure they pass the" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197383 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073) (owner: 10Anomie)
[18:49:51] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 7Schema-change: Apply schema change to add render_key field to wbc_entity_usage table - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92988#1126042 (10aude) 3NEW
[18:50:14] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 7Schema-change, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Add render_key field to wbc_entity_usage to enable per-language usage tracking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92288#1105253 (10aude)
[18:50:15] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 7Schema-change: Apply schema change to add render_key field to wbc_entity_usage table - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92988#1126051 (10aude)
[18:50:40] <nikki>	 is there a recommended way to handle cases where some wikipedias consider something a single topic and others consider it two yet?
[18:50:42] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: Add render_key field to wbc_entity_usage to enable per-language usage tracking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92288#1105253 (10aude)
[19:30:25] <wikibugs>	 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: Figure out how to represent non-Gregorian dates in RDF export - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92996#1126170 (10Smalyshev) 3NEW a:3Smalyshev
[20:13:00] <hoo|busy>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tools/External_tools
[20:31:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Performance improvements for RdfWriter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197407 
[20:52:45] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06diffv at 14d3da4b6: 02http://git.io/hGZl
[20:52:49] <multichill>	 nikki: That's always a bit problematic. We call it the Bonnie and Clyde problem
[20:53:55] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: 52542 -> 51261. Another thousand :-)
[21:04:18] <dennyvrandecic>	 my chrome tab keeps crashing when i go to some wikidata pages, e.g. Q76
[21:04:21] <dennyvrandecic>	 known issue?
[21:05:23] <harej>	 I get that a lot too.
[21:05:38] <harej>	 Particularly with Q76.
[21:05:55] <dennyvrandecic>	 nice way to promote firefox :)
[21:07:20] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Wikibase API allows adding impossible dates such as "31 September 2014" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85296#1126556 (10Jc3s5h) I tested JavaScript:  document.write(new Date( 1900, 1, 29 ).toDateString())  Which gave as a result  Thu Mar 01 1900  So...
[21:10:20] <Lydia_WMDE>	 dennyvrandecic: that ball is on your side ;-) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88478
[21:13:05] <dennyvrandecic>	 (facepalm) unicode is hard
[21:13:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ack
[21:29:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: I think a lot of false positives tbh
[21:30:52] <multichill>	 Do you think so? Let's just blame Amir1. Oh hi Amir ;-)
[21:31:20] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, like this one: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q18012484&curid=19547548&diff=204679824&oldid=204679822
[21:31:29] <Amir1>	 hi multichill what's up?
[21:31:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 (idk what a saga is tbh)
[21:31:51] <multichill>	 tbh?
[21:31:56] <sjoerddebruin>	 to be honest
[21:32:35] <Amir1>	 sjoerddebruin, multichill: I'm working on Kian so I can find probable false positives 
[21:32:38] <multichill>	 Amir1: Nothing much, just hit some false postives while hunting for claimless items
[21:32:45] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: Do you use Mac? There is a known issue with Chrome on Mac, just wanted to check if you hit it also
[21:32:51] <Amir1>	 ebraminio: chetory
[21:32:52] <multichill>	 claimit needs a skip options
[21:33:04] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: i do
[21:33:11] <ebraminio>	 Amir1: mamnoon!
[21:33:12] <multichill>	 *option. So when I add P31, it can skip items with subclass
[21:33:33] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: yeah, on my linux desktop it doesn't do the snap
[21:33:34] <Amir1>	 multichill: hmm, have you filed a task in phabricator?
[21:33:34] <sjoerddebruin>	 Amir1: Just 167 people left without gender. Wikidata game won't work again. :(
[21:33:44] <multichill>	 Nah, just realized that
[21:33:48] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: Can you check if it occurs on https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html also
[21:34:08] <Amir1>	 sjoerddebruin: gender classification is something that my bot should do ;)
[21:34:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, but I still don't like bots...
[21:34:34] <Amir1>	 this kind of tedious tasks should be done by bots
[21:34:37] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: on linux or mac?
[21:34:41] <Amir1>	 sjoerddebruin: even with AI?
[21:34:44] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: On Mac
[21:35:10] <sjoerddebruin>	 AI is maybe better, but I still encounter too much fucked up shit every day.
[21:35:15] <Amir1>	 sjoerddebruin: my bot is at first levels of learning and developing but soon he can do great things
[21:35:35] <dennyvrandecic>	 Amir1: what does KIAN mean?
[21:35:39] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: d/ling
[21:35:55] <Amir1>	 dennyvrandecic: hey denny :) Kian in Persian means glory
[21:36:00] <Amir1>	 I have other reasons too
[21:36:01] <dennyvrandecic>	 :) nice
[21:36:19] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: happened with Canary version also?
[21:36:28] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: installing
[21:36:35] <multichill>	 Amir1: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93017
[21:36:44] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: Oh, ok
[21:36:55] <sjoerddebruin>	 Amir1: But I'm the kind of person that gets distracted by every task I do, can't stop adding statements. :P
[21:37:03] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: canary seems fine
[21:37:10] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: thx!
[21:37:53] <basvb>	 Amir1: how are you learning the bot with AI?
[21:37:58] <Amir1>	 sjoerddebruin: I'm like you
[21:38:19] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: Every page that contains a special character will broke on current stable and beta versions of Chrome and ... they are refusing fixing
[21:38:21] <Amir1>	 basvb: using ANN
[21:38:24] <sjoerddebruin>	 I come to add a birth date, but I end up adding the family tree etc.
