[08:22:59] aude: yay :) [08:40:16] 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review, 3ยง Wikidata-Sprint-2015-03-11: No property suggestions on empty items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92748#1119598 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [08:48:24] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: allow editing of more languages in the in other languages box than the ones defined via babel boxes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92759#1119605 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 3NEW [09:04:56] hi out there; i'm just starting playing with wikibase; is there a way to create randomized IDs instead of counting up ? [09:06:43] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: allow editing of more languages in the in other languages box than the ones defined via babel boxes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92759#1119605 (10Lydia_Pintscher) One possible solution: The use-case of "adding information for languages not in my ba... [09:07:29] toka: no [09:09:32] any pointer in which part of the code they are generated ? [09:47:05] toka: it's just sequential... something in repo/includes/store [09:48:51] aude: found it in repo/includes/store/sql/SqlIdGenerator.php [09:49:28] yeah, that's it [09:49:59] suppose the ids could be different (e.g. by importing an item) but then the software has to know not to try to assign the id again [09:51:38] i just want to generate random ids, check for duplicate would be nice but not necessary in the beginning [09:51:54] ok [10:01:32] seen this ? http://ostatic.com/blog/apache-tajo-update-offers-open-relational-big-data-warehousing-solution [10:05:04] @aude: thanks, it works now [10:06:03] the benefit of random ids would be easy pull of data from different wikibases ... [10:09:45] What I try to understand is how it compares [15:29:33] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Tracking: On Android, cannot scroll past title when other languages open - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92763#1119754 (10cdrini) 3NEW [16:02:14] sjoerddebruin: Ik zie dat http://tools.wmflabs.org/dexbot/kian_res_nl.txt verwerkt is :-) [16:02:26] Ja, de helft heeft intussen een gender. [16:02:49] Zal het noclaims lijstje eens updaten [16:03:03] En ook volgens mij een beroep. Er zitten ook veel acteurs tussen, maar die kan ik niet verwerken want autolist krijgt dan een time-out op een of andere manier. [16:03:03] * multichill is benieuwd of dat weer 43 minuten gaat duren [16:03:48] Zou dat niet automatisch kunnen aan de hand van de infobox? [16:04:24] Kan, ik had eerst de tv, film en porno-acteurs gedaan en wou nu de hoofdcat pakken... [16:05:10] Iig zijn er nog 138,188 items zonder P31 of P279 [16:05:33] Maar dat is voornamelijk sport. [16:08:15] hmm, ok [16:53:10] sjoerddebruin: Items without claims from to 53318 :-( [17:11:00] Also some templates I see. [17:22:41] 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1119893 (10Danapit) The whole idea sounds good to me. As a WV user and frequent page banenner editor, I have some concerns: 1. I agree we need to maintain the poss... [17:25:21] Complete list on https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclaims_nlwiki.txt [17:39:01] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: On Android, cannot scroll past title when other languages open - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92763#1119926 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [17:48:25] multichill: Marking 250 templates now with the proper P31. [17:52:17] yah! [17:52:59] We need automatic tasks for stuff like this.... :/ [17:58:22] 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1119957 (10Sumit) > Searching for an image is usually not the whole story. The image needs usually quite a bit of editting, including resizing (cropping) to 7:1 ra... [18:07:44] At a Hackathon this weekend a new interesting tool was created. It can make a backwards lookup of in which Swedish municipality a coordinate is in (if any). Now, WDQ tells me there are around 17000 objects with coords, tagged with P17:Q34 but with no P131. Would that be a good idea for a bot? [18:09:29] It could be, but how to handle objects that only existed long time ago? [18:11:57] Good question. So what does P131 mean? That the coordinate is within it's borders? [18:12:16] Yep. [18:13:50] So one should check if there are any qualifiers on the P625 claim. If still current, it would be safe but if end date has passed, it should be skipped [18:14:52] Don't think there are many with qualifiers. [18:15:54] Probably true. But how would one otherwise know f the object only existed there a long time ago? [18:17:43] By adding the right statements... [18:18:02] There is no clear use for this sadly. :( [18:18:26] Sure, but what statements could indicate that the obect has moved? [18:19:22] I see P793 > Q331483, but some could also use P576... [18:21:42] Are you implying that the P17:Q34 tag would be wrong also for those statements? [18:22:39] For some items, it could. [18:23:05] Didn't some parts of Germany go to other countries after WW2? [18:24:23] I'll make it easy for me and skip all objects that has P793 or P576. It only lost me 30 objects [18:25:03] multichill: Do you have any ideas? ^ [18:54:17] Hi everyone, is there any way for me to make up a list of Wikidata items that 1) have no English label and 2) are linked to a Chinese Wikipedia article? [19:13:04] hm, I thought the wikidata query thing would be able to do it, but http://wdq.wmflabs.org/api_documentation.html doesn't seem to mention anything about labels [19:14:54] Yeah, I looked at that, there is a thing for "label contains" and label does not contain" on the interface, but I don't know if it will work for this purpose [19:16:57] You can only search for existing