[21:38:34] <Amir1>	 I should work on the learning curve
[21:38:37] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: :P
[21:38:46] <sjoerddebruin>	 The result is always four times the number of bytes it was.
[21:38:50] <basvb>	 adaptive neural net?
[21:39:09] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: well, at least the release cycles are not too long, but still, :P
[21:39:09] <basvb>	 artificial neural net
[21:39:45] <basvb>	 but how are you generating truth for it?
[21:39:58] <dennyvrandecic>	 Amir1: do you learn on the Wikidata structure only, or also on the associated Wikipedia text?
[21:40:32] <Amir1>	 dennyvrandecic: I use both
[21:40:44] <dennyvrandecic>	 Amir1: nice - all languages?
[21:40:49] <Amir1>	 but from Wikipedia I usually quantify it 
[21:40:59] <dennyvrandecic>	 quantify?
[21:41:11] <basvb>	 or rephrased: do you need more data, or does still learning mean that it's running with data available
[21:41:34] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: Tthanks for you info and test, I will poke they again about this :)
[21:41:37] <Amir1>	 dennyvrandecic: no but I wrote in a way so I can run it on any language I want by one command
[21:41:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 Amir1: How hard is it for your bot to guess that this isn't a human: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gijs_Van_Vaerenbergh
[21:41:59] <Amir1>	 basvb: the training set is good enough 
[21:42:01] <sjoerddebruin>	 basvb: A tricky one. ^
[21:42:11] <Amir1>	 but I need to advance the bot to understand better
[21:42:30] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: for what it's worth, I added issue 468065 on the chromium issue tracker
[21:42:31] <basvb>	 based on wikitext using naive bayes, bag of words etc doesn't hold good results?
[21:42:59] <multichill>	 nn
[21:43:00] <Amir1>	 basvb: yes, I don't use wikitext directly
[21:43:17] <Amir1>	 e.g. for classifying humans I use categories 
[21:43:20] <basvb>	 although I guess with those things getting to 100% wont really happen, it is however still pretty solid for classifying spam
[21:43:38] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: Great. I can see it :)
[21:44:01] <Amir1>	 sjoerddebruin: It's easy for my bot
[21:44:12] <sjoerddebruin>	 Why?
[21:44:14] <Amir1>	 it gives a very high penalty on having Duo category 
[21:44:23] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, I've only added that one in january.
[21:44:34] <sjoerddebruin>	 Without it, it would fail.
[21:44:53] <sjoerddebruin>	 As you can see, I'm a failure. :P https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q19574367&action=history
[21:44:58] <a930913>	 Amir1: How do you know the specifics of an ANN?
[21:45:31] <basvb>	 a930913: you generally don't I believe
[21:45:36] <Amir1>	 exactly what specifications? lambda? or the architecture?
[21:45:44] <a930913>	 21:44 <Amir1> it gives a very high penalty on having Duo category
[21:46:03] <Amir1>	 oh that
[21:46:37] <Amir1>	 the algorithm is a little bit complicated but Category:Duo is a group D category
[21:46:55] <a930913>	 Hmm, I need to take a look at your code sometime :p
[21:47:03] <sjoerddebruin>	 I hope Danceact is also now, Amir1.
[21:47:08] <Amir1>	 github.com/Ladsgroup/Kian
[21:47:20] <a930913>	 Can someone help me find my way around the JSON dump?
[21:47:26] <sjoerddebruin>	 I've looked in the category btw, and it seems a mess, Mix of humans and groups.
[21:48:20] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: just for making sure the crash is what I thing, does Chrome crash on http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q863679 also?
[21:48:42] <dennyvrandecic>	 a930913: maybe, try asking the question :)
[21:48:43] <Amir1>	 sjoerddebruin: interesting, the bot can understand (If I set the lambda correctly) that having these categories won't be enough 
[21:49:39] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: no, that seems to work
[21:50:09] <a930913>	 dennyvrandecic: So take Q42. http://tools.wmflabs.org/cluestuff/wdt/item.txt I can see it has P31, but I can't seem to find that P31 of Q42 is Q5.
[21:50:35] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: hmm, what if you open this address "view-source:http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q76" on Chrome
[21:51:41] <dennyvrandecic>	 a930913: it says in that P31-object that there is a datavalue with a entit-type item and a numeric-id 5
[21:51:46] <dennyvrandecic>	 which means Q5
[21:52:30] <a930913>	 dennyvrandecic: What numeric id 5?
[21:53:16] <a930913>	 dennyvrandecic: Oh, derp.
[21:53:31] <a930913>	 The json formatter website I was using is silly.
[21:53:56] <a930913>	 And was giving me old data.
[21:54:01] <a930913>	 dennyvrandecic: Thanks.
[22:00:25] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: view-source also snaps
[22:00:32] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: and even faster
[22:01:35] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: Thank you, last question, what is version of your stable Chrome that this crashes occurs in?
[22:02:34] <dennyvrandecic>	 41.0.2272.89 official build
[22:03:04] <dennyvrandecic>	 a930913: yw
[22:03:26] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: thank you :)
[22:03:37] <dennyvrandecic>	 ebraminio: yw, and thank you!
[22:08:02] <ebraminio>	 dennyvrandecic: cc
[22:08:12] <ebraminio>	 cc'd related people to it :)
[22:08:35] <dennyvrandecic>	 saw it
[22:08:45] <dennyvrandecic>	 thx
[22:34:47] <Danny_B>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P373&diff=0&oldid=204539641 why are protocol relative links not used?
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