labels... :( [19:19:38] well, I was going to add some labels for items that are currently only in Chinese, but I guess not. That might be a search function to think about adding in the future [19:23:30] I think the next query service would handle it better. [20:07:30] Lydia_WMDE: aude JeroenDeDauw http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/this-sage-of-a-broken-german-door-that-became-a-wall-of-meme [20:15:07] 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 10Possible-Tech-Projects: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1120124 (10Danapit) Yes. The banners are specifically created for each article, then stored within this category in commons and immidiatelly used. That means that... [20:17:56] sjoerddebruin / Ainali : Not sure. Propose it on Wikidata and do a test to see if it works out [20:18:20] danaman5: You can access the database on toollabs and get this information [20:19:27] multichill: Which tool in particular on toollabs? I have tried some, and they either don't have the functionality or time out without giving me results [20:20:06] No tool, you need to access the database for tha [20:20:08] *t [20:25:09] I don't understand, when I go there I see a long list of tools, which one do I pick? [20:42:08] (03PS16) 10Daniel Kinzler: Fast RDF emitter [WIP] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/195185 [20:45:24] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Fast RDF emitter [WIP] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/195185 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [20:50:20] sjoerddebruin: Any idea what kind of claim to add to articles like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19117975 and the like? [20:50:24] We have loads of those [20:50:47] Maybe just https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18340514 ? [20:51:16] Oh, that's a horrible beast :P [20:52:43] Screw this, I'm just adding part of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q276 [20:54:28] On that subject, should there be objects for the semifinals and the final too? [20:55:44] I did so for the Swedish qualifications https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16853858 [20:56:37] I don't give a rats ass about the Eurovision crap, just want to get them off https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclaims_nlwiki.txt ;-) [20:59:51] Yeah, better not get too excited, we are gonna sweep it this time ;-) [21:07:12] sjoerddebruin: Maybe we should organize so sort of noclaim drive? [21:10:01] How do you mean? [21:13:13] Work on reducing the number of claimless items with a bunch of people [21:13:47] With all the tasks I do, it always feels like i'm the only one. [21:14:12] (03PS17) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce fast RDF writer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/195185 [21:16:51] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introduce fast RDF writer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/195185 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [21:16:56] nn, morgen vroeg dag [21:17:07] Ik moet nog wat Twitter volgen... [21:59:03] (03PS18) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce fast RDF writer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/195185 [22:02:18] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introduce fast RDF writer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/195185 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [22:41:32] (03PS19) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce fast RDF writer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/195185 [22:44:05] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introduce fast RDF writer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/195185 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [23:17:41] alright, maybe someone more knowledgeable than me knows: when i move a page in enwiki, the sitelink is changed immediately and automatically in wikidata [23:17:51] but when i do it in nowiki, i have to change the sitelink manually. why? [23:20:21] Jhs: That shouldn't happen [23:20:27] can you give me an example? [23:20:57] hoo, alright, give me a couple of minutes [23:21:35] here i moved the page in enwiki, and the change appeared practically instantly: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q19594854&action=history [23:21:50] i'll find a page to move in nowiki [23:24:56] hoo, alright, just moved https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12005943 now from [[no:The Switch]] to [[no:The Switch (band)]] [23:25:26] Jhs: Is your SUL linked to no? [23:25:48] sjoerddebruin, of course :) [23:28:06] (sidenote: it was pretty amazing that the very first page I found on Special:Random needed moving) [23:32:27] Jhs: There's nothing I can do for you here, sorry [23:32:46] I added more debug logging to update repo in early March, but that's not yet deployed [23:33:07] hoo, np. should i file it in phabricator? [23:33:11] Also we still don't have logs of php fatals, so I'm clueless [23:33:16] you can, if you want [23:33:22] ok, will do [23:33:25] what project should i use? [23:33:40] Maybe there is one already, I should have filed it, but probably didn't [23:33:50] just add wikidata, I'll do the rest [23:34:52] coolio :) [23:45:51] 10Wikidata: When I move a page in nowiki, the sitelink isn't updated automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92789#1120356 (10jhsoby) 3NEW [23:46:06] hoo, ^ :) [23:46:30] :) [23:51:31] 10Wikidata: When I move a page in nowiki, the sitelink isn't updated automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92789#1120364 (10jhsoby) Just to note: This does not only happen to me, but to all moves in nowiki, as examplified by [[ https://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tatjana_Burina&action=